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    Tim, if you want a metal dash plaque please PM me and I'll be more than happy to swap my metal one for your magnetic one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57studechampion View Post
    I don't know if those who are making negative comments have ever tried to plan an event or sit back and watch and then attend the event and make comments.

    I do a local show for my church, (working on #7) and there is always some things that could be done better given optimum conditions and personnel to do them with.

    That being said: This was my FIRST but definitely not LAST event that I have done with Studebaker. There is not a local Chapter near me, closest is 2hrs away.

    My friend and I came from Louisville KY and had a Great time overall. Yes some things could have been better but being a New person to these events I really did have the "Excitement of being there" with a LOT of knowledgeable and friendly owners and vendors.

    My only suggestion is that for someone like myself that had never been to an event and had no clue as to what to expect if there could be an information sheet with not just vendor information but other important facts. Like other I chose not to stay at the Host Hotel, partially because of the cost, so I did not get to meet with the others there or the hospitality room.

    If anyone would like more insight from a newbie to the scene please pm or call me.

    Remember I am VERY excited that I went and I will go to another meet.
    I see you are from Louisville, so wanna mention the Indi Chapter is only about 100 miles north of you. They are great folks, and WELL worth the drive

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    I keep hearing about the cost of the host hotel. I stayed at the host hotel and I'am as big of a CASO as anyone.It cost $700 for two people for 5 nights and we where right down town close to everything and the fairground where not that far away. If I happened to be doing nothing I could always go to the hospitality room or down to the bar for the Studebaker special beer. This was my vacation for the year and I had fun. Steve

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    At the risk of rankling some folks on the forum I'll get these things off my chest. Mary and I had planned to go to SB all along, which we did. At age 73 I realize full well that it might be my last chance. It's not as inexpensive or as easy for us on the west coast to make the trip as it is for most of you. I checked the GPS in the driveway before we got in the Taxi to get to the airport, Matilda (GPS) indicated that it was 2211 miles. So it's important that each hour needs to be worthwhile to make the meet worth attending. Unfortunately the shorter meet made it seem hard to appreciate the value for the expenditure. Don't misunderstand we enjoyed all of it, but it was too short.

    I would like to have driven a Studebaker but for several reasons it didn't happen. While I've remained an outspoken advocate, for years, for moving the meet away from the heat of the summer, I didn't expect the first week in May! Hello, anybody back there realize that we have multiple mountain ranges to cross! Selfishly I would have preferred a September meet. Two of my favorite meets were Rapid City and Lancaster, and much of the reason for that was the weather.

    We spent most of our time at the ASC hotel, where we stayed. I have nothing against the downtown location, but I've always felt more comfortable in cozy and less expensive ASC location. We also find that we know far more ASC people. It has always seemed that it was a bit difficult to break into the established geographical and limited interest clicks in the SDC. This is not in any way a condemnation of establishment. It's the problem of being the outsider. We also didn't register with the SDC, because by the time we were assuredly coming, the Building 84 tour and the banquet were both sold out. Not much left but the auction.

    The reason that we came was to see old friends, make new friends and enjoy seeing the cars that we love. We did that and savored every minute. Thanks to all who made it possible!-Bill

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    If you know anything about the Michiana Chapter, you know that they have a strong group. Its a mix of veterans, and new members and we value each and every one. That Chapter has more experience putting on International Conventions more than any other because of its location. However, even that strong of a group cannot possibly do an International and a May Meet in a close time frame. Remember, our May Meet each year is often larger than non-South Bend International Conventions. We tried in 2012, and it burned people out. Add to this the fact that vendors didn't want to travel to South Bend twice in one year (I certainly see their point) it hurt our May Meet, resulting in lost revenue. There are just too many moving parts, and let's face it, we are all volunteers. If we give up the date in May, even for one year to do an International, there are 3 organizations that are on a waiting list if we cancel. We won't have the Meet that has been going for 36 years in South Bend. We can't do it in June as the Fairgrounds dates are completely booked, along with hotels for other colleges and universities. After that there is a black out for the assembling of the July Fair. After the Fair is over, the dates are filled, or blacked out, and that puts us into August, when no one wanted a Convention, its too hot. After Labor Day, assuming we would have one that late in South Bend, there is a small Catholic University in town that has a football team most have heard of, and hotels and rooms are booked years in advance even on the weeks of away games in preparation for home games.

