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    Can I borrow your truck?

    I bring my Champ occasionally to my wife's shop. It's an attention getter and good advertising for her furniture consignment bizz. Anyway. a new customer asked yesterday if I would mind following her to the Habitat store to pick up some doors and then follow her home (30 miles round trip).
    I politely declined but does anyone else think that was a little nervy for a stranger?
    PS, she didn't buy anything either!
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    I have seen a bumper sticker that says "Yes, this is my truck. No, I won't help you move."
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    That sounds a little "nervy" for a friend, much less a stranger ! People are so "entitled" these days, bah !

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    Picked up my '73 Ford F-100 P-up, in Sep. of '73, brought it home, parked it, my brother took the keys, and I didn't see it for 4 days. Can't tell you the number of times my mother, brother, sister, volunteered my truck and my services. It got so bad that my future wife's sister thought the truck benefits extended to her & her friends. I was fed up & sold it in '78 going truckless for 11 years, the longest time I've been without a truck. I've had various ones since 1989 but I've never been without. I'm thinking about retiring / downsizing, but I'm not sure if I could live without a truck.
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    Over the last 40 years, a way I found to cut the request off immediately is to say;

    If you need my truck while I'm available, here are the rules. I drive the truck, you buy the fuel. I do not load, unload, carry or tie down your possessions, that's up to you. We are not going to drive down the road looking like the Beverly Hillbillies, with all your worldly possessions in one load, if it takes 5 trips so be it. No more than 2 passengers allowed to climb in the cab, and your 4 friends can't ride in the bed either.

    After 4 years of feeling like a moving company, I gradually came up with those rules. So far, they still work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dleroux View Post
    Picked up my '73 Ford F-100 P-up, in Sep. of '73, brought it home, parked it, my brother took the keys, and I didn't see it for 4 days. Can't tell you the number of times my mother, brother, sister, volunteered my truck and my services. It got so bad that my future wife's sister thought the truck benefits extended to her & her friends. I was fed up & sold it in '78 going truckless for 11 years, the longest time I've been without a truck. I've had various ones since 1989 but I've never been without. I'm thinking about retiring / downsizing, but I'm not sure if I could live without a truck.
    Sure, you can live without a truck. Just borrow one whenever you need one. Seems like everyone you know does that. <G>
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    I've owned a truck since the mid 70's and wouldn't be without one now. I loaned out one of my trucks once and it came back with a bed full of trash and little gas in the tank. That was the first and last time I loaned out a vehicle. My comment to people that want to use my truck or have me haul something for them is I don't loan out my truck and I don't want to drive your car. Bud

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    Try owning a old school boom wrecker or a wedge style car hauler.
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    I can say for the 4 years or so that I drove my '55 E7 as a daily driver, no one asked me to borrow it.

    Probably for the same reason I didn't hesitate to leave the keys in it at work - only one out of a hundred would be able to figure out how to start it (turn the key, then push the clutch pedal all the way to the floor to engage the starter.) Then, only one out of ten would know how to drive the 3 speed on the column.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbruner View Post
    I bring my Champ occasionally to my wife's shop. It's an attention getter and good advertising for her furniture consignment bizz. Anyway. a new customer asked yesterday if I would mind following her to the Habitat store to pick up some doors and then follow her home (30 miles round trip).
    I politely declined but does anyone else think that was a little nervy for a stranger?
    PS, she didn't buy anything either!
    I would come back with; it is $20 per hour for my time plus 50 cents per mile for the pickup. The wallet is usually the deciding factor. Of course, if they go for it, then you are exposed from a license and insurance standpoint.
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    Sure, you can live without a truck. Just borrow one whenever you need one. Seems like everyone you know does that. <G>

    Jerry, you are so prescient. After having endured this a number of times, my father, Fred, took me aside and said;

    "I always thought you were a quick learner."He's also the one who taught me to ALWAYS look a gift horse in the mouth along with many other valuable life lessons. He was the luckiest man on earth and I miss him every day.
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    If she can't afford $19.95 to rent a U-Haul at Home Depot, she has a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8E45E View Post
    If she can't afford $19.95 to rent a U-Haul at Home Depot, she has a problem.

