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BobPalma
08-19-2016, 08:43 AM
;) Time for a Pop Quiz.

Look at the Production Order for the 1962 Indiana State Police Lark 4-door in this thread:

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?96690-Good-Stude-Exposure-Indiana-State-Fair&p=1008061#post1008061

All things considered, what regular production option (not even a special fleet option!) seems to be missing from that Production Order? Given the car's intended use and equipment, you would have every reason to expect that this option would be on those cars. In fact, I'll bet the car was built with the option I'm thinking of, but it just didn't get put on the PO.

The first person to post the correct answer here wins a copy of the smaller, NOS, uncirculated 1964 full-line prochure #PD64-11:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/64studebrochuresmall_zpsdentixaz.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/64studebrochuresmall_zpsdentixaz.jpg.html)

Courtesy of Andy Beckman at The Studebaker National Museum, but I'll mail it to you. :)

(Cousin George Krem: You don't get to participate because it was you who first noticed the [probable] omission!:QQ:) :cool: BP

56Golden
08-19-2016, 08:58 AM
Dome Light ...ISP installed their own type.




PS: Where is that LARK PARKER when you need him?

rstrasser
08-19-2016, 09:05 AM
Bob;
How about heavy duty springs. Or traction bars like the Avanti or a rear sway bar. Maybe it would be listed as a handling package.
Ron

paul shuffleburg
08-19-2016, 09:42 AM
External hood release.

alaipairod
08-19-2016, 10:07 AM
Spare tire.......

Son O Lark
08-19-2016, 10:19 AM
Ejection seat!

Bob Langer
08-19-2016, 10:55 AM
Dual exhaust or Twin Traction.

Studebakercenteroforegon
08-19-2016, 11:00 AM
Twin traction could be very dangerous when driving with aggression on a rain slicked street.

JoeHall
08-19-2016, 11:09 AM
Twin traction could be very dangerous when driving with aggression on a rain slicked street.

For me, TT is much safer on slippery surfaces, because its less likely to spin out. Of course, I am seldom, "in hot pursuit". But not sure if that would change anything.

As for the OP's question: no clue, but eager for someone to get it right, to satisfy my curiosity :)

6hk71400
08-19-2016, 11:20 AM
Zippered Headliner for the Police Lights.

Bob Miles

asesolen
08-19-2016, 11:31 AM
Sure seems like that car would have had disk brakes... or at least power brakes since disk brakes were a 63 item

Studebakercenteroforegon
08-19-2016, 11:45 AM
For me, TT is much safer on slippery surfaces, because its less likely to spin out. Of course, I am seldom, "in hot pursuit". But not sure if that would change anything.

As for the OP's question: no clue, but eager for someone to get it right, to satisfy my curiosity :)

With Twin Traction, you are MORE likely to spin out in a slippery situation. Without Twin Traction, one wheel acts like a "rudder" when cornering aggressively, while with Twin Traction both wheels would spin on the pavement and you will be turned around before you know it.

sgriggs
08-19-2016, 11:52 AM
I would say twin traction, too.

On the subject of disc brakes, the production order was written on 2/22/62, at least a month and a half before the Avanti was unveiled--did Studebaker offer disc brakes *before* the Avanti was announced? I always thought disc brakes debuted on the Avanti and then were introduced as options on Larks and Hawks later.

Studebaker Wheel
08-19-2016, 12:09 PM
Seat belts.

T.J. lavallee
08-19-2016, 12:45 PM
No cage divider for back seat suspects. I didn't see it on the build sheet.

8E45E
08-19-2016, 12:46 PM
Bumper guards

Craig

Scott
08-19-2016, 01:02 PM
bumper guards (maybe they were standard?). Rats, Craig beat me to it.

BobPalma
08-19-2016, 01:34 PM
Dual exhaust or Twin Traction.

:D BINGO! I was thinking of dual exhausts...after all, it's a 289 Pursuit Marshal with a 4-barrel carb, for Pete's sake!

(Twin Traction is another good guess, but you win with Dual Exhausts.)

Is your address still Laurelwood Drive in Glenshaw PA, Bob? Please confirm here and I'll send you a PD64-11 pronto. :cool: BP

BobPalma
08-19-2016, 01:37 PM
I would say twin traction, too.

On the subject of disc brakes, the production order was written on 2/22/62, at least a month and a half before the Avanti was unveiled--did Studebaker offer disc brakes *before* the Avanti was announced? I always thought disc brakes debuted on the Avanti and then were introduced as options on Larks and Hawks later.

