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    INTERSTATE Group 24 Battery

    I needed a new battery so I did what I usually do before I make a purchase. I searched the forum.

    I found out I had a dying Group 24F battery in our Lark. So I decided to go with the recommendation of purchasing a Interstate brand battery since they carry the correct Group 24, heck they even list Studebakers on their website. After looking at the list of batteries on line I decided to go with the cheapie $100 value model (yea right, a hundred buck is cheap) and the reason I wanted this black one is I want to try to keep the engine compartment as nostalgic looking as possible.

    So I walk in and let me tell you, Interstate Battery stores have some great stuff on the shelf, connectors, terminals, all kinds of cool stuff. So anyway, I told the counter guy what I wanted, no prob, it's in stock. Then I told him I really wanted a better battery but I wanted it in a black case, can I do a special order? So he tells me that they have batteries for AAA that are all black and the MTP-24 version in stock. Stock guy grabs it and brings it out...Perfect all black, 6 year, 700 cca, G24 battery. The part number for AAA is a little different its a MTP-124, he figures out how to ring it up and bam! $152 out the door with core. Hell yea! The price may be a little high for some but I'm happy with it.

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    Nice match up!

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    That's cool. I have run Interstate for years with very good luck. We just have repair shop vendors here, but can go through their catalog, and have it in a week.

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    I hate those bright green batteries, especially in older vehicles.
    I understand that Interstate is changing the appearance of their batteries very soon.

    EDIT: I see that you received a nice new battery that was only made last month. Some places keep batteries in stock for long periods of time. That is something to check when purchasing.
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    Not sure of the number, but the Interstate battery I bought at Costco for my Stude was all black and under $90. My Prius eats a 12V battery at least evey 2 years. The last one I got at Costco it killed in less than that. They gave me a new battery and 12 bucks back too. Oh, both of them were all black too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensherb View Post
    Not sure of the number, but the Interstate battery I bought at Costco for my Stude was all black and under $90. They gave me a new battery and 12 bucks back too. Oh, both of them were all black too.
    Costco used to sell Kirkland batteries. Whosever real brand they were is ?, but they didn't last 3 years. Earlier this year one of mine went ( I had 3). On return to Costco, they refunded me a LOT more than was paid for it and I was a bit thrilled and confused. That is, until going to the Battery store, found that the new batteries they sell are Interstate and to get a warranty replacement you had to pay a lot more for the same quality battery. Interstate are good batteries, I'm happy
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    It never hurts to buy a stronger battery than stock, and Interstate batteries have always been excellent quality. Sounds like you did well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 64V-K7 View Post
    Costco used to sell Kirkland batteries. Whosever real brand they were is ?, but they didn't last 3 years. Earlier this year one of mine went ( I had 3). On return to Costco, they refunded me a LOT more than was paid for it and I was a bit thrilled and confused. That is, until going to the Battery store, found that the new batteries they sell are Interstate and to get a warranty replacement you had to pay a lot more for the same quality battery. Interstate are good batteries, I'm happy
    Costco here hasn't sold Kirkland labled batteries in many years, since then it's been Interstate. I've been buying batteries from them more than 20 years, and haven't had any problem with them lasting 5-6 years except that Prius. They've always been very good about exchanging good for bad with it.

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    I believe all Interstate batteries are going to be black. They are touting it as their new look.
    I suspect it simply means they will be able to use all recycled plastics instead of the familiar green and translucent cases. Which, don't get me wrong, is fine with me. When it comes to plastics I think it should be 100% recycled, re-purposed or replaced.
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    I've had Kirkland batteries last for 5 to 6 years too! Of course I also had good luck with Walmart, Exide, Deka, Advance, Tractor Supply etc .....

    BTW, Kirkland and Interstate do not make batteries. They are a marketing company. There are only 3 major lead acid battery manufacturers in the whole US. Good chance that Interstate battery was made by Johnson Controls or Exide Batteries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Batteries

