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Buzzard
10-08-2016, 03:05 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Studebaker-PRESIDENT-/142133992008?forcerrptr=true&hash=item2117d89a48:g:WA8AAOSwRQlXdxCJ&item=142133992008:D

studegary
10-08-2016, 08:13 PM
Another eBay listing without an auction!
What do they mean by "finned"?
The S/N is for a South Bend car. If it was from Idaho, I would expect it to be an LA/Vernon car.
I might be interested, but not at that price.
It is a (Vice) President sedan, not a President Classic.

StudeRich
10-08-2016, 11:24 PM
That is a really Beautiful President. I have to laugh at these Collector Car Dealer's Ads though.

One of THE MOST important Features of this Car, the OVERDRIVE, of course is not mentioned because they never know they are there. :(

If they ever actually Drove it, they might wonder why it freewheels though, it IS in O.D.

Then they say: "Everything Works, even the Clock!" Funny thing, it HAS None. :ohmy:

Those Interior Pics made me wonder, What Make would have those 4 pointed Star Sill plates?
A Pontiac?

kmul221
10-09-2016, 06:32 AM
Too much $$ plus no P/S or P/B pretty much killed my interest

SN-60
10-09-2016, 10:26 AM
Another beautiful Stude!...The stick O/D is a rarity in this model...I would agree that a P/S conversion by the next owner would complete a very nice package! :!!:

mnmfive
10-09-2016, 02:51 PM
there were two of these at Hershey this weekend. One just came out of a full restoration that was absolutely amazing. the other probably an older restoration that didn't come close to the newer one. they both were the slightly longer model with rear vent windows and gold emblems. I did put PS in my 58 President but certainly no need for PB. I have the PB unit but even without it to me it's just like having them.

jackb
10-10-2016, 12:18 PM
Nice car, "no ones home" ? Maybe clear that front springs were not installed to get "factory" height. Also, no undercarriage pics for views of frame, or car belly... or important....A-frames and bushings, kingpins, etc. Description says "freshened up" so I'll guess only cosmetics. I have been told these were great driving cars. Agree with PS concerns, but more on suspension rubber/bearings, etc.....would make me (if interested in this era sedans) hold back on that phone call. For me, there's nothing worse than a car that looks great but drives like a truck.

PackardV8
10-10-2016, 12:29 PM
I have been told these were great driving cars. IIRC, Studebaker installed the rear sway bar on some Presidents, but not on the C/K. Which brings up a point, the longer wheelbase President Classic, which most would refer to as the luxury model, is essentially the C/K chassis, so wouldn't it drive similarly?

And for a high-performance car, wouldn't one prefer the short wheelbase 2-door 4-bbl overdrive. There's a newly restored 2-dr 2-bbl automatic here in Spokane; neither fish nor fowl.

jack vines

studegary
10-10-2016, 04:03 PM
Nice car, "no ones home" ? Maybe clear that front springs were not installed to get "factory" height. Also, no undercarriage pics for views of frame, or car belly... or important....A-frames and bushings, kingpins, etc. Description says "freshened up" so I'll guess only cosmetics. I have been told these were great driving cars. Agree with PS concerns, but more on suspension rubber/bearings, etc.....would make me (if interested in this era sedans) hold back on that phone call. For me, there's nothing worse than a car that looks great but drives like a truck.

I have owned and done a lot of driving in both a 1957 President Regal four door sedan and a 1957 President Classic. I found the Pres. Classic to be a much better driving, handling, riding car.

nels
10-10-2016, 10:49 PM
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StudeRich
10-11-2016, 02:56 AM
there were two of these at Hershey this weekend. One just came out of a full restoration that was absolutely amazing. the other probably an older restoration that didn't come close to the newer one. they both were the slightly longer model with rear vent windows and gold emblems. I did put PS in my 58 President but certainly no need for PB,
I have the PB unit but even without it to me it's just like having them.


Jim, the Long Wheelbase President "Classic" is a "Y" Body Luxury Sedan a kind of "Limosette" as the '63 "Cruiser" was called.
A President 4 Door Sedan is a "W" Body on a 116 Ich. W/B. Except for the 289 Engine and Seat Upholstery, it's almost identical looking to a Commander 4 Door.

