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    Retired and ready to work new project

    My first car was a Studebaker. 1969 (high school sophomore) 800 bucks for the 1964 Gran Turismo Hawk. That day, started my love affair with automobiles and I have been working on them since. Not professionally, always had another job that took most of my time and never stayed in one place long enough to create a working shop. Always making space in the garage to build an engine, pull the rear end, weld a floor pan slowly collecting tools and equipment and trying to find space to keep them and move to the next job.

    AND NOW, my time has come! Retired, settled in one place for the rest of my life and just finished my shop.
    Time to work the bucket list. Top of the list; a total car restoration. And did I mention I still own the 1964 Gran Turismo Hawk? Have several other oldies, but sooo many memories in that car. Drove that dude through high school and several collage years. Mid '70s, how can you drive a car that gets 10 mpg when your trying to get through school and gas prices are skyrocketing? 70 cents a gallon; where will it end? So the Hawk got parked and a 40 mpg B210 Datsun (remember those?) took me through the lean years. Enough reminiscing; but isn't that what old cars is all about? Is to me.

    Been a member of this forum and the SDC for many years. Received a ton of great information, given a little.

    Ready to start the first shop project; GT Hawk full restoration.
    If there's an interest, I plan to chronicle trials and tribulations on the forum. I'm sure it's been done before, but I got nothing better to do and I know the knowledge on this site is valuable.

    Next step is to add some photos; any starting advice would be great.
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    Congrats on your retirement Dell.

    For starters, before disassembly, I recommend taking tons of pictures of the car top to bottom particularly the detailed areas to record wire connections, hose routing, bolt patterns, brackets, etc. This will save a lot of time when you put it back together. Then, upon disassembly, mark and label everything. Good luck and have fun. Jeff

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    Love builds on the forum.

    Best advice is take the job in steps so that you can see results occasionally. Makes it easier than just ripping it apart into a pile of parts that look like there will never be an end.

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    Good advice already!
    I'm in final stage of getting shop ready; any ideas on racks I should build to store body parts?
    2x4's and plywood should do the trick, but a plan from someone who has done it would be most appreciated.
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    cut 5/8th's plywood in half, assemble brackets, and go with segregated areas for system storage...

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    I used angle iron and scrap wood (fences and pallets)

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    Do your best to keep it off the floor , Floor space is always premium in my shop , Try a loft system but don't forget your own lifting capabilities, And enjoy your retirement , I retired 19 months ago and cant believe how fast time goes , Ed

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    Think about just driving it and working on. Slowly making it better. Much more enjoyable.

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    Being as how my shop doesn't have a lot of square footage, I've taken to hanging large parts (hoods, fenders, etc) from the ceiling. Climbed a ladder and bolted small pulleys to the rafters, and ran rope through them. Used Boat Cleats on the wall, so I can raise or lower them and then just "tie them off".
    Got large plastic bins at Walmart and labeled them ("Dashboard". "Wiring". "Steering". etc.)
    And when you disassemble: BAG IT AND TAG IT!
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    I like to tackle all the small jobs and keep the car drivable, such as restore the generator and put it back on, then do the carb and put it back on. This way if you finally want to do a frame off, all the small things are done, and the frame can be sandblasted, painted, and reassembled in much less time. Don't store parts in cardboard boxes, as mice love to make nests in them.

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    Dell Enjoy your retirement. Retirement is where it takes you all day to do what you use to do after work. Good luck on the restore. Hope you have plenty of money as it seems everything take three times as long and four times as much money as you think it will. We have almost the same situation. I have a 64 hawk I've been trying to get restored and have a 58 sliver hawk waiting in the wings to hot rod. This is about as far as I have gotten.
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    I have found that commercial racks from costco or home depot are much more cost effective and easier to build. I have over 20 that I purchased over the years and am very pleased with the result. I even made my work bench from them.
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    I have been working on my 57 Silver Hawk for 25 years. It's my driver. The GT has been in storage for over 25 years and it's going for the full tear down; just because a want too. you can do that when you retire, right?

    More good ideas; I'm making a list!
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    I like those little ziplock plastic bags with the frosted area you can write on for keeping small parts or mounting hardware identified. They are available in a multitude of sizes. (ULINE is one source.)

