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Lynn
10-19-2016, 06:53 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-Studebaker-/142153556767?forcerrptr=true&hash=item211903231f:g:TBUAAOSwZJBYBqza&item=142153556767

SN-60
10-19-2016, 07:45 PM
Great opportunity for someone looking for a project....Nice original color combo too! (Snowcap white/Ceramic Green)... 3spd o/d models such as this one is, which represent about 25% of 1956 Golden Hawk production, are definitely the ones to own! :!:

56Golden
10-19-2016, 08:06 PM
Great opportunity for someone looking for a project....Nice original color combo too! (Snowcap white/Ceramic Green)... 3spd o/d models such as this one is, which represent about 25% of 1956 Golden Hawk production, are definitely the ones to own! :!:


...and if only it would have had P/Steering;)

Also has a very weird Vehicle Identification Number ...maybe we've just located one of those two non-existent 56J prototypes???;):!!:

SN-60
10-19-2016, 08:14 PM
...and if only it would have had P/Steering;)

Completely agree!....The stick--p/steering combo is the ultimate with these 56J's, I believe only around 165 were equipped that way from Studebaker.:(

Lynn
10-19-2016, 09:25 PM
I agree on the color. I used to hate green cars, but now, seems as if most have had a color change, and a nice bright green like this just looks killer.

If I hadn't just bought my 53 Commander Hardtop last spring, I would be all over this. My nephew is considering purchasing a 51 Hudson. I sent him a link to this one.
If it were mine, I would add power steering for sure. Don't need it on the 53, cuz it is so light.
If it goes cheap enough, he may buy it. I will be going to that neck of the woods for MCACN in a few weeks, and won't be that much more difficult to drag a trailer. He can't beat free transport home!

Anyway, I probably just screwed him over by posting here. One of these knuckleheads is likely to buy it.

56Golden
10-19-2016, 09:44 PM
I agree on the color. I used to hate green cars, but now, seems as if most have had a color change, and a nice bright green like this just looks killer.

If it is the original Ceramic Green paint it is a high metallic (course metallic particles) that will knock your socks off under a bright noon time sun!!!


If I hadn't just bought my 53 Commander Hardtop last spring, I would be all over this. My nephew is considering purchasing a 51 Hudson. I sent him a link to this one If it were mine, I would add power steering for sure.

If your nephew gets it AND plans to add P/Steering, you can give him my contact info. I have BOTH the unique & ultra-rare shift rods needed sitting right here.

packard352
10-20-2016, 08:24 AM
Some folks have been querying the engine number with the seller because they see an 'S.' I've informed the seller that the 'S' on the engine number is correct for the '56 Golden Hawk as well as referencing them to Frank's 56J Register. Ceramic green is indeed a great color in the bright sunlight, I know... I've got one!

56Golden
10-20-2016, 10:44 AM
Indications are this 56J is Serial # 6030806 ...a late 1955 build in South Bend

JoeHall
10-20-2016, 11:02 AM
Most 56J folks know the 'S' prefix on the motor serial number indicate it is, "correct" for an UltraMatic transmission. A 'K' prefix is correct for 3 speed OD transmission. Not sure what's up with that. Could be the motor has been swapped, or the transmission has been swapped. Not a big deal, either way, if done well.

56Golden
10-20-2016, 11:58 AM
Everything pictured in that eBay ad is configured according to the PO for Serial # 6030806. Of course except for that non-'56 Hawk hood now installed & that spare non-'56 Hawk hood.

Original South Bend installed engine number was: K1130

56Golden
10-21-2016, 09:22 AM
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Number (1101) on body tag visible when zooming in on eBay photo matches this 56J.

Likely this 56J may have spent its entire 60 years less than a 100 miles from the end of the assembly line. Originally shipped to Chicago; currently in "Southern Chicago" (a.k.a. Frankfort, IL;)).

SN-60
10-22-2016, 09:29 AM
Most 56J folks know the 'S' prefix on the motor serial number indicate it is, "correct" for an UltraMatic transmission. A 'K' prefix is correct for 3 speed OD transmission. Not sure what's up with that. Could be the motor has been swapped, or the transmission has been swapped. Not a big deal, either way, if done well.

Some folks still assume the 'S' prefix is correct for a factory stick o/d '56 Golden Hawk because period 'Motors Auto Repair Manuals' and probably some other auto manuals, mistakenly indicated that! :ohmy:

As Joe indicated, this 56J either does not have its 'factory installed' Packard engine, or it was converted from automatic to standard shift earlier in its life. :)

Lynn
10-23-2016, 01:15 PM
Well, I am a bit confused. Some believe this is the original engine and trans, others do not.

aarrggh
10-23-2016, 03:02 PM
Well, I am a bit confused. Some believe this is the original engine and trans, others do not.

Yep , After all these years you would think these guys know what they are looking at . . winkety wink . . .

Lynn
10-23-2016, 05:51 PM
I am going to be driving right by there in November. Would be pretty easy to hook a trailer to the Suburban. I would only be buying to make it roadworthy and then flip.
But, if I don't know whether the engine trans is original, probably not interested.

Tag looks like 1101.

No OD auto trans in 56, correct? And yes, I realize what a stupid sounding question that may be. But I am relatively new to Studebakers.

59308

hausdok
10-23-2016, 07:28 PM
Well,

The auction just ended and it went for $6,100. Any of the brethren here buy it?

JoeHall
10-23-2016, 08:02 PM
Well,

The auction just ended and it went for $6,100. Any of the brethren here buy it?
Hopefully someone bought it so they can flip it, and make lots of money. :rolleyes:

r1lark
10-23-2016, 08:10 PM
No OD auto trans in 56, correct?


Yes, there were overdrive transmission Golden Hawks in 1956. Post #11 shows a reproduction of the production order for this car, note the 'OD Transmission' listed.

tim333
10-23-2016, 08:28 PM
There was quite a bit of rot underneath, that's why gas tank was hanging.

SN-60
10-23-2016, 11:05 PM
Yes, there were overdrive transmission Golden Hawks in 1956. Post #11 shows a reproduction of the production order for this car, note the 'OD Transmission' listed.

Lynn was asking if there were o/d AUTOMATIC transmissions offered in 56J's.....No.

bezhawk
10-23-2016, 11:19 PM
This car has been off and on Craigslist for about 5 years. It was a former complete restoration that was later stored under a tarp outside. It completely rotted underneath.

SN-60
10-23-2016, 11:31 PM
I would think that the stick o/d setup alone would be worth at least half the selling price to someone singing the 'Packard Twin-Ultramatic Blues'!!

Lynn
10-24-2016, 12:34 AM
This car has been off and on Craigslist for about 5 years. It was a former complete restoration that was later stored under a tarp outside. It completely rotted underneath.

Don't know how I missed it, but just looked closely at that rear underside shot. Ouch.

Way too much work to buy as a flip car. Still, would be a nice one to bring back if you were planning a complete resto anyway.
Best of luck to the new owner.