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Sdude
07-25-2016, 02:12 PM
A friend wants to buy this truck and wanted to know about fair price etc. It's in Montana and I understand it does run with original running gear. He's asking $5500 for it.

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mike super
07-25-2016, 03:07 PM
My suggestion is to offer 2500.00 and see what he says. The worst is a definitive NO. I dare say... no one is busting down his door. I am enclosing a photo of a car I purchased out of Nevada. He was asking 50,000.00 for the pieces and parts of a 1930 L-29 Cord. I offered 25k immediately. Told him my offer was good for 24 hours then I would buy another project that was far less money and not a pile of pieces and parts but assembled. He called me later in the day and gave me a number of 30k. Allen Barth took the check with him to Nevada.....called me and said all metal was but surface rusted. I would have paid more but my low ball bid paid off. I would post some shots but I will not hijack someone's thread.


Bottom line is ....nothing ventured .....nothing gained.

r1lark
07-25-2016, 03:25 PM
A friend wants to buy this truck and wanted to know about fair price etc. It's in Montana and I understand it does run with original running gear. He's asking $5500 for it.

56698 56699

It looks familiar, there might have been a thread over on the Studebaker Truck Talk about it.

StudeRich
07-25-2016, 03:33 PM
It appears to be one of the few ULTRA Rare 1954 Models! :!:

Skip Lackie
07-25-2016, 04:08 PM
Yeah, a 3R5 or 3R6. With a radio antenna in the "correct" position and rear bumper.

jclary
07-25-2016, 04:27 PM
In my opinion, a "C" cab, from '49 to the last, is pretty equal in value, when it comes to restoring, driving, and enjoying. The '54, being "rare," is of little consequence to me. It mostly means, they didn't sell many. Engine options, drive trains, short bed, long bed, two piece windshield, single windshield, and all the other variations of how they were dressed, is the "fun" part. Anyway you want one equipped, they are still basic, uncomplicated, honest, little dependable vehicles.

Whether a basic half ton six, big six, or V8, light chassis, heavy hauler, Scotsman or Transtar, they cast one of the most iconic shadows of their era. How many others accomplished that while spanning an entire decade of production?

Studebakercenteroforegon
07-25-2016, 11:12 PM
A long time Studebaker owner has his '56 1/2 ton - V-8 with overdrive for sale on Corvallis, Oregon craigslist for $2500.00

jackb
07-26-2016, 07:52 AM
Can you find 1-piece windshields for these trucks ?

Skip Lackie
07-26-2016, 08:29 AM
Can you find 1-piece windshields for these trucks ?

Yes. Phillips Glass has them for around $375.

jclary
07-26-2016, 08:46 AM
A long time Studebaker owner has his '56 1/2 ton - V-8 with overdrive for sale on Corvallis, Oregon craigslist for $2500.00

I wish it was closer. I would love to examine the truck myself. If it is as good as it looks, it would be an alternative to my current plan of installing a V8 in my 6 cylinder truck.

PackardV8
07-26-2016, 12:28 PM
Wonderful patina, reasonably straight tailgate, spare and carrier in place, rear bumper, radio.

The '54 is my favorite year, but unfortunately, that means a 6-cyl and that's why I bought a '55.

It will always be an unfathomable mystery why Studebaker didn't offer the V8 in pickups from '51-on. Yes, most mid-western farmers were CASOs and the V8 would have taken a year or two to catch on, but it would have cost nothing to do so and any additional sales would have been gravy.

Then, in '55, choosing the gutless 224" as the first pickup V8 - why would that ever have been a good idea? The lack of off-idle torque led to the demand for the Commander six to be reinstated. No reason to drop the big six in the first place, because it would have cost nothing to keep it in the lineup; even a troglodyte placing a new truck order deserves to have his preference if it's economically profitable.

jack vines

Skip Lackie
07-26-2016, 04:12 PM
Wonderful patina, reasonably straight tailgate, spare and carrier in place, rear bumper, radio.

The '54 is my favorite year, but unfortunately, that means a 6-cyl and that's why I bought a '55.

