The transmission in my 63 R1 Cruiser has started slipping and slow to shift when it is cold. After it warms up it works fine . It is the HD one with the oil lines to the radiator. I talked to a transmission man and he said adjusting the clutches wouldn't help. He recommended rebuilding it or leaving it alone. It doesn't take it long to warm up but I figure this winter it will be worse. I was planning on driving it this winter, it is my everyday driver. Thought about changing it to a turbo 350 or 700r.
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Seems ashame to drive that car in the winter but if you must what you might try is to put a pint of lacquer thinner in the transmission and drive it for an hour or so. This will circulate the thinner through the box, soften the seals and the thinner will boil back out of the transmission. I've done it before with similar symptoms and it worked wonders. Results could naturally vary.
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Out here, tranny rebuilds cost north of $600. That's a lot of tranny fluid ! Seriously.... your seals are shot. Nels' suggestion is fair, for a while. I've used Trans-X additive with similar, short term results. To put things in perspective... wthere is a thread here talking about placing a small spare in the trunk to gain space for a road trip. Most of us here carry several hundred pounds of road-replacement parts in the trunk anyway... whats a few quarts of oil, tranny fluid, water/Prestone....On a lighter note... make sure you have HD rear springs too.
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Originally posted by joncon View PostThe transmission in my 63 R1 Cruiser has started slipping and slow to shift when it is cold. After it warms up it works fine . It is the HD one with the oil lines to the radiator. I talked to a transmission man and he said adjusting the clutches wouldn't help. He recommended rebuilding it or leaving it alone. It doesn't take it long to warm up but I figure this winter it will be worse. I was planning on driving it this winter, it is my everyday driver. Thought about changing it to a turbo 350 or 700r.
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So are we talking about a H.D. Column Shift "Flight-O-Matic" or a H.D. "Power Shift" floor shift?
It is not common to have either one, so since they are both VERY durable and long lasting, your best long term solution is to rebuild it before the slipping clutches are totally burned out and contaminate the whole Trans.
The problems with these are almost always hardened Clutch Drum Seals after 50 years of use causing loss of pressure and Clutch slippage, and by the way that can NOT be adjusted, only repaired.
Bands can usually use an adjustment, but are not normally the cause of your symptoms.StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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It's a column shift. The local transmission man works on a lot of older collector type cars. He had a BW for a 70 mustang sitting on his bench and a 49 Buick on his lift when I stopped by. He said adjusting the clutches wouldn't help. I'd already put some of the Lucas transmission additive in it.
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Slow to shift cold, working better when warm is a classic symtym of hard lip seals and or o rings. Worn bushings can also allow sealing rings to cut into drums another source of a pressure leak. Drop pan and see what you find, metal or brass shavings means time for a rebuild. Lou Cote
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Those 'O' ring seals in the clutches and servos are shot- These trannies are simple and cheap to freshen up. If you must use it every day eventually it is going to fail on you. I have had the rings break into bits when I removed them and wondered how owners put old disused studes on the road. Have a look at my blog on repairing my own Flightomatic, Jon.
Repair it and rest easy.
Steve
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I have a Mercury that does the same things.........but only in the cold weather, in spring and summer no problems. The trans guys call this "morning sickness" I just let it warm up and then good to go all day with no problems.Originally posted by Steve Winzar View PostThose 'O' ring seals in the clutches and servos are shot- These trannies are simple and cheap to freshen up. If you must use it every day eventually it is going to fail on you. I have had the rings break into bits when I removed them and wondered how owners put old disused studes on the road. Have a look at my blog on repairing my own Flightomatic, Jon.
Repair it and rest easy.
Steve
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My experience tells me to prep the tranny for a fluid change by adding Lubeguard transmission flush, bringing it up to operating temperature and drive it around the block a few time being sure to use all gears including reverse. Drain and refill with a good quality fluid, (I like Red Line synthetic Type F), but those who prefer Dexron can use Valvoline Synthetic usually available at Wallyworld. Be sure to add a bottle of Lubeguar in the red bottle. These products are available at virtually every transmission parts supplier.
Your tranny will love the synthetic stuff...
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