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    Did they really cut that block for display purposes?
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    Its not cut, just displayed in an "exploded" view.

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    Here's a few of the pics I took of that motor at Speedy Bills during the Omaha meet in 2006...

















    Pretty much jewelry!
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    Here is an exploded view of the-ONE AND ONLY- 342 CI experimental engine
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    How efficient or not were those cast iron headers?
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    I need to get to Lincoln early on a Tuesday morning ad see the Speedway museum.

    Last night I was messaging with an old buddy and I confessed that one of the reasons I'm horrible at checking my texts is because most of them are spam from Speedway. No, I don't have any real use for a 30 over LS69 crate engine for the one time only closeout price of only $14439.95. Although I wonder if they do snag a sale or two each time they sent one of those texts out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougHolverson View Post
    How efficient or not were those cast iron headers?
    They do little to nothing on a normally aspirated street 289-308" through the mufflers.

    They may be of benefit on the supercharged engines, and with a R3 cam, especially when run with only a downpipe, as on a drag strip or at Bonneville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougHolverson View Post
    I need to get to Lincoln early on a Tuesday morning ad see the Speedway museum.

    Last night I was messaging with an old buddy and I confessed that one of the reasons I'm horrible at checking my texts is because most of them are spam from Speedway. No, I don't have any real use for a 30 over LS69 crate engine for the one time only closeout price of only $14439.95. Although I wonder if they do snag a sale or two each time they sent one of those texts out.
    I'm not sure how to opt out of a text but I use an app named truecaller on my Android phone. It blocks known spam callers and texts and allows you to select any and all calls and texts you want to block. Life's to short to put up with that crap when the solution is free. I also use adblock genesis plus on my computer to accomplish the same feat on popup ads.

    As a gesture to a fellow member for the advice, it would be nice if you sent the LS69 crate motor to me on your dime. I have several uses for that little devil.

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    That experimental 342 engine is the one with the Siamese bore casting isn't it?
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    This is my favorite 'experimental' engine:





    More here: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...ight=greg+cone

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    Must have been one h_ _ _ of a high torque starter to twist off the crankshaft nose. Yikes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue 15G View Post
    Must have been one h_ _ _ of a high torque starter to twist off the crankshaft nose. Yikes!
    They also drove the oil pump off the nose of the crank, too...

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    Without looking it up for the correct details, I remember that the front of the crankshaft had been repaired or modified with an extension welded on. That's what sheared as I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue 15G View Post
    Must have been one h_ _ _ of a high torque starter to twist off the crankshaft nose. Yikes!
    Some backstory, IIRC:
    Yes, it was the wrong starter, a very high torque WWII surplus aircraft engine unit.
    No, it wasn't just the starter. The lathe they used to make the crankshaft was a short bed unit, so the crankshaft was made without a snout, which was welded on later.
    Maybe, the welded snout would have been strong enough with just the running loads, but definitely was not sufficiently strong to withstand a cold start from a too-strong starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougHolverson View Post
    I need to get to Lincoln early on a Tuesday morning ad see the Speedway museum.

    Last night I was messaging with an old buddy and I confessed that one of the reasons I'm horrible at checking my texts is because most of them are spam from Speedway. No, I don't have any real use for a 30 over LS69 crate engine for the one time only closeout price of only $14439.95. Although I wonder if they do snag a sale or two each time they sent one of those texts out.
    Do try to get down to Lincoln to visit the museum. I have been three times (I have family in Omaha so when visiting I try to run down to visit the museum) and enjoyed each visit. The first time I went was during the International Meet in Omaha. I was probably the best visit since I got to talk with Bill Smith himself. It was a lovely visit. Lots of great stories about his racing exploits.
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