It will always be an unfathomable mystery why Studebaker didn't offer the V8 in pickups from '51-on. Yes, most mid-western farmers were CASOs and the V8 would have taken a year or two to catch on, but it would have cost nothing to do so and any additional sales would have been gravy.

Then, in '55, choosing the gutless 224" as the first pickup V8 - why would that ever have been a good idea? The lack of off-idle torque lead to the demand for the Commander six to be reinstated. No reason to drop the big six in the first place, because it would have cost nothing to keep it in the lineup; even a troglodyte placing a new truck order deserves to have his preference if it's economically profitable.

jack vines

Yup -- all good points. The fact that more than half of Studebaker's 1955 trucks were sold with V8s tells you how late they were introducing the V8.

62champ
07-26-2016, 05:46 PM
It will always be an unfathomable mystery why Studebaker didn't offer the V8 in pickups from '51-on.

jack vines

I spoke with a former Studebaker dealer in Georgetown, Texas, that ordered a new 2R16 to use as a dealer wrecker and tried to get South Bend to put in a 232 in 1953. They said it couldn't be done by them so he ordered the truck and had a complete 232 and had the crate tied down to the rear frame of the truck to be shipped together. He said his two shop mechanics had the big six out and the 232 in its place over a long weekend and it was still the dealer wrecker when he sold out in '65. That truck was in a salvage yard in the late '90s in Liberty, Texas, and hope someone saved it...

Skip Lackie
07-26-2016, 05:59 PM
I spoke with a former Studebaker dealer in Georgetown, Texas, that ordered a new 2R16 to use as a dealer wrecker and tried to get South Bend to put in a 232 in 1953. They said it couldn't be done by them so he ordered the truck and had a complete 232 and had the crate tied down to the rear frame of the truck to be shipped together. He said his two shop mechanics had the big six out and the 232 in its place over a long weekend and it was still the dealer wrecker when he sold out in '65. That truck was in a salvage yard in the late '90s in Liberty, Texas, and hope someone saved it...

I do not doubt the story, but the fact is that Studebaker had already done all the engineering necessary to install the V8 in a C-cab truck. They built more than 2000 of them for export to India during 1951-54. They were RHD, 4x4, 1.5-ton trucks with 232 V8 engines and 4-speed transmissions.

8E45E
07-26-2016, 06:53 PM
The fact that more than half of Studebaker's 1955 trucks were sold with V8s tells you how late they were introducing the V8.

My '54 Truck Fact Book shows the availability of the V8 in the 1-1/2 ton, (3R28) & up, but not in the 1/2 to 1 tons.

I got to see a couple of '55's with V8 last weekend parked side by side.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8859/28289643230_23c18f9513_k_d.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8042/27956626424_adf2895ea1_k_d.jpg

Craig

Studebakercenteroforegon
07-26-2016, 10:10 PM
https://corvallis.craigslist.org/cto/5695660435.html

1956 1/2 ton for sale in western Oregon.

Milaca
07-26-2016, 10:33 PM
Nice photos Craig! The yellow truck next to the Diamond T appears to be a Brockway? Perhaps the final year of that cab before they switched over to using Mack cabs. Most with that cab did not have a fiberglass tilt hood. You don't see Brockway trucks around this area of the country.

Milaca
07-26-2016, 10:37 PM
My suggestion is to offer 2500.00 and see what he says. The worst is a definitive NO. I dare say... no one is busting down his door. I am enclosing a photo of a car I purchased out of Nevada. He was asking 50,000.00 for the pieces and parts of a 1930 L-29 Cord. I offered 25k immediately. Told him my offer was good for 24 hours then I would buy another project that was far less money and not a pile of pieces and parts but assembled. He called me later in the day and gave me a number of 30k. Allen Barth took the check with him to Nevada.....called me and said all metal was but surface rusted. I would have paid more but my low ball bid paid off. I would post some shots but I will not hijack someone's thread.


Bottom line is ....nothing ventured .....nothing gained.

Please start a new thread and share photos of your L-29 Cord. The L-29 Cords were the most beautiful front-wheel-drive automobile ever made!