    Craig.
    I doubt that you ever got a U-Haul rental truck at Home Depot (really a Home Depot rental, not U-Haul), that finally came to $19.95. Fuel/mileage and tax are on top of that base price.
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    I bought home the 350 Chevy engine and the 700R4 for my Studebaker in the back of my Mazda 323 hatchback. The last time I remember borrowing a truck was when... OPPS, ... I trailered my Studebaker home back in 2010. But this was a good friend who always offers his help (and I try and not take advantage of it). In the end it is reciprocal. He wanted me to help pull half his truck apart due to a suspected exhaust leak causing loss of boost. In the end I found it to be a bad intercooler silicone hose. Fortunate him, and fortunate me!
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    A few years ago I wanted to ick up an engine outside Phoenix (I was still living in Cali) so I rented a truck from Enterprise @ $60.00 for the weekend with no charge for mileage. Now, just last week an old friend asked to borrow my 14' box truck to move from L.A. to Texas. Tags are due next month, insurance & he is responsible for all expenses. So far no word back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    I doubt that you ever got a U-Haul rental truck at Home Depot (really a Home Depot rental, not U-Haul), that finally came to $19.95. Fuel/mileage and tax are on top of that base price.
    Its still 5 cents cheaper than your suggestion in Post 11, plus she will have the appropriate licence and insurance on the unit.

    Of course she will have to pay fuel and possibly mileage.

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    Around where I live, it seems everybody has a truck but very few have cars! So far, nobody has asked to borrow my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbruner View Post
    I bring my Champ occasionally to my wife's shop. It's an attention getter and good advertising for her furniture consignment bizz. Anyway. a new customer asked yesterday if I would mind following her to the Habitat store to pick up some doors and then follow her home (30 miles round trip).
    I politely declined but does anyone else think that was a little nervy for a stranger?
    PS, she didn't buy anything either!
    My story is a little different . Several years ago I had a good friend who loaned me his truck occasionally. Every single time the truck had a problem while I was using the thing. The first time the brakes went out. I replaced master cylinder and pads. The next time the engine created a loud rattle. I then replaced three bent push rods. The next time the muffler fell off along with a large section of exhaust pipe. all of which I replaced. After a few more. mishaps I finally told him I could no longer afford to borrow his truck. To this day never ever borrow anything!
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    I'm with you, Don. I would worry about anything that I borrowed, breaking, or getting damaged somehow. I would feel obligated to buy the owner a new one, so I just buy myself a new one, to start with, and have the item for future use. I have loaned a few tools over the years, that never got returned, so now I don't lend or borrow anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbruner View Post
    I bring my Champ occasionally to my wife's shop. It's an attention getter and good advertising for her furniture consignment bizz. Anyway. a new customer asked yesterday if I would mind following her to the Habitat store to pick up some doors and then follow her home (30 miles round trip).
    I politely declined but does anyone else think that was a little nervy for a stranger?
    PS, she didn't buy anything either!
    I think you missed that she was hitting on you. (hint.....follow her home)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTHawk View Post
    My story is a little different . Several years ago I had a good friend who loaned me his truck occasionally. Every single time the truck had a problem while I was using the thing. The first time the brakes went out. I replaced master cylinder and pads. The next time the engine created a loud rattle. I then replaced three bent push rods. The next time the muffler fell off along with a large section of exhaust pipe. all of which I replaced. After a few more. mishaps I finally told him I could no longer afford to borrow his truck. To this day never ever borrow anything!
    Perhaps his motive for loaning the truck was to get it repaired. Reminds me of a case where I borrowed a car (a very rare event). I had four or five cars and sold them all on the same day. I asked a good friend that I had helped in the past to borrow one of his four or five cars. He loaned me a Chevrolet that he had recently spent hundreds on to get an electrical problem repaired. The car still had the problem. I bought and installed what the car really needed. I only needed the loan for one day and a few miles while I bought another car. I think that he came out ahead on the deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    I doubt that you ever got a U-Haul rental truck at Home Depot (really a Home Depot rental, not U-Haul), that finally came to $19.95. Fuel/mileage and tax are on top of that base price.
    Actually, Yes. HD gives you 75 minutes (hour and 15 minutes). I didn't have too far to go, but the truck was 5 miles away (in the opposite direction) from the pick up/delivery destination. So that added 10 miles extra. The destination there and back for the pick up/delivery was roughly 20 miles or 30 miles total. I had already pre-filled my 5 gallon gas can and did the gas replenishing at the house (BTW, the gas needle hardly moved and they didn't check). I made it to the return register in 74 minutes! It was $19.99 plus state sales tax (can't avoid that). The fuel cost is upon you regardless of how you get the truck. HD did not charge for mileage (but U-Haul seems to).

