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    Need positive i.d. for V8 crossed flag emblem

    Was going to list this emblem on ebay but wanted to be sure I have the correct application. The casting number on the reverse has #1320133 but I was not able to confirm that as the part number. Thinking that it most resembles part 1360151 used on the ear muff (C pillar) of the 1964 Daytona and Cruiser? Can anyone confirm the application?
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    Yes this emblem was used on the roof post of ‘64 Daytona’s IF they were South Bend Built. The Canadian ones have the crossed flags, but no “8”. The emblem you have was also used on the front fenders of ‘57-58 Silver Hawks, and possibly others. It’s a cool emblem and would look great on all kinds of Muscle Cars!
    1950 Commander Land Cruiser
    1951 Champion Business Coupe
    1951 Commander Starlight
    1952 Champion 2Dr. Sedan
    1953 Champion Starlight
    1953 Commander Starliner
    1953 2R5
    1956 Golden Hawk Jet Streak
    1957 Silver Hawk
    1957 3E5 Pick-Up
    1959 Silver Hawk
    1962 Cruiser 4 speed
    1963 Daytona Convertible
    1964 Daytona R2 4 speed
    1970 Avanti

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    Yes it is a 1320133WP used as Kenny said, Plus on all '57 President Sedan and wagons and other 289 equipped '57's as in Police and Heavy Duty Sedans and Wagons as on Silver Hawk to indicate a 289 Engine.

    Never on any Cruisers though.
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    Thanks, I had not looked for anything pre 1960. Did find the number 1320133 listed for the '57 President only. Will list it accordingly. Appreciate the assistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Studebaker Wheel View Post
    Thanks, I had not looked for anything pre 1960. Did find the number 1320133 listed for the '57 President only. Will list it accordingly. Appreciate the assistance.

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    Brings back memories (as usual). Those emblems were pried off my 1957 President Classic while it was parked for an hour or two at a hospital in New York City (about 1961-1962).
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    I had a 1957 Transtar Deluxe with the flag emblem. I think several model C-cab trucks used them also.

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    Lightbulb Transtar V8 Emblem

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Gieseke View Post
    I had a 1957 Transtar Deluxe with the flag emblem. I think several model C-cab trucks used them also.
    Close, but not quite... here is the Transtar emblem:
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    The flagged V8 Emblem is a nice upgrade on a Transtar to show you have the Optional; (except on 1959 Studebaker Deluxe's) 289 Engine, but of course not originally Correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    Those emblems were pried off my 1957 President Classic while it was parked for an hour or two at a hospital in New York City (about 1961-1962).
    Did you catch the S.O.B.(s) who stole them? I bet you would have given them a long-term stay in that hospital if you did!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8E45E View Post
    Did you catch the S.O.B.(s) who stole them? I bet you would have given them a long-term stay in that hospital if you did!!

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    No, that was just the price of going to NYC, even in the daytime. Probably the worst part was the damage to the paint in their removal.
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    They are not applicable on the 1964 Cruiser. 64 cruisers had an elongated square with lines in.

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    Well, You Know what? I just looked up the pictures of my old Transtar--- It did not have checkered Flag, it is the same as Mark Hayden showed.

    Guess with my senior memory isn't always accurate.

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    Current Studebaker International Catalog would be a good reference for this - page 46, available for $38.00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet View Post
    They are not applicable on the 1964 Cruiser. 64 cruisers had an elongated square with lines in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmijim8 View Post
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    I'm not sure about that either? I believe the definition of a parallelogram, is a 4 sided figure with both sets of opposing sides being parallel. Without having the actual trim piece in front of me, for inspection, I'm not 100% certain, whether this is the case or not? If that's not the case, then I believe, the correct term should be a rombus.

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    If you have never seen a '64 or '65 Cruiser, here you go:

    Bell's Jet Green Cruiser1.jpg It's an EMBLEM!

    Note the opening Rear Vent Windows only on Luxury Sedans; Land Cruiser, President State, President Classic, and '61 to '65 Cruisers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StudeRich View Post
    If you have never seen a '64 or '65 Cruiser, here you go:

    Bell's Jet Green Cruiser1.jpg It's an EMBLEM!
    Ok, thanks for the picture, Rich. Yeah, I've seen them a few times, but not too many recently. I just couldn't visualize it clearly from memory! They say, that's the first thing that goes.

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    I do not know how many I have seen, but I have owned four 1964 Cruisers. To me, the emblem is a parallelogram (or VERY close to it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    I do not know how many I have seen, but I have owned four 1964 Cruisers. To me, the emblem is a parallelogram (or VERY close to it).
    Please forgive my error, Gary? After seeing the photo that Rich posted. I no longer question, the description of the emblem as a parallelogram. I think I was visualizing something more like the trim on C piler of a GT Hawk. I do make mistakes, much more often than I care to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StudeRich View Post
    If you have never seen a '64 or '65 Cruiser, here you go:

    Bell's Jet Green Cruiser1.jpg It's an EMBLEM!

    Note the opening Rear Vent Windows only on Luxury Sedans; Land Cruiser, President State, President Classic, and '61 to '65 Cruisers.
    Nice Cruiser! (Good to see this picture of my previously owned R-1 Cruiser.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by S2Deluxe View Post
    Please forgive my error, Gary? After seeing the photo that Rich posted. I no longer question, the description of the emblem as a parallelogram. I think I was visualizing something more like the trim on C piler of a GT Hawk. I do make mistakes, much more often than I care to.

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    Of course I forgive you. I too make errors here, including tonight when the incorrect model year registered in my brain.
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    Parallelogram, that’s the word I was looking for when I wrote my comment. Thanks!

    BTW Jerry very nice looking ex’s-R1 Cruiser!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Studebakercenteroforegon View Post
    Nice Cruiser! (Good to see this picture of my previously owned R-1 Cruiser.)
    Jerry in my opinion for what it's worth, (obviously, not knowing the circumstances) that this Car is a winner, very rare and you should'a kept it, I have forgotten where it went now after Bellingham, WA, maybe out of Country.

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