8E45E
07-26-2016, 11:08 PM
Nice photos Craig! The yellow truck next to the Diamond T appears to be a Brockway?

Brent,

It is a 1974 Scot, also owned by Ted Draeger, owner of the green '55 E13.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8784/27962223253_fcc28ba515_k_d.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8282/27960536564_bd825c26a5_k_d.jpg

Scot trucks were made in Nova Scotia from 1972 to 1980. I posted a Brockway here: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?55549-Orphan-of-the-Day-10-20-1971-Brockway-361

Craig

kurtruk
07-26-2016, 11:50 PM
Anyone else notice the difference on the front of the hoods of the '55s with the nameplate/grille spacing?

jclary
07-27-2016, 07:24 AM
Anyone else notice the difference on the front of the hoods of the '55s with the nameplate/grille spacing?

I noticed the gap, but was trying to be polite and not bring it up. But, since you opened the door....:rolleyes:

Now...I'm going to have to go out and take another look at mine.:(

It is part of what people servicing and working in the auto industry call, "Fit & Finish." And, truthfully, something I never paid a lot of attention to until I became a supplier to companies manufacturing vehicles and parts. Before that, I rarely gave much attention, (especially on new cars) to things like door, and trunk alignment. Now, it is one of the first things I notice. Not only body panel alignment, but smoothness of windshield, back glass, installation, and the alignment of logo ornaments, and light assemblies. Some of the worst offenders, of late, were the larger vehicles produced by General Motors and Chrysler.

On the green C Cab, pictured in this thread, that gap could have several explanations. Could be a replacement hood. These hoods will interchange over a period of many years. Besides being a bit warped, it could also be exaggerated by a slight misalignment of the holes mounting the long 1955 front hood ornament. From the pics, the hood looks to be aligned very well along the fender edges. Often, especially on older vehicles, alignment is a compromise. These hoods are large and flexible. I'm not sure this condition could be altered with manipulating the rubber bumper-stops, the center latch mechanism, or a slight adjustment in grille mounting. Since restoring my 1948 Business Coupe, I have never been completely satisfied with my hood alignment, but have done all I dare in attempting to make it perfect. I've seen some serious damage done trying to make a small problem better. Sometimes, it is best to leave well enough alone.

PackardV8
07-27-2016, 02:42 PM
Which is correct or are they both correct? Were big truck bumpers body color and pickups grille color?

Since mine is a mild custom, I decided it looked better half-and-half and also went with what
was supposedly the originally proposed grille paint scheme.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-faKcupCoFmg/VHknBVNk3UI/AAAAAAAAFgs/4xF7Ax4oTyIEG8RyXxiFpJBC-uqzRvlpQCL0B/w749-h562-no/PICT0004.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n33OF215Pfk/VHkm-sAd63I/AAAAAAAAFgc/DXAndsD6LFoh9tIg9r8lazChhqjuzs7BgCL0B/w749-h562-no/PICT0002.JPG

jack vines

what huh
07-27-2016, 02:50 PM
Pardon me for an off topic question, but....

Packard V8, what tail lights do you have custom install in your bed? They look nice

Skip Lackie
07-27-2016, 03:55 PM
My '54 Truck Fact Book shows the availability of the V8 in the 1-1/2 ton, (3R28) & up, but not in the 1/2 to 1 tons.



Craig
Agree -- but Stude only sold a total of about 1000 of the 3R28 and 3R38 trucks (domestic and export, but excluding the export-only, RHD 3R48 trucks built for the Indian army), which was only about 12% of total production. Their big (relatively speaking!) sales were always in the smaller trucks.

StudeRich
07-27-2016, 04:24 PM
Pardon me for an off topic question, but....

Packard V8, what tail lights do you have custom install in your bed? They look nice

I am not PackardV8, but those are very common and commonly used on Studes. 1970's Ford Pickup and Van, I think they are upside-down.

what huh
07-28-2016, 06:46 AM
I am not PackardV8, but those are very common and commonly used on Studes. 1970's Ford Pickup and Van, I think they are upside-down.

Sounds good, thank you studerich