;) That's right on the disc brakes, Scott. I would not have expected this car to be so equipped due to its production date.

However, as for the quiz, I was looking for someone to pick up on the car apparently having been built with a single exhaust! Yikes! :cool: BP

BobPalma
08-19-2016, 01:40 PM
Bob; How about heavy duty springs. Or traction bars like the Avanti or a rear sway bar. Maybe it would be listed as a handling package. Ron

:!: An excellent observation, Ron; one I had not thought of. Therefore, I'll also send you a PD64-11 for that "sleuthness."

Is your address still on Wildwood Lane in Saugerties NY? Pleae confirm here and I'll send one out. :cool: BP

BobPalma
08-19-2016, 01:42 PM
Zippered Headliner for the Police Lights. Bob Miles

;) That's true, Bob, but I tried to lead everyone away from fleet-specific options. A zippered headliner would have been a fleet option not regularly ordered by "normal" customers. :cool: BP

BobPalma
08-19-2016, 01:53 PM
:) Thanks for participating, everyone.

Check out the original thread on The 2016 Indiana State Fair. Chuck Kern today sent a couple photos of his truck on display in that tent at The Pioneer Farm Exhibit. I added them to the OP on the topic. :woot: :cool: BP

Bob Langer
08-19-2016, 02:06 PM
:D BINGO! I was thinking of dual exhausts...after all, it's a 289 Pursuit Marshal with a 4-barrel carb, for Pete's sake!

(Twin Traction is another good guess, but you win with Dual Exhausts.)

Is your address still Laurelwood Drive in Glenshaw PA, Bob? Please confirm here and I'll send you a PD64-11 pronto. :cool: BP


Bob,

I will donate it back to you and you can use it for another Pop Quiz. I have some from the family dealership.

Bob

BobPalma
08-19-2016, 02:11 PM
Bob, I will donate it back to you and you can use it for another Pop Quiz. I have some from the family dealership. Bob

:!: Thanks, Bob; much appreciated.

As you see, I'm sending one to Ron Strasser. :) :cool: BP

rstrasser
08-19-2016, 03:25 PM
Bob;
Yes the address here is 6 Wildwood la. Saugerties NY 12477.
Thanks
Ron

Dwain G.
08-19-2016, 03:47 PM
Was pretty sure the answer was single exhaust Bob, based on having ridden in and seeing the P.O. on one of your '64s equipped the same way.

BobPalma
08-19-2016, 03:54 PM
Bob;
Yes the address here is 6 Wildwood la. Saugerties NY 12477.
Thanks
Ron

:!: 'Got it, Ron; 'coming at you right away. :cool: BP

acolds
08-19-2016, 06:01 PM
The 1962 Studebaker dealer supplied sheet I have shows dual exhaust standard with 289 engine

BobPalma
08-19-2016, 07:04 PM
The 1962 Studebaker dealer supplied sheet I have shows dual exhaust standard with 289 engine

:) 'Way cool, Al; thanks! You do learn something new every day. :cool: BP

Bob Langer
08-19-2016, 07:33 PM
This is from the Studebaker Public Relations Department that was sent to dealers.

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R3 challenger
08-19-2016, 09:00 PM
The 1962 Studebaker dealer supplied sheet I have shows dual exhaust standard with 289 engine

Thanks, Al--glad to find that out. I just checked my '60 / '61 dealer book, and dual exhausts were also standard with the 289 in 1961. This was on both the Cruiser with the optional 289 and the Pursuit Marshal (and, of course, the '60 / '61 Hawks).

George

benaslopoke
08-19-2016, 10:00 PM
Twin traction could be very dangerous when driving with aggression on a rain slicked street.

I agree some are very dangerous!! The dealership that I worked at installed an Aburn(??) posi traction unit in my S-15 Sonoma and was very unpredictable once it disengaged.. Unlike the production GM unit that was a superior unit when driven aggressively..

8E45E
08-19-2016, 10:24 PM
:D BINGO! I was thinking of dual exhausts...after all, it's a 289 Pursuit Marshal with a 4-barrel carb, for Pete's sake!

(Twin Traction is another good guess, but you win with Dual Exhausts.)

Is your address still Laurelwood Drive in Glenshaw PA, Bob? Please confirm here and I'll send you a PD64-11 pronto. :cool: BP


I guess we all should have known your answer, as you stated in post #29: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?68224-1962-Lark-Indiana-State-Police-cars

Craig