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    5,600 mile '63 Wagonaire on Bring a Trailer

    I've submitted this one on behalf of the Cade family.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ker-wagonaire/


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    Quote Originally Posted by mbstude View Post
    I've submitted this one on behalf of the Cade family.

    https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ker-wagonaire/

    Nicely done auction listing --

    Any criticism of this Wagonaire would be nit-picking -- for the right person it will be a great vehicle --

    Yes the six cylinder three speed no overdrive has its limitations -- same setup as my 1964 Challenger Wagonaire -- but fine for just driving around -- and with that roof open it will be the star of local car shows and cruise-ins.

    Hope it gets a nice price --
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    OHV6 and no OD makes it more reasonable to think someone only put so many miles on it.

    Quick original equipment question - six cylinder sedans would have probably had 6.00X15s, but did the wagons automatically get 6.40s or 6.70s standard?

    If this is the original spare, it might have originally had 6.50s from new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 62champ View Post
    OHV6 and no OD makes it more reasonable to think someone only put

    Quick original equipment question - six cylinder sedans would have probably had 6.00X15s, but did the wagons automatically get 6.40s or 6.70s standard?

    If this is the original spare, it might have originally had 6.50s from new.

    My 1964 Challenger 6 cylinder Wagonaire had the original spare when I purchased it -- 650 x 15 -- production order does not show any optional tire so that was standard -- currently running 670 x 15 bias ply Firestone Champions.
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    A 1963 six cylinder wagon with 3-speed would have a 4.1:1 rear axle ratio standard. A 3.73:1 and a 4.56:1 were options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    A 1963 six cylinder wagon with 3-speed would have a 4.1:1 rear axle ratio standard. A 3.73:1 and a 4.56:1 were options.
    My 1964 Challenger Wagonaire 6 three-speed no overdrive has the standard 4.1:1 and that is probably the best compromise -- decent for around town, happy at 55 on the highway, not so much at 65 or 70.

    As I say to my friends -- my Wagonaire is more fun to show -- my 1964 Daytona Sedan 259 V8 three-speed with overdrive is more fun to drive.

    But I love them both the same --
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    The notes in the auction indicate this car has Twin Traction. That seems like an odd option on a 6 cyl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgriggs View Post
    The notes in the auction indicate this car has Twin Traction. That seems like an odd option on a 6 cyl.
    Not unusual if the car started life in snow county. Early on, TT was ordered more for traction on bad road conditions than for performance.
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    I've worked on lots of them, and parted out even more. I'd say more of the wagons had TT's than regular Larks. Probably a regional thing.

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    IT was CBS News in NYC that had a fleet of these all white.

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    Broke Five Figures --

    It is into five figures with three days to go --

    Should go higher i would think -- I'm rooting for it --
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    I’m surprised people haven’t put their guesses in for what the hammer price will be . Let me start
    Ill say $21,500


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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    Not unusual if the car started life in snow county. Early on, TT was ordered more for traction on bad road conditions than for performance.
    That makes sense.

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    It must have been Monday when the guy installed the VIN at the factory.


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    Thought the price would be higher on such a low mileage car


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2R5 View Post
    Thought the price would be higher on such a low mileage car
    Not a Daytona (mainly for the interior) and not a V8 are what I believe are holding the price down. Of course, we do not know what will happen near the end of the auction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    ..we do not know what will happen near the end of the auction.
    IIRC - the '67 Avanti went from $27.5 to $32.5 in the last 10 minutes - so who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 62champ View Post
    IIRC - the '67 Avanti went from $27.5 to $32.5 in the last 10 minutes - so who knows.
    Now up to $13K -- my bet is it will go higher before it ends -- my guess is between $16K and $18K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjackameit View Post
    Now up to $13K -- my bet is it will go higher before it ends -- my guess is between $16K and $18K.
    Now up to $15,765 with about three hours to go --
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    15765 it is. I was interested to about 12,900. I'd like to find one with a little more miles so I could drive it and not feel bad. With 6000 miles, I'd hate to drive it because that's where the value is at.

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    The winning bidder is a fellow Studebaker parts/service vendor who signed up with BaT just to buy the car. We're all happy that it's going to someone we know.

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