    There are no other venues in the immediate South Bend area that can handle 2,500+ people coming from the public on any given day, as well as the unique needs that we have for vendors and participants, as well as camping which is a whole dynamic in and of itself. To do it any further away would result in even more complaints from people because of the distance between the host hotel, and the other venue. In a recent survey the vast majority of members did not want to have an International Convention in the Summer. I hope all of you participated in that Survey. It had a huge amount of members participating as many have pointed out.

    It is also interesting to note that after the International held in South Bend in 2012, as the Co-Chair of that event, I took a huge amount of emails from people, and way too many phone calls and letters, complaining that we shouldn't have done the Meet in the heat of Summer. So, rock and hard place.

    As a perfect example, I ran a half marathon in Arizona in February. Does it rain there in February? Not usually. It's beautiful and the desert is green. I was looking forward to running in the sunshine in the desert and not have to wear a jacket. If you think it was cold at our recent event, try running outside in February. What happened? It rained the entire race day, and not just a sprinkle, a downpour for both days we were there. I wore a jacket the entire time, but still had a great time! Mother Nature can be inhospitable no matter what the time of the year, and locale.

    As we tweak and fine tune this new format, please remember, it is designed for current members to have fun/save money, recruit new members, and make it easier for a chapter to host a Convention in a non-South Bend year. It is also designed to not lose money like many recent ones did. Like others who have posted, I would urge you to participate in the upcoming survey, especially if you came to this one. Remember, only 1 day was taken out of the Convention, and it was pretty much a dead day. No offense here, but if you usually come to a May Meet in South Bend and didn't come to the International Convention because it was in May, I simply don't understand. You missed a tremendous 4 days of teamwork, special events, and a superior promotion of this Club, and Studebaker in a town that a couple of generations ago didn't embrace Studebaker at all.

    Wow, that was long. Thanks for reading this far...
    Last edited by Bob Henning; 05-14-2017 at 09:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Henning View Post
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    No offense here, but if you usually come to a May Meet in South Bend and didn't come to the International Convention because it was in May, I simply don't understand. You missed a tremendous 4 days of teamwork, special events, and a superior promotion of this Club, and Studebaker in a town that a couple of generations ago didn't embrace Studebaker at all.
    Wow, that was long. Thanks for reading this far...

    Yes,I did read it all.
    And am violating my own policy of responding to negative threads.
    But the highlighted sentence means a lot to me.
    I remember 1971. ......Like it was yesterday.
    Was in high school... Lost my dad the year before...
    My best friend's dad painted my dad's (now mine) bondo'd '61 Hawk in his front yard (Blaze red lacquer with plenty of orange peel).
    My high school car friend and I wanted to go to the SDC Int'l meet.
    Heck, I didn't even know where South Bend was.... We left after school and my part time job at a gas station at 9:00pm.
    Rolled into South Bend (or we thought it was South Bend) after midnight.
    Asked where the Studebaker meet was. Nobody knew... Stopped at the Farmer's Market, dragged out a couple of pallets, and crawled into our sleeping bags... dog tired.
    Were awakened at 5am before sunup to the sound of farmers trucks pulling in with produce. Got some strange looks..
    Drove around looking for anything Studebaker meet related. Couple motels had letters up on their billboard signs.
    Made a couple wrong turns and went down some side streets... People actually jeered us and a couple of rocks were thrown at us. How welcoming!
    Finally found SASCO and it was heaven. Six stories of digging through stuff. And me with only $45 in cash and needing gas to get home.
    Bought some goodies. Found a motel that had Stude's in the parking lot. Went to the back of the parking lot and stretched a hammock out between two tree's.
    Slept great that night until the T-storms rolled in, and then found out how a Hawk is not a great camper for two guys.
    Found the show grounds and had a great time. Memories seared into my feeble brain....even 45 years later...
    Flash forward to today...
    I find it embarrassing to see the only rocks getting thrown now are NOT from the South Bend people, but from our very own club members.
    HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim333 View Post
    ......everything else was a flop..........The swap meet, the car show, the 196 car parade, the cruise night, the comraderie????? What banquet has there ever been where the presentation of whatever was being celebrated came BEFORE being fed?
    Giving an opinion as to what you thought was missing is good feedback, calling the show "....a flop" is downright rude and an insult to those who worked hard on it.
    Some car shows have t shirts made up, Steve would have complained if the shirt didn't have his car depicted.
    Enough said, kudos to those who volunteered countless hours.
    Tim,

