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    Turn signals for ‘49

    Folks, I could use some advice on where to buy and brand of aftermarket add on turn signal kit for my ‘49 Stude pickup. Thx

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    Look on eBay. There are several aftermarket kits available.
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    Speedway Motors switch is intended for your purpose, and is a good deal for $29.99.

    https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speed...SABEgKUbvD_BwE

    Wilk offers what appears to be the exact same switch for $13 less.

    https://www.amazon.com/Wilk-Universa...TGACCJ3KBZS5F9

    Basically a switch is a switch and doesn't care what the voltage is.

    You will also need to either add the additional lights, or change the sockets in your parking lights to accept a double filament lamp.

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    Just FYI: The optional directional signals offered for the 2R trucks used four separate lamps and did not employ the factory tail lamps and parking lamps. While the stock tail lamp(s) were double filament, as rockne10 said, the parking lamps were not.

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    Those Two recommended are the SAME Switch, but I do not see a Cancel Wheel on them, the better Units possibly USA have a Auto Cancel Device.

    They look like Chinese attempts at copying a good O'l USA Signal Stat or other Quality brand of Aftermarket Flasher, they use that add-on, funky looking Lever for the 4 Way Flash function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StudeRich View Post
    I do not see a Cancel Wheel on them, the better Units possibly USA have a Auto Cancel Device.
    Correct. These do not auto-cancel. It's getting difficult to find the old Signal-stat or Truk-lite switches, as those companies seem to concentrate on combination switches anymore, with hi-beam, lo-beam, signal and wiper controls.

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    Why not install the original Studebaker accessory direction signals? You may not be able to find a complete kit, but the individual pieces may be found from Studebaker parts vendors. That's what I did for my '47 Champion. There is a cam on the steering column to cancel the signals if you use a 1947-1952 Studebaker direction signal switch.
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    For the record, Studebaker offered no less than five different accessory truck directional signal kits during the 5.5 years that the 2R trucks were in production. They were to be installed by dealers, so there's no truly "correct" type for a given truck. They did evolve over time, so a 49 truck would be more likely to have an early style -- but dealers installed what they had in stock. The early types did not self-cancel. The later ones did, but only if you attached a little tab to the underside of the steering wheel that (if properly located) would hit a lever on the signal switch. Neither the truck steering columns nor the steering wheels had provisions for self-cancelling.

    The complete signal kits are very hard to find, though individual parts (new and used) come up on ebay and at Stude meets from time to time. I have a box full of used truck signal components, but no complete kits. A lot of trucks got aftermarket signal lamps installed by owners, anyway.

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    Does it have parking lights below headlites? You may have to add the front signal lights.

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    Thank you all for the suggestions and advice. The comments have been helpful. Yes, I hv the parking lights below the headlights. I will add signal lites on all 4 corners.

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    The above fender lights where UUUUGLY. I removed them on my 3e7. only change I'll ever make to that truck. I'm putting them inside the grille.

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    If self canceling is a real issue for you; you can get a solid state auto canceling unit, similer to what motorcycles have used for over 20 years, on E-bay for $50-$60 and just wire it in. A simple turn signal circuit can also be made from a couple SPDT relays, a flasher and an DPDT on-off-on toggle switch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs K Corbin View Post
    The above fender lights where UUUUGLY. I removed them on my 3e7. only change I'll ever make to that truck. I'm putting them inside the grille.


    Maybe it's an age thing, but I like them -- they make the trucks look more truck-y. When I grew up, all trucks of all sizes had fender-mounted signal lamps.

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    Quick question: I’m back on eBay to order signal lite kit. My truck is 6 volt neg ground; I chose matching kit, 6 volt neg ground, but when I click on “check if part is compatible with your vehicle “ it says it is not.??? It’s a $200 kit, so I don’t want to order wrong one! Thanks in advance.

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    If your truck still has the original electrical system, it's 6v positive ground. Go look at which post on the battery is attached to ground.

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    Okay, I know these aren't particularly pretty, but they do tick most of the boxes.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Volt-Stee...c/290948181894

    I got involved in searching out 6-volt lights too as I've got a '53 2R2-12 on it's way to the UK, though have just seen the container ship will be on a bus service; soon leave Houston for New Orleans and then..? Maybe Miami, somewhere along the coast to South Carolina, possibly NJ and then across the Atlantic. Of course, I hope not, but I can only watch each as the journey unfolds, lol

    I'm thinking of attending a large restoration show event next Month in the UK to see what alternatives might be available. I've already found a guy 40 miles away form me, who makes up 6-volt LED stuff, so if I can find light housing I like, we could hopefully just gut the connections and replace with LED, which would be much brighter. But, costs will come into it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packard352 View Post
    Okay, I know these aren't particularly pretty, but they do tick most of the boxes.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Volt-Stee...c/290948181894
    Quote Originally Posted by Royzon View Post
    It’s a $200 kit, so I don’t want to order wrong one! Thanks in advance.
    Wow, $100-$200 for those things now! I didn't realize those things had become a premium. I've got a box of used ones somewhere around here I'll have to look for them. Sounds like I coud sell them and make a mortgage payment, or use the money to build 60+ of the hidden turn signal units I made that replaced them.

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    That's the same $15.80 non-cancelling Turn Signal Switch with 4 Way noted here on Post #3 yesterday.
    You should be able to buy the pieces of that Kit separately for around $45.00 !

    But really, who NEEDS separate REAR Turn Signal Lights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StudeRich View Post

    But really, who NEEDS separate REAR Turn Signal Lights?
    Don't really want to debate the definition of "NEEDS" but 1949 Stude trucks only came with separate rear turn signal lamps. And it should be noted, the (single!) OEM tail/brake lamp is pretty dim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royzon View Post
    I will add signal lites on all 4 corners.
    Your tail lights already have double filament bulbs. The signal switch should already make the brake light filament work as a turn signal. Adding another set of fixtures would be redundant; but certainly wouldn't hurt anything.

    The turn signal switch is simply a switch, and doesn't care whether it is directing 6-volts or 12-volts or whether it is + or - earth.

    Adding front turn signals will require either another set of lights behind the grill or on top of the fenders, OR replacing the sockets in your park lamps to double pin base and using double filament bulbs there. All you need is a switch, and a decision on front lights. A $200 kit not so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Lackie View Post
    it should be noted, the (single!) OEM tail/brake lamp is pretty dim.
    Painting the inside of the light housing bright white and maintaining a good ground eliminates that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockne10 View Post
    Painting the inside of the light housing bright white and maintaining a good ground eliminates that issue.
    Not completely. I shoulda said they are dim AND tiny.

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