    Note there is a Studebaker connection at the start of Interstate Battery's distribution.
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    A size 26 battery has the terminals in the right place and is a bit smaller (and lighter) than a size 24. That puts a bit less weight on the fiberglass battery tray of an Avanti. Modern batteries have more CCA's than batteries in 1963, so the size 26 should be adequate for our needs today in our Studebakers. Comments?
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    Dwight, I have run a group 24 in my Avanti for 50 years.....that being said, you should (if you have not already) put a custom battery support under the battery tray.....it attaches to the frame, and takes the entire weight off the fiberglass inner fender!
    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight FitzSimons View Post
    A size 26 battery has the terminals in the right place and is a bit smaller (and lighter) than a size 24. That puts a bit less weight on the fiberglass battery tray of an Avanti. Modern batteries have more CCA's than batteries in 1963, so the size 26 should be adequate for our needs today in our Studebakers. Comments?
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    Does it not stand to reason that if all battery cases are the same (for a given Group size) and one has more CCA's than the other that the spun lead matting is likely thinner (to increase surface area) in the higher (some call "stronger") CCA battery? And wouldn't that thinner spun lead matting be more suceptible to deteriration? So, while a higher CCA battery may be deemed "stronger" in a cranking sense, it might be weaker in a durability sense. I'd think a higher CCA and possibly more durable battery would be to move up to a 27 Group battery.

    That said, I've seen the much hearld NAPA batteries die in 18 and 36 months and OEMs go 14 years in a few cases. So, in many cases it seems a crap shoot.
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    Often times the more CCA batteries have lead plates that reach down more in the case, which gives them more surface area.
    I think the deep cycle batteries have thicker plates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWChamp View Post
    Often times the more CCA batteries have lead plates that reach down more in the case, which gives them more surface area.
    I think the deep cycle batteries have thicker plates.
    That may be accurate. However, that puts the plates closer to the settling lead particles sitting at the bottom ripe for creating shorts.
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    I see that if you buy the Interstate Powerfast Series, 530 CA, 18 Month, "cheapy" for only $100.00, you are NOT a CASO or even Economy Minded!

    You are "Value Minded"!! The PC alternative!

    DO NOT let ANY Batt. seller sell you the Group 34 "replacement" Batteries, they have the wrong HEIGHT to fit properly.

    Does their Group 24 fit the Hold Down and Stock "J" Bolts etc. OK?
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    My friendly local mechanic says they were great batteries, but, like every other company, they "outsourced" and they are not so hot any more. It is luck more than anything. Couple days ago had to replace the battery in my little tractor; it was 11 years old (New Holland) The counter guy sold me a new one that looked just like it for $100 and a guarantee that it would not last 11 years.

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    I will bet you if you look at your old battery that lasted a long time before you turn it in you will see made in the USA. your new one will most likely say made in China.

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    I use "Alaska Gold" Batteries, they are sold at my Local Auto Electric Shop that rebuilds my Starters and Generators.

    They are supposed to have CAST Lead Plates instead of the pressed/stamped type that the cheapy's sold at Auto Parts Stores have.

    These have a LOT of CA & CCA's for the Price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swvalcon View Post
    I will bet you if you look at your old battery that lasted a long time before you turn it in you will see made in the USA. your new one will most likely say made in China.
    Actually most likely say it was made in Mexico. The cost of shipping likely still favors Mexico over China.

    Curious, if you take a shorted 900 CCA battery, cut it open and scrape out all the lead deposits shorting it out in the bottom, then put it back together, maybe you get a 500 CCA functional battery???
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    Hate is a very strong word, dislike would be more appropriate..
    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    I hate those bright green batteries, especially in older vehicles.
    I understand that Interstate is changing the appearance of their batteries very soon.

    EDIT: I see that you received a nice new battery that was only made last month. Some places keep batteries in stock for long periods of time. That is something to check when purchasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawklover View Post
    Hate is a very strong word, dislike would be more appropriate..
    Hate is an intense dislike. How do you know how strongly I feel about something? Dislike MAY be more appropriate for you, but not for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffry Cassel View Post
    My friendly local mechanic says they were great batteries, but, like every other company, they "outsourced" and they are not so hot any more. It is luck more than anything. Couple days ago had to replace the battery in my little tractor; it was 11 years old (New Holland) The counter guy sold me a new one that looked just like it for $100 and a guarantee that it would not last 11 years.
    A new selling tool for battery guarantees! Guarantee that a battery WON'T last a certain period of time . I love it! At least there won't be any misunderstandings later on.

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    Interstate battery was formed by John Searchy in 1952..............he hauled batteries around in the back of his Studebaker p/u!

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    So in other words you would categorize and ascribe that word to batteries and lets say neo-Nazis? Glad I did not attend English classes in your former schools.
    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    Hate is an intense dislike. How do you know how strongly I feel about something? Dislike MAY be more appropriate for you, but not for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawklover View Post
    So in other words you would categorize and ascribe that word to batteries and lets say neo-Nazis? Glad I did not attend English classes in your former schools.
    My education was fine. Your definition of the word is much narrower/different than my definition or the prime definition in my dictionary ("dislike intensely").

