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    Electronic Judging of Studebakers at South Bend

    This year at the 2017 International Meet in South Bend we judged all Studebakers using an Apple IPAD-based system named eJudged (http://www.ejudged.com). This system was tested at the 2015 International Meet in St Louis, and again at the 2016 International Meet in Warwick. Based on our testing of the software at these locations, a decision was made to go 100% with all divisions in South Bend this year.

    I worked with the eJudged group for nearly 4 years in developing this system which led to the success we experienced this year in South Bend. eJudged does not replace the need for judging standards for our cars. It simplifies the tallying of scores for cars, eliminates the long hours of checking score sheets (with the resulting errors), and provides instant identification of Division winners. And, it does it with many fewer volunteers needed! It has proved thoroughly reliable with no software glitches experienced this year.

    eJudged has worked tirelessly with me to develop this product that pretty much mimics the paper format we have used in the past, and is available to other Studebaker groups who may be considering a Zone Meet in the upcoming months. You can download the product at the Apple store as in IPAD phone only (it will not appear if you search for it as an IPAD only download). Look for EJUDGED, as another software package will show, for $4.99. That is NOT EJUDGED. Should you want to test this product this product for future use, or are just curious about it, I'd be happy to share a "TEST" environment the eJudged group and I have created for interest parties.

    Oh yeah, and it is VERY affordable! It runs "in the cloud". The only thing needed is a stable connection to the Internet to make it work.

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    First off, thank you for giving so much time and effort for this project. This is next level stuff that many car clubs will and should be using in the near future. I watched it in use in South Bend in basically the toughest test so far with inclement weather, and 3 lanes of judging. I look forward to seeing how far this can go! Thanks again, Denny.

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    Denny,
    Are the owners of the cars judged able to access the judging information about their car? Scoresheets were not given out with the awards at the Saturday afternoon ceremony. I for one was disappointed with the timing of the awards ceremony. According to the program, the ceremony was to be done by 2:30. It was late starting and finished around 3:30.
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    Yes I too would like a copy of my judging sheet if we are able to obtain them. Thanks

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    I would really like to see the results also. I heard my name called but couldn't break away from the people who helped me with my car. Also if anyone has pictures of my car at the show (I was taking pictures of other cars, didn't think about my own until I got home, or better yet in the parade (they would have had to been in the first mile or two) I would love to see them.

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    Thank you for the pics

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    The official SDC Judging Policy manual states, "A copy of the judging form will be included with each award. Those not receiving awards can pick up there (their) judging form after the awards banquet". Another meet blooper????

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    Yes, please, information about obtaining the judging sheets would be appreciated. I always like to see where I can improve my Avanti and rely on the judge's eyes to assist. Thanks.

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    Judging sheets will be emailed to everyone we have an email address for. Due to a death of a longtime Keystone Member (a Charter member) it may be delayed for a few days. If within a reasonable amount of time you do not receive your copy please email Denny Foust through the forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plwindish View Post
    Denny,
    Are the owners of the cars judged able to access the judging information about their car? Scoresheets were not given out with the awards at the Saturday afternoon ceremony. I for one was disappointed with the timing of the awards ceremony. According to the program, the ceremony was to be done by 2:30. It was late starting and finished around 3:30.
    Results of the judging WILL be available to all those who want them. If you would send it to me at: studeguy54@verizon.net, I will be sure you get the score.

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    Denny, as I approached the International this year, I had worked to get my GT ready, and all was moving right along. . .then, bam. . .and I couldnt bring her. . .Sistah Lucille, needed to go back into the shop. Because I wasnt showing a car, I knew instantly I wanted to assist with the JUDGING. . .not that I am a pro, by any stretch, but my motives were simple, I would be able to SEE up CLOSE and personal all the cars that came down the line I was assigned.

    So I volunteered, and I am glad I did. I was assigned to worked with Peter Bishop. We had a wonderful experience and each of the vehicles we judged were great cars, and a work of love so to speak from the owners.
    The electronic system, that you have worked on for several years, is a great little program, and as a scribe, it made it easy for me to put the information into the system. I suppose through the years the one thing about my JUDGES REPORT that frustrated me, was the inability to read what they were addressing. My judging reports always become my PUNCH LIST of things to do on the Sistah. With the advent of the iPad usage the penmanship of me as a scribe will not be an issue. Can I get an AMEN to that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stupak View Post
    The official SDC Judging Policy manual states, "A copy of the judging form will be included with each award. Those not receiving awards can pick up there (their) judging form after the awards banquet". Another meet blooper????

    Obviously, it didn't occur to anyone to realize that other complimentary documents needed amending, considering the various changes to the meet policy. You were sharp enough to notice this and bring it to everyone's attention. I'm sure Denny will take a look at these loose ends and have them corrected in the future.

