"Age Old Problem"

[Laemmle]

Over the many years of Studebaker ownership (V-8's) I have found that when they get hot after a good run (summer months) they are a b-eech to re-start...especially Avanti models....all parts are normally 100% and function fine.. I have heard other Avanti owners complain about the same malady.[?]

[Roscomacaw]

In the case of Avantis, I have to wonder if when starters got replaced along the way, a standard V8 starter wasn't subbed for the higher torque Avanti starter.
Of course, as Avantis go, I can't speak from experience. I've never owned one and never endeavored to.

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

[Roscomacaw]

In the case of Avantis, I have to wonder if when starters got replaced along the way, a standard V8 starter wasn't subbed for the higher torque Avanti starter.
Of course, as Avantis go, I can't speak from experience. I've never owned one and never endeavored to.

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

[N8N]

Could also very well be fuel boiling out of the carb; much more common today than it used to be.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight

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[N8N]

Could also very well be fuel boiling out of the carb; much more common today than it used to be.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight

http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

[Laemmle]

Starter is 100%...no heat soak....but I would tend to agree with Nate..this has been a problem for years...with all brands of fuel.... as soon as the seasons change and the temps moderate to fall then early winter.........no problem..

[Laemmle]

Starter is 100%...no heat soak....but I would tend to agree with Nate..this has been a problem for years...with all brands of fuel.... as soon as the seasons change and the temps moderate to fall then early winter.........no problem..

[wagone]

Hey Laemmie, Are you talking R1s or R2s or both? And do you give them a "little" gas as you are cranking them up? Works EVERY time with my R2. Never had a problem with mine on a hot start. But then mine being an R2 it does NOT have air and so it does not get above 180 degrees on the gauge--ever, not in my ownership that is (160 degree thermostat).

wagone and the R2 Avanti

[wagone]

Hey Laemmie, Are you talking R1s or R2s or both? And do you give them a "little" gas as you are cranking them up? Works EVERY time with my R2. Never had a problem with mine on a hot start. But then mine being an R2 it does NOT have air and so it does not get above 180 degrees on the gauge--ever, not in my ownership that is (160 degree thermostat).

wagone and the R2 Avanti

[Laemmle]

Wa-Gone.........It's an R-1 with A/C....I have a 160 'stat and I do goose the gas a bit when cranking....and I am very aware(sp) of the ammeter when it finally starts....needle going 3/4 to full charge....then tapers down...that cranking sure sucks the life from the 'ol Interstate Mega.....yea, Mega my butt.............!

[Laemmle]

Wa-Gone.........It's an R-1 with A/C....I have a 160 'stat and I do goose the gas a bit when cranking....and I am very aware(sp) of the ammeter when it finally starts....needle going 3/4 to full charge....then tapers down...that cranking sure sucks the life from the 'ol Interstate Mega.....yea, Mega my butt.............!

[wagone]

Laemmie, What part of the country are you in and how hot does it need to be before you experience a hard start? I still have a FEW problems with my R2, but as I said that's not one of them. But with the higher compression R1 and a/c I can sure believe it. I miss the a/c, but I sure like the poke of the R2. YEARS ago I had a '61 Hawk with the four speed and WCFB Carter. The R series engines and the R2 in particular are way beyond the '61, as it didn't have much--but I digress. Cooler weather is on the way........fall is not far off and I hope it is a LONG season here in the midwest.

wagone and the R2 Avanti

[wagone]

Laemmie, What part of the country are you in and how hot does it need to be before you experience a hard start? I still have a FEW problems with my R2, but as I said that's not one of them. But with the higher compression R1 and a/c I can sure believe it. I miss the a/c, but I sure like the poke of the R2. YEARS ago I had a '61 Hawk with the four speed and WCFB Carter. The R series engines and the R2 in particular are way beyond the '61, as it didn't have much--but I digress. Cooler weather is on the way........fall is not far off and I hope it is a LONG season here in the midwest.

wagone and the R2 Avanti

[64V-K7]

A lot of us have come into this problem in recent years and it has a lot to do with the newer formulation of gasoline. It seems to have a lighter density and will evaporate easily in a carburated car, since there's a vent on top of the carb. I've thought about plugging this hole, but haven't yet. Fuel injected cars don't have a problem because the systems are sealed and there's no where for the vapors to go..
Recently, I added an electric fuel pump onto my 55 Pres because it was doing the exact same thing as yours. With a 6 volt car, it can get painfull listening to that laboring Delco, grinding away.
I installed a pull switch for the pump and use it to 'fill' the carb for a half minute or so. This also allows the Pertronix to soak up and when you crank it, it starts almost immediately.

[64V-K7]

A lot of us have come into this problem in recent years and it has a lot to do with the newer formulation of gasoline. It seems to have a lighter density and will evaporate easily in a carburated car, since there's a vent on top of the carb. I've thought about plugging this hole, but haven't yet. Fuel injected cars don't have a problem because the systems are sealed and there's no where for the vapors to go..
Recently, I added an electric fuel pump onto my 55 Pres because it was doing the exact same thing as yours. With a 6 volt car, it can get painfull listening to that laboring Delco, grinding away.
I installed a pull switch for the pump and use it to 'fill' the carb for a half minute or so. This also allows the Pertronix to soak up and when you crank it, it starts almost immediately.