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    Coolest car design ever built?

    I think so. This is the Pontiac Vivant.

    Technically should not be called a Pontiac but it was built by Herb Adams when he was an engineer at Pontiac. It has a Pontiac based engine with a load of Pontiac HI Po parts in it from super duty engines etc. It has a tube frame, advanced suspension based on racing concepts, two seats, a hand formed aluminum body and the perfect touch the Pontiac brake integrated 8 lug wheels (like my Bonneville had).

    The tail is heavily reminiscent of the Alfa Bat designs of the early fifties, while the front is the best rendition of the Pontiac dual nostrils which were based on the Ferrari Formula one car, the 163 (IRRC) which Phil Hill drove to the championship in 1961.

    it is the most perfect design I ever saw. Still looks astonishing today.

    Link to my thread on the Mercedes forum for pics:

    http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...ml#post3770517
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    Quote Originally Posted by t walgamuth View Post
    I think so. This is the Pontiac Vivant.

    Technically should not be called a Pontiac but it was built by Herb Adams when he was an engineer at Pontiac. It has a Pontiac based engine with a load of Pontiac HI Po parts in it from super duty engines etc. It has a tube frame, advanced suspension based on racing concepts, two seats, a hand formed aluminum body and the perfect touch the Pontiac brake integrated 8 lug wheels (like my Bonneville had).

    The tail is heavily reminiscent of the Alfa Bat designs of the early fifties, while the front is the best rendition of the Pontiac dual nostrils which were based on the Ferrari Formula one car, the 163 (IRRC) which Phil Hill drove to the championship in 1961.

    it is the most perfect design I ever saw. Still looks astonishing today.

    Link to my thread on the Mercedes forum for pics:

    http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...ml#post3770517
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    To me, a production 1961 Pontiac is far better design; especially in a two door hardtop.

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    Styling is such a subjective matter....
    Yes, this does have the Bat styling queues...
    Looks like it was for sale pretty cheap, too...




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    The proportions seem off a bit.
    The cabin area is too small, making the driver look too big in there.
    I can see where Jim Hall might have liked the side profile, as I see some Chaparral shape there...
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    It's nice, but perfection is a debatable term...
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    Yawn... another sign I'm old
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    Tough crowd!

    I know, its ok but not as cool as a 49 Studebaker truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Pile View Post
    It's nice, but perfection is a debatable term...
    Ask the Borg...they constantly look for perfection. Of course you would be assimilated in that search.
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    I wouldn't put the styling above many production cars, let alone one-off prototypes, including the Jaguar E-Type and the 1953 Studebaker Starliner.
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    ...and the original GT-40?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyway View Post
    ...and the original GT-40?
    I was just giving two examples. It wasn't meant to be an all-inclusive list.
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    This one will always have my vote in this category. And, at the rate the REAL Chrysler was bringing concepts to reality in that day, it was a real possibility we would see something close in showrooms, until Chrysler became the poster child for what was going to happen the next 15 years to the Industry. This is right up there with the Studebaker Sceptre with me:

    https://www.allpar.com/cars/concepts...rger-1999.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by 556063 View Post
    This one will always have my vote in this category. And, at the rate the REAL Chrysler was bringing concepts to reality in that day, it was a real possibility we would see something close in showrooms, until Chrysler became the poster child for what was going to happen the next 15 years to the Industry. This is right up there with the Studebaker Sceptre with me:

    https://www.allpar.com/cars/concepts...rger-1999.html
    I like that Charger better than the one that is in production, but it just doesn't "do it" for me. I am not anti-Charger. I bought the first Dodge Charger in this area (January 1966 - mid-year introduction) and I also owned a 1969 Charger.

    You mention the Sceptre. If Studebaker put that into production, I would have purchased that instead of my 1966 Charger.
    Last edited by studegary; 12-04-2017 at 09:24 PM. Reason: added Sceptre
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    OOOHHH... this is such a difficult question but for me it would have to be a three way split between the Citroën SM, the Studebaker Dictator Business Coupe, and the 1959 Pontiac Bonneville 4 door Vista Roof. I know this list is pretty damn incongruent but there is a method to my madness.





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    The Barris Batmobile. Duh! Followed by the '51 Studebaker. "It's so neato cool! It looks like a rocketship!" Well, it deeply impressed my circa 9 year old self enough to set into motion spending the years getting into Studebakers, which lead to Google, Art Deco, Atompunk, and Dieselpunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stude Shoo-wop! View Post
    The Citroen looks ten times better with the six Cibie headlamps as it was designed for; NOT the sealed beams as mandated by US Federal law at the time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citroë...665411087).jpg

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    The best design ever built is subjective to say the least. How about the 37' Studebaker Coupe Express? The Jaguar XKE? The 38' type 57' Bugatti? Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder.

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    The two coolest car designs ever? The Aston-Martin DB5 (with modifications) and the Barris Batmobile.

    My wife with each...

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    The Citroen SM is a nice design, but having been part of trying to keep one running correctly for the original owner, I have kind of soured on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by studegary View Post
    The Citroen SM is a nice design, but having been part of trying to keep one running correctly for the original owner, I have kind of soured on them.


    Perfectly understandable. It's not like Citroën parts are flowing like the Seine River here in the U.S.! I was judging the SM from a pure design aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stude Shoo-wop! View Post

    Perfectly understandable. It's not like Citroën parts are flowing like the Seine River here in the U.S.! I was judging the SM from a pure design aspect.
    It was the M (Maserati) part of the car where most of the problems were.
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    The 37 Talbot Lago Teardrop Coupe still gets my vote for the most beautiful car ever built. About 15 examples were built.

    http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.c...1&d=1476040016
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    Those Talbot Lago's are seriously cool too!
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    For me it would be the gorgeous one of one 2003 CADILLAC SIXTEEN. 13.6liters 1000hp. Incredible cost no object construction and detailing.

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