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    Actually Judging sheets were intended to be included with the awards as they were presented. However, a breakdown of communication precluded the sheets to returned to Denny before the awards were presented. We are aware of the problem and hopefully it will be a one year occurrence. Sorry the system did not work quite as it was intended too.
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    When it was all over with, we made significant progress, and gave this system a complete run for its money, in every class, in a place where the most cars in an International are judged. Oh yeah, it poured down rain as well. So, as a friend of mine likes to say, "Now we go back to the Lab". We take what worked and expand it, and we correct what needs to corrected, to make the process better.

    I noticed that many were just hanging out and watching the cars coming through. I was so wrapped up in the execution of dealing with things that I made a note that we should have had more chairs for people to sit in. We can make this an event and process for people to watch happen. Its kind of cool to watch. And coffee....

    Again, great job Denny. This is next level future stuff.

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    Quote:"I noticed that many were just hanging out and watching the cars coming through. I was so wrapped up in the execution of dealing with things that I made a note that we should have had more chairs for people to sit in. We can make this an event and process for people to watch happen. Its kind of cool to watch. And coffee.... " unquote

    I like the idea of watching the judging, especially from a chair. I have attended Hershey Auctions numerous times and watching the sale cars enter and exit is always a treat. I envision this to be similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plwindish View Post
    Denny,
    Are the owners of the cars judged able to access the judging information about their car? Scoresheets were not given out with the awards at the Saturday afternoon ceremony. I for one was disappointed with the timing of the awards ceremony. According to the program, the ceremony was to be done by 2:30. It was late starting and finished around 3:30.
    Pardon me for being a bit tardy in responding to your request for the score sheet for your car. If you will email me at studeguy54@verizon.net, I will get your score sheet to you by email.

    Denny Foust

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    Quote Originally Posted by trap442w30 View Post
    I would really like to see the results also. I heard my name called but couldn't break away from the people who helped me with my car. Also if anyone has pictures of my car at the show (I was taking pictures of other cars, didn't think about my own until I got home, or better yet in the parade (they would have had to been in the first mile or two) I would love to see them.
    Pardon me for being a bit tardy in responding to your request for the score sheet for your car. If you will email me at studeguy54@verizon.net, I will get your score sheet to you by email.

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    I've tried to "private message" as many of you as I can about your results of judging as you did not post an email address on your post. I periodically come back in here and check the Forum for any new OR private messages. Anyone who would like a copy of their judging results can receive them, free of charge by emailing me at studeguy54@verizon.net


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    This may not be the best place to bring this up.... But why ... with cars (drivers) waiting in the rain to get judged..... would someone be allowed to bring a trailered car INSIDE the building to be judged and then allowed to put the car back IN the trailer to continue on... Isn't this supposed to be a DRIVERS CLUB?? I have had many unhappy owners contact me about this... and I had nothing to do with the judging.
    I believe this needs to be looked into at future meets.

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    Judging of cars out of the rain in South Bend

    Quote Originally Posted by Deaf Mute View Post
    This may not be the best place to bring this up.... But why ... with cars (drivers) waiting in the rain to get judged..... would someone be allowed to bring a trailered car INSIDE the building to be judged and then allowed to put the car back IN the trailer to continue on... Isn't this supposed to be a DRIVERS CLUB?? I have had many unhappy owners contact me about this... and I had nothing to do with the judging.
    I believe this needs to be looked into at future meets.
    I appreciate your comments about the judging of vehicles in/out of the rain, and, indeed, we will look at this in the future. I have also had a good number of owners write me to thank the club for allowing them to bring their trailers in the judging area to unload their cars out of the rain. These restored cars would otherwise not have been unloaded and had the opportunity to be judged. These cars were pulled in the center of the building where cars were being judged so as not to impede the traffic coming to either side of the judging building.

    We believe all cars were judged fairly, given the wet weather conditions, and this added convenience for owners of what were mostly pre-war restored Studebakers was very much appreciated and added roughly an hour to what was our expected end time for judging.

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    Trailered cars verses drivers? Has there been thought about division splits on these two? I have had comments from members dissatisfaction of over restored cars on the show field competing against their driver only to be put back into a trailer again at the end of the day. Would there also be consideration for adding a new class to cover the new trend of Rat Rods?

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    To springboard on something that Denny said, I had more than one owner of a pre-war convertible that was very concerned about getting their 1927 (or what ever year) interior completely wet. These cars had no windows, some no roof, but also wanted to be judged. This was the best compromise for all. Yes, its a drivers club, but just as important, its an owners club. This was primarily a thing that did involve pre-war vehicles. Sometimes one has to think on the fly, and with 3 lanes going one was reserved for trailered non-waterproof vehicles.

    CP1, this is an interesting concept. I believe that the concept is to have the vehicle look like it did when it left the factory. Over restored cars is something that we will need to talk about, and if there is a point deduction because it probably wasn't clear coated when it left the factory

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