These come from a long line of luxury sedans dating back to about 1935 or earlier when they were called "Cruising Sedans", Land Cruisers, President States, President Classics and Cruisers over the years to 1966.

As mentioned, the 1953 to 1958's are on a 120 1/2 Inch W/B like Hawks, have fold down rear arm rests in most years, Rear Stabilizer Bars (up to 1958) and always opening rear Vent Windows (except 1966 Cruisers).

Your '58 President Hardtop is a "J" Body on a 116 Inch W/B.

8E45E
10-11-2016, 07:39 AM
Jim, the Long Wheelbase President "Classic" is a "Y" Body Luxury Sedan a kind of "Limosette" as the '63 "Cruiser" was called.
A President 4 Door Sedan is a "W" Body on a 116 Ich. W/B. Except for the 289 Engine and Seat Upholstery, it's almost identical looking to a Commander 4 Door.

These come from a long line of luxury sedans dating back to about 1935 or earlier when they were called "Cruising Sedans", Land Cruisers, President States, President Classics and Cruisers over the years to 1966.

As mentioned, the 1953 to 1958's are on a 120 1/2 Inch W/B like Hawks, have fold down rear arm rests in most years, Rear Stabilizer Bars (up to 1958) and always opening rear Vent Windows (except 1966 Cruisers).

The W-body 'vice'-President replaced the longer wheelbase 1955 Y3/Y4 President Deluxe. Like the '66 Cruiser, it didn't have opening rear vent windows either.

Craig

345 DeSoto
10-11-2016, 08:26 AM
Anybody notice the headliner over the rear window is not tucked in...and two bolts missing from the thermostat housing?

55 56 PREZ 4D
10-12-2016, 01:50 AM
Y body = 120 1/2"
W body = 116 1/2"
? J body = 116 1/2" or 120 1/2" ?

StudeRich
10-12-2016, 03:13 AM
Y body = 120 1/2" (is a Long Wheelbase Luxury 4 Door Sedan)
W body = 116 1/2" (is a Standard 4 Door Sedan)
? J body = 116 1/2" or 120 1/2" ? (is a 2 Door Hardtop)

A J Body is a 2 Door Hardtop, no 4 Doors, so no 120 1/2 Inch wheelbase.

55 56 PREZ 4D
10-12-2016, 04:49 AM
I see now, per the Body Parts Catalog, the J body is a 2 door Sedan.

8E45E
10-12-2016, 07:25 AM
I see now, per the Body Parts Catalog, the J body is a 2 door Sedan.

The J-body is a hardtop, and the F-body is the sedan; both two doors.

Craig

jackb
10-12-2016, 07:57 AM
"Anybody notice the headliner over the rear window is not tucked in...and two bolts missing from the thermostat housing"... looks like they used a later water jacket and older housing....

55 56 PREZ 4D
10-12-2016, 01:37 PM
The J-body is a hardtop, and the F-body is the sedan; both two doors.

Craig

I'm going off what the 53 to 58 Body Parts Catalog calls out.
Page# VII, Key to Body Symbols : J HARDTOP [2-door sedan]
Models: 58 G-B, 58H, 58L
Page #xIII, Model Identification : 2 DOOR SEDAN HARD-TOP - BODY SYMBOL [J]
And Page 268, Plate 23-9, which shows the HARD-TOP bodies.
Models 58G,58B-J4, Model 58H-J6, Model 58L-J8

8E45E
10-12-2016, 03:00 PM
I'm going off what the 53 to 58 Body Parts Catalog calls out.
Page# VII, Key to Body Symbols : J HARDTOP [2-door sedan]
Models: 58 G-B, 58H, 58L
Page #xIII, Model Identification : 2 DOOR SEDAN HARD-TOP - BODY SYMBOL [J]
And Page 268, Plate 23-9, which shows the HARD-TOP bodies.
Models 58G,58B-J4, Model 58H-J6, Model 58L-J8

As 1958 the first year Studebaker offered two different hardtop body styles, they obviously wanted to make it clear the J-body was a hardtop 'sedan' and the K-body was a hardtop 'coupe'.

Craig