Uh-Oh: Did Plymouth make Studebaker 259 V8s?

[studegary]

how far back? EMF?

Not that far back. For example, the diesels used in both cars and trucks.

EDIT: How about all of the 1965-1966 model cars?

[mike cenit]

True, I was kind of thinking regular production stuff, trucks always had options, the GM diesel etc, and the 65/66 aside from Canada.

[8E45E]

The Erskine used a Continental 9-F engine.

Craig

[mike cenit]

Craig, I guess that ends that, thanks

[Indyted]

The "289" cubic inch Studebaker V-8 actually displaces 289.066 cubic inches with its 3.5625" bore and 3.6250" stroke.

The "289" cubic inch Ford V-8 actually displaces 288.524 cubic inches with its 4.00" bore and 2.87" stroke.



Know-it-all car fan: "But, but, but...... it is the same engine! A friend of mine told me that!!"

[Bo Markham]

I had a fellow that was driving a nice original 1957 Hawk that his had a Packard "big" 289 that Studebaker had bought from Ford.
I don't know how to unravel that one?

Laugh your arse off and then walk away! If remarks are required your retort should be, "Funniest darned (*&%!) garbage I've heard all day!!!)

[greyben]

I know for a fact that some Studebakers used a 390 Packard engine. (Car Show intellect) I also once met a man whose uncle special ordered a '52 with a 289 from the factory.

[WinM1895]

Doing some research for my December 2018 Hemmings Classic Car column, I ran across an interesting tidbit :


By contrast, "289" Studebaker and "289" Ford V-8s really have different displacements when carried out to three places because they have different bores and different strokes.

Studebaker 289 introduced in 1956, Ford 289 introduced in 1963.

Studebaker: Solid lifters, dizzy located behind carburetor, valve covers retained by two studs/nuts that poke thru center of cover. Originally had a partial flow oil filter mounted on top of engine, in front of carb.

Ford: Hydraulic lifters (except HiPo), dizzy located in front of carb, valve covers retained by 6 bolts around the perimeter, full flow oil filter threads into adapter on left side of block.

Packard 320 & 352 introduced in 1955. 320 dropped in 1956, while the 374 was introduced. 56J's used the 352.

Ford 352 introduced in 1958 & 390 introduced in 1961.

Most people don't have a clue what engine size they have, and don't have a clue who made it.

One cluck on the Ford truck site I'm a member of, swore that 1968/76 F100/350's used the Dodge 360.

Uh huh, Ford 360/390 used the same block and heads, the only difference was the stroke. 360 only installed in F100/350's.

[8E45E]

Studebaker 289 introduced in 1956, Ford 289 introduced in 1963.

Studebaker: Solid lifters, dizzy located behind carburetor, valve covers retained by two studs/nuts that poke thru center of cover. Originally had a partial flow oil filter mounted on top of engine, in front of carb.

True for 1960 & later; two studs & nuts holding valve cover. Previous years had four per valve cover.

Craig

[WinM1895]

True for 1960 & later; two studs & nuts holding valve cover. Previous years had four per valve cover.

Craig

I knew it went from 4 studs/nuts to 2, but couldn't remember the year.

[Guido]

Studebaker 289 introduced in 1956, Ford 289 introduced in 1963.

Studebaker: Solid lifters, dizzy located behind carburetor, valve covers retained by two studs/nuts that poke thru center of cover. Originally had a partial flow oil filter mounted on top of engine, in front of carb.

Ford: Hydraulic lifters (except HiPo), dizzy located in front of carb, valve covers retained by 6 bolts around the perimeter, full flow oil filter threads into adapter on left side of block.

Packard 320 & 352 introduced in 1955. 320 dropped in 1956, while the 374 was introduced. 56J's used the 352.

Ford 352 introduced in 1958 & 390 introduced in 1961.

Most people don't have a clue what engine size they have, and don't have a clue who made it.

One cluck on the Ford truck site I'm a member of, swore that 1968/76 F100/350's used the Dodge 360.

Uh huh, Ford 360/390 used the same block and heads, the only difference was the stroke. 360 only installed in F100/350's.

Are you saying the 360 was only used in the F100 and F350 or all models between the F100 and F360? I had a 1976 F150 4x4 that had a 360.

[Guido]

Not if you go back far enough in Studebaker history.

A number of 1930's big trucks used Hercules engines as did the 200,000 US6 trucks produced in WW2. My Reo based 1962 Studebaker M-35 has a Hercules diesel.

[WinM1895]

Are you saying the 360 was only used in the F100 and F350 (no) or all models between the F100 and F350?

I had a 1976 F150 4x4 that had a 360.

1968/76 F100/350 = F100/250/350 + 1975/76 F150.

360/390 = 2WD, 4WD = 360 only.

30+ years as a Ford parts guy, with 77,000+ posts on Ford Truck Enthusiasts, I don't make too many mistakes.

[Buzzard]

As Guido stated

A number of 1930's big trucks used Hercules engines as did the 200,000 US6 trucks produced in WWII

my 1945 Studebaker US-6 2 1/2 ton is all original with a Hercules JXD Flathead 6 displacing 320 CID and even has the Studebaker "Wheel" cast into the exhaust manifold. Maybe our rumor of the day should state it was actually a destroked Chev 327 or a slightly over bored Chryco 318 polyspheric motor. Just a little time shifting involved.
Bill

[mike cenit]

At one time the South Bend Foundry was full of engines stored there, that looked like the 2 1/2 Hercules engines, they may have come from the 2 1/2 ton trucks that were converted to multi fuel