How do I calculate what my final drive ratio would be in overdrive? The differential is a 3.92, and the overdrive is .67. Do I multiply the two? If that's so, it comes out to 2.54...which doesn't sound right...
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Powerglide 1.76 1.00 1.76
TH350 2.52 1.52 1.00 1.93
TH400 2.48 1.48 1.00 2.00
200r4 2.74 1.57 1.00 0.67 2.07
3.92 direct drive would be reduced to to 2.62, in 4th and OD on the 200 4R
(Nothing I do, will align those columns correctly. 200 4R has a .067 Overdrive ratio / x / 3.92 = 2.62 final ratio in OD)64 GT Hawk (K7)
1970 Avanti (R3)
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Originally posted by 64V-K7 View PostI don't need to do anything. The answer is correct. and so is the chart above it....
"...a .067 Overdrive ratio / x / 3.92 = 2.62 final ratio in OD)"
This would yield a 0.26 final ratio.
0.67 X 3.92 yields a 2.62 (technically a 2.63) final ratio.
Simply multiply out what you posted and what I posted and you should understand the correction.Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
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I have an Excel spreadsheet you can enter tire size, Diff Ratios, and Transmission ratios to calculate engine speed at a given MPH..
Items you can edit are in Gray..
This example is at 85mph with the 200r4 ratios as T1 and your 3.92 as the R1 ratio..
IM me with your email, and I can send it to you..Last edited by SScopelli; 10-09-2016, 01:33 PM.
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It is amazing what an overdrive (auto 700R4 in this case) does. My Daytona has 225-60-16 tires and a 3.07 rear ratio.
65 MPH in 1 to 1 "third" gear is 2,518 RPM and that isn't accounting for convertor slippage.
65 MPH in .7 to 1 "fourth" gear (overdrive) drops to 1763 RPM's (a 755 RPM drop) and with the convertor locked there is no slippage. BTW, the effective final ratio is 2.14.
The 3.06 first gear of the 700R4 gets the car moving fine (far better than the second gear start of the BW trans), but other than the freeway with a minor incline the fourth gear overdrive is pretty useless. And this with a rather "torquey" 350 Chevy. Supposedly some of the Camaro's with a 700R4 came with 2.73 rear gears. That factors to 1.91 with the 700R4 .7 overdrive!
I'd be curious to hear about your 3.92/.68 overdrive experience.Last edited by wittsend; 10-10-2016, 11:52 AM.'64 Lark Type, powered by '85 Corvette L-98 (carburetor), 700R4, - CASO to the Max.
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WITTSEND - The locked converter is mostly for 55 mph and above, such as on the interstate. My Cherokee with 3.73 rear and Chrysler/ Merced Benz OD does 65@ 2100 RPM. I'm hoping for about the same for my 289. It'll have to wait until next Spring...the Hawk is up in NY for the Winter, and I'm in FL...
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65 MPH in .7 to 1 "fourth" gear (overdrive) drops to 1763 RPM's (a 755 RPM drop) and with the convertor locked there is no slippage. BTW, the effective final ratio is 2.14. . . but other than the freeway with a minor incline the fourth gear overdrive is pretty useless. And this with a rather "torquey" 350 Chevy. Supposedly some of the Camaro's with a 700R4 came with 2.73 rear gears. That factors to 1.91 with the 700R4 .7 overdrive!
Our carbureted/distributor Studebaker V8s wouldn't hold the same loads at that RPM without pinging. Some experts recommend to gear a 75-80 MPH cruise at the torque peak; usually 2800 RPMs.
jack vinesPackardV8
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Best of luck with your conversion, remember though, the engine you are using is not a modern FI engine designed and "tweeked" to work well at a specific engine RPM range and highway speed. The secret is knowing what range your engine likes-the "sweet spot" in RPM, torque curve etc. and match the final combo of gearing, tires and engine needs to it. As noted in post #9-if it will only travel on a flat road at 65 and need to downshift to go up a small incline it won't be much fun to drive.
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Originally posted by 345 DeSoto View PostWITTSEND - The locked converter is mostly for 55 mph and above, such as on the interstate. My Cherokee with 3.73 rear and Chrysler/ Merced Benz OD does 65@ 2100 RPM. I'm hoping for about the same for my 289. It'll have to wait until next Spring...the Hawk is up in NY for the Winter, and I'm in FL...
Jack - The 350 Chevy engine is out of an '85 Corvette. Generic to every other SBC except it has forged pistons (factory) and slightly warmer cam* than the garden variety cam Chevrolet used. Designed for their small tube EFI setup it was noted for torque (cam likely plays into that) but was said to die off in the 4,500-5,000 RPM range. Mine has a Performer manifold and an Edelbrock 650. Still seems to have the same characteristic regarding torque and none of the attributes of EFI. (smiley face and sad face both applicable)
202* Intake Duration @ .050
206* Exhaust Duration @ .050
269* Intake Duration @ .006"
271* Exhaust Duration @ .006"
Cam Lift is
.269" Intake
.276" Exhaust
Gross Lift is
.404" Intake
.415" Exhaust
The LSA is 114.5*
It is installed on a 115* intake centerline and has an exhaust centerline of 114*.
Timing Specs @ .050"
IVO = 14* ATDC
IVC = 36* ABDC
EVO = 37* BBDC
EVC = 11* BTDCLast edited by wittsend; 10-10-2016, 04:50 PM.'64 Lark Type, powered by '85 Corvette L-98 (carburetor), 700R4, - CASO to the Max.
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