    I do not dislike the batteries. I dislike the color of the battery when in the engine compartment of an old car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    Hate is an intense dislike. How do you know how strongly I feel about something? Dislike MAY be more appropriate for you, but not for me.
    It works well for me when I describe the taste certain foods. If I tell someone how much I absolutely HATE the taste of something, they will no longer offer it to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8E45E View Post
    It works well for me when I describe the taste certain foods. If I tell someone how much I absolutely HATE the taste of something, they will no longer offer it to me.

    Craig
    Really? I do not like pot roast. never have. Can't tell you the number of times someone's wife has said "but you haven't tried MY pot roast." Then I have to suffer through another meal of something I already told them I do not like. They always expect me to pretend I did like it to be polite. Insult to injury, says I. Is it so hard to believe that someone does not like something that almost everyone else likes? I guess so.

    BTW, Costco here in the Bay Area has Interstate batteries.
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    Was working on a customer car the other day which had a new “parts store “ battery. It said made in Saudi Arabia on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by studerodder View Post
    Was working on a customer car the other day which had a new “parts store “ battery. It said made in Saudi Arabia on it!
    A RED CAMEL battery I once had in a '61 Lark I owned comes to mind.

    I Googled 'Red Camel battery', and all I get is a vintage radio advertising them: https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/unknow...red_camel.html

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    Well ok now......you "dislike" the color of the battery......that makes more sense, I try to never use the word "hate", I believe it's use demands unusually human or associated conditions.
    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    My education was fine. Your definition of the word is much narrower/different than my definition or the prime definition in my dictionary ("dislike intensely").

    I do not dislike the batteries. I dislike the color of the battery when in the engine compartment of an old car.

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    BTW, the Interstate MTP-24 in my Avanti has been in there for years now, I just use a battery tender on it during the long NYS winter......that being said, the repair shop I utilize has always swapped out bad batteries for me and those I have referred there......Interstate has always backed their products.

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    My battery died from sitting a year ( my health , not a problem with truck) I went to farm and fleet , they had a sale and a group 78 ( same size as a 24 both side and top terminals was $89 with 800 cranking amps . Since mine is a streetrod and battery is in toolbox in bed , I didn't care what color it is. My battery sits in a Douglas DC 8 battery box .
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    Even though the battery sat for a year, I'd stick it on a 6 amp charger for 24 hours and see if it will come back to life. Sometimes it works, and sometimes not. Check the battery once in a while when it's being charged, and if it feels like it's getting hot, then unplug the charger and buy a new battery.

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    There was a JC Whitney product called VX-6 or something similar. It was supposed to restore a battery with sulphated plates.

    It worked for me and restored a battery that would not take/hold a charge.

    A friend of mine said VX-6 was basically Epsom salts. Who knows?
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    It's not around any more but there are similar products available. $6 at Wal-Mart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Charge-It...&wl13=&veh=sem

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    Studebaker International was selling the blue battery rejuvenator stuff on their bargain table a couple weeks ago. I bought a couple, and think I only paid $1 or $2 each. I used some in 1973 on my 1952 Land Cruiser battery, and it worked good, but within a couple months the local thieves vandalized my car and stole the radio, battery, and radiator. They probably sold the parts for a couple bucks for drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TWChamp View Post
    Even though the battery sat for a year, I'd stick it on a 6 amp charger for 24 hours and see if it will come back to life. Sometimes it works, and sometimes not. Check the battery once in a while when it's being charged, and if it feels like it's getting hot, then unplug the charger and buy a new battery.
    Fairly recently, I purchased a car at auction that had not been run for more than one year, probably two (estate settlement). Others thought that the battery (12 volt) was long gone (the car was new enough for the battery to be drawn down by the computer, alarm system, etc.). It had even gone through below freezing temperatures. I decided that there was no harm in trying to bring it back. I had the car in my driveway and stayed away from it while charging. I used one of my six amp maximum chargers. I put it on for several hours per day for a few days straight. The battery came back to life and worked fine, at least until sometime later when I sold the car.
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    Interstate battery was formed by John Searchy in 1952..............he hauled batteries around in the back of his Studebaker p/u!
    Yes, even back at the beginning, Interstate was just marketing batteries made by others. John was out selling batteries from his pick-up, not running a manufacturing plant.

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