    Thank you for your kind words. It seems that no matter how much time is expended on planning a meet of this nature, it's not going to be meet someone'sexpectations, and that's unfortunate, as there are too few people in this club anymore who either want to do the work necessary to put on a successful meet and/or volunteer to help.

    Thank you again.

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    I have helped with 2 International Meets and a few zone meets, so I know, so I'm judging this meet with ours.
    I meant at the banquet, draw the RED ticket numbers AFTER the meal, so if you didn't want to listen to the BS you could leave.
    I apologize for calling it a "FLOP" that was not the correct word. I should have said "A DISAPPOINTMENT"

    And tim333 you seem to have the wrong impression of me. I WASN'T EXPECTING A "T-SHIRT WITH MY CAR ON IT" but I was expecting a mug.
    Shame on you!!

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    my thoughts on the meet were as follows, to have a national planned while school is still in session was a questionable move, families that bring their children were excluded until late fri/sat if attending at all ( i may be wrong but it seemed to me to be the smallest attendance of any s.b. meet i have attended), i vended outside, arrived early on tues. and mostly because of weather, waited 3 1/2 hrs to even be shown where to set-up. so i did the next best thing and helped inside set-up of tables, no problem there, the weather as previously mentioned is always questionable that early in may , if the local officials i voiced my opinions to as well as milt the director of vendor communications would eliminate the spring swap for a better time to schedule the nats when in s.b, would favorably help attendance and avoid most of the weather issues, overall i had one of my better shows vending, but only because over 1/2 were pre=sold items, otherwise this would have been a very poor selling show, the long vendors night would benefit vendors if all who come to this show were allowed access, not just registered meet participants, as it is, i will wait until next scheduled nats in s. bend as to whether or not attend as a vendor or participant, or just plan another show instead, i dont want to step on anyones toes, but i talked to many other vendors who feel the same, thanks to those who read with an open mind, my intent is to improve by pointing out where improvement can be addressed, thanks, doug

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53willys View Post
    my thoughts on the meet were as follows, to have a national planned while school is still in session was a questionable move, families that bring their children were excluded until late fri/sat if attending at all ( i may be wrong but it seemed to me to be the smallest attendance of any s.b. meet i have attended), i vended outside, arrived early on tues. and mostly because of weather, waited 3 1/2 hrs to even be shown where to set-up. so i did the next best thing and helped inside set-up of tables, no problem there, the weather as previously mentioned is always questionable that early in may , if the local officials i voiced my opinions to as well as milt the director of vendor communications would eliminate the spring swap for a better time to schedule the nats when in s.b, would favorably help attendance and avoid most of the weather issues, overall i had one of my better shows vending, but only because over 1/2 were pre=sold items, otherwise this would have been a very poor selling show, the long vendors night would benefit vendors if all who come to this show were allowed access, not just registered meet participants, as it is, i will wait until next scheduled nats in s. bend as to whether or not attend as a vendor or participant, or just plan another show instead, i dont want to step on anyones toes, but i talked to many other vendors who feel the same, thanks to those who read with an open mind, my intent is to improve by pointing out where improvement can be addressed, thanks, doug
    Doug,
    Thanks for your input, and for your candor. As the Co-Chair of this Meet, I appreciate it. I will PM you.

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    This year was my first National and my wife and I enjoyed it very much, hope to make it next year.

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