    In addition to shelving ideas already offered, I think at least one storage cabinet with shelves comes in handy for storing small parts already rebuilt or repainted and awaiting the re-assemble. It keeps them out of the way, and clean until you are ready for them. Large Rubbermaid bins do this as well, but then you are always moving the top bins to get to the bottom ones; and a tall cabinet makes things immediately visible. Items on the shelves should be wrapped or put in to smaller containers.
    If this is going to be a body off frame restoration you are going to need at least four times the space the car usually occupies.

    Looking forward to progress reports.
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    When you’re finished with the hawk I want to follow the B210 restoration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wdsj View Post
    I have been working on my 57 Silver Hawk for 25 years. It's my driver. The GT has been in storage for over 25 years and it's going for the full tear down; just because a want too. you can do that when you retire, right?

    More good ideas; I'm making a list!
    I keep saying..."NEXT TIME I RETIRE, I AM TELLING NOBODY!!!"...Especially relatives & neighbors. Be careful, 'cause folks will call on you for everything and resort to pulling on your heart strings and plastering you with guilt trips. Before you know it, you are busier than ever!
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    One thought on shelving, I've built some in my polebarn from plywood and 2 X 4's as well as bought some from the Big Box Stores with success but the best deals I've found on shelving is auctions. I've got about 35-40 running feet of eight ft high steel shelves with steel supports. I'm not sure what they hold but I've yet to put a sag in a shelf.

    Attend a few, you have the time and you never know what else may pop up. Just don't go crazy, I've watched a lot of stuff go for dang near new prices also.

    As Sears and a few of the other usual suspects shut down, they usually sell off the shelving also.

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    As your taking things off / apart take lots and lots of pictures. you'll have questions when you put it back together 10 years from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70Avanti2 View Post
    As your taking things off / apart take lots and lots of pictures. you'll have questions when you put it back together 10 years from now.
    The "lots of pictures" I completely get. Best advise out there.
    My first dabble in auto restoration was a 1919 Chevy Touring car my dad restored in the early 70's. He took pictures of everything on the car back then; just had to develop them and store them in a book (nothing digital then).
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    Just realized I put the wrong year on the GT, It's a 62 not 64. I have a 64 220SB Mercedes that is in the Que for some day.

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    Since your doing a complete restoration, there are several updates that would make your GT even better without making it a custom car. I would recommend the hood stiffening and inner fender kits from Classic Enterprises:

    https://www.classicent.com/studebaker/coupes-hawks

    Also, "quick" steering arms are nice too. I have some on my '60 Lark.

    And yes, I'd love to see a full restoration thread on the forum!
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    I had a datsun b210 wagon. 1300cc five speed. I made the mistake of fitting one size over michelin xzx tires. The slight change in gear ratio was enough to make the car undrivable in a headwind. It would get 40 mpg though.

    I had a meeting scheduled and was running us 31 south from south bend and in fourth gear could only sustain about 45 mph.

    Soon after that I traded it for a volvo 265. That 2.7 v6 had some torque!
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    Just working on it one hour a day will accomplish a great deal. You don’t get burned out and after a short time you’ll be amazed how much you can get done in one hour

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    Seems there is lots of interest in this thread, so let's keep it going.
    My wife and I decided to retire in MS about 10 years ago; though neither of us lived here much, it is our family home. First things first; get some land and build a storage building (for those who aren't married, that's code for "future shop"). Since built we have moved several times and each time more things go into storage. My parents passed and much of their stuff went to storage. My wife's parents passed and much of their stuff went to storage.

    The attached is a picture of shop before even more stuff went to storage. Can't find a picture of the final stuffed full building; but this gives an idea. When I moved here the 40x60 "storage building" was full. Had to move things just to walk around. No power, no lights.

    This post started with; "Retired and ready to work new project" but retirement started about 6 months ago. At that time the priority was; finish retirement house and turn storage building into shop.
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    and here is progress from yesterday; getting close!
    Power, lights, space, shelfs and A/C (essential in northeast MS)
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    At least you R honest about MPG. most claim to get 20 MPG. my 63 GT gets about 14-16 with every thing new or rebuilt.Nice looking shop by the way.

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    The shop is looking good! Adecent shop, with enough room to move around, and store parts, is a must. Good luck on retirement, and your project.

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