    In another HD truck rental incident we did go over about 10 minutes. However, they only charge $5 per 15 minutes (still works out to $19.99 an hour). So, for short hauls the HD truck rental was reasonable. My wife hired an independent delivery guy for similar and it was $50. The down side was HD doesn't reserve and you are at the mercy of "availability." In neither case did I use the truck to bring home items I had bought at HD. Not sure if it is just considered a "rental" truck (for all and any uses) or intended for HD purchases only. They never asked, and we didn't tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    Perhaps his motive for loaning the truck was to get it repaired. Reminds me of a case where I borrowed a car (a very rare event).
    I know on the very rare instances my dad ever borrowed a vehicle, he would thoroughly wash and vacuum it inside and out before returning it to the owner. And my grandfather would always fill up the gas tank if he ever borrowed or accepted a ride in someone else's vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wittsend View Post
    Actually, Yes. HD gives you 75 minutes (hour and 15 minutes). I didn't have too far to go, but the truck was 5 miles away (in the opposite direction) from the pick up/delivery destination. So that added 10 miles extra. The destination there and back for the pick up/delivery was roughly 20 miles or 30 miles total. I had already pre-filled my 5 gallon gas can and did the gas replenishing at the house (BTW, the gas needle hardly moved and they didn't check). I made it to the return register in 74 minutes! It was $19.99 plus state sales tax (can't avoid that). The fuel cost is upon you regardless of how you get the truck. HD did not charge for mileage (but U-Haul seems to).

    In another HD truck rental incident we did go over about 10 minutes. However, they only charge $5 per 15 minutes (still works out to $19.99 an hour). So, for short hauls the HD truck rental was reasonable. My wife hired an independent delivery guy for similar and it was $50. The down side was HD doesn't reserve and you are at the mercy of "availability." In neither case did I use the truck to bring home items I had bought at HD. Not sure if it is just considered a "rental" truck (for all and any uses) or intended for HD purchases only. They never asked, and we didn't tell.
    Thank you for the clarification on this.
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    "And my grandfather would always fill up the gas tank if he ever borrowed or accepted a ride in someone else's vehicle."

    My son borrows my truck occasionally, which I don't mind. However when he borrows another vehicle or truck he ALWAYS makes sure he returns it full. It 's something I taught him long ago & at a recent, event a friend of his, took me aside and told me how impressed he was that my son returned his truck full of gas and cleaner than he had ever seen it in years. It's something you learn in MAN 101 and too many, unfortunately, have yet to pass the course.
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    My experiences loaning my truck to my kids is spotty. Often damaged.... My son once borrowed it and went into a store leaving my grandsons in the truck. One somehow pulled it out of gear and it rolled backwards until the open door caught a tree. Sprung the door pretty well. Thankfully none of the boys were hurt.

    Now though they all have their own four door pickups so I never have to loan mine.
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    Some people need a truck for their work. Some people prefer a truck instead of a car. I've come to conclude that a truck as a secondary vehicle to use "as needed" just doesn't make financial sense. While it is conceivable I could likely buy something "serviceable" for $1,000 the cost of commercial plates, insurance and minor general upkeep would likely cost $750-$1000 a year. At say $25 an hour and probably only needing a truck less than 4 hours a year the $100 rental fee (yearly) just makes more sense.

    If one has a vehicle suitable for towing (say, an SUV) a decent, used trailer becomes the "truck only when you need it." The trailer is generally included in your car insurance and a lot of states have permanent plates. Otherwise you would be surprised what can sometimes be fitted into a car with a little ingenuity or dis-assemblage. It took removing the wheel and trying about 5 different seat folds, door angle combinations but I got a very large (free – CL) wheel barrow into my Mazda Protégé recently. Likewise a full sized washer tipped on its face barely cleared the hatch hinges on my Pinto station wagon (after I removed the elevated bumperettes.) Sometimes people are lazy or just don't exercise their brain cells. Trucks are great, but not always necessary.
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