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wdills
02-21-2016, 03:29 PM
HELP Please!! I need a picture of a C-body door sill scuff plate installed. I replaced my door sill sheet metal as part of the floor board replacement. Didn't get any photos of the original scuff plate installed, so now I don't know where to position the new scuff plate.

Thanks
Wayne

rockne10
02-21-2016, 05:03 PM
As far as I know, they can only go in one way. The front edge is almost straight while the rear edge has a distinct angle.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/1953/P6240009.jpg


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/1953/P6240010.jpg

wdills
02-22-2016, 08:22 AM
That is a very different scuff plate from mine. The plate for my 61 Hawk is much narrower than that one. Anyone have a pic of a 61 or similar installed? My scuff plate is not wide enough to cover the entire sill. I am not sure if it mounts out toward the outside edge of the sill or if it is set back to the inside of the car.

jg61hawk
02-22-2016, 08:55 AM
Wayne,

I'll look at mine and see if I can get a picture unless someone does that first (working right now). I 'll say this for now, however, you will have to make holes in the plate and or the sill. I assume the rug is already down. DO NOT DRILL THROUGH THE RUG YOU WILL CAUSE A RUN IN ABOUT A TENTH OF A SECOND AND RUIN THE RUG. Gee think I did that???

tim333
02-22-2016, 10:48 AM
Is the rug supposed to be UNDER the sill plate on a 63 Hawk? Mine isn't, thought I read somewhere this was correct. Doesn't make sense tho.

StudeRich
02-22-2016, 11:25 AM
If an Upholstery Shop custom made a replacement Carpet, I could see how they COULD hem the edge and fit it right to the sill plate.
But a Factory correct Carpet would at least allow the Plate to catch SOME of the carpet if not all, since it's purpose is to hold it down.

tim333
02-22-2016, 12:30 PM
Thanks for the reply.

rockne10
02-22-2016, 01:35 PM
Was there a time before or after, when the carpet was laid over the sill rather than under? Points were deducted on my '51 at Lancaster because I had the carpet screwed under the sill.
Without intent to hijack the thread; remember, Wayne still needs pictures of the sill on a '63 GT.

Warren Webb
02-22-2016, 05:18 PM
Without intent to hijack the thread; remember, Wayne still needs pictures of the sill on a '63 GT.

The 63 sill plate should have a curled edge that fits against the outer pinch weld of the rocker right next to the door weatherstrip with the carpeting underneath.

jg61hawk
02-23-2016, 11:03 AM
51776 Wayne here is mine. I guess the best way to describe it is how Warren did above. The curled or beveled edge goes out and the straight 90 degree side holds the carpet. I guess you are moving forward.....glass, carpet just watch the nut behind the wheel.

paul shuffleburg
02-23-2016, 01:24 PM
Rockne 10, the carpet in my 51 is supposed to butt against the sill but
I have it screwed under the sill plate to keep it from moving around. I
don't show my cars so it doesn't bother me.

wdills
02-23-2016, 04:05 PM
Thanks for the picture Jim. I appears from the photo that the 90 degree lip came out all the way to the edge of the channel that the door rubber sits in. Does the lip of the scuff plate drop down over the edge of the rubber channel or does it sit on top of that channel? I can't tell for sure from the photo because all your parts are too shiny and there was a lot of reflection in the camera lens. (shameless compliment as an attempt to get more info :-)

acolds
02-23-2016, 05:03 PM
Here are information on scuff plates the wide older style from 56 manual and newer narrow stainless type from 57 Clipper manual

jg61hawk
02-23-2016, 05:15 PM
I think you said it backwards. On mine looking at the part holding it straight out at eye level I believe the edges are different. One edge is a sharp drop off (what I am calling a 90 degree bend). The other edge is more of a bevel or as Warren said a curl. The sharp 90 degree goes to the inside of the car and holds the rug. The bevel or nicer curl goes outside. Here's where I must admit my problems. I never noticed before (thanks Wayne) but the driver's side does what Warren said and actually drops down over the sill (body) and almost touches the rubber weather strip. I think that is correct. I see my other side sits on top of the sill and exposes the white paint on top of the weather strip channel. I think that is wrong. I must have had a problem on that side but don't recall. I probably drilled the hoes too far inside. Now when you see the car you can point and laugh. Mine came too long also so I had to cut it.

acolds
02-23-2016, 05:19 PM
here are pics right side up

rockne10
02-23-2016, 06:36 PM
Rockne 10, the carpet in my 51 is supposed to butt against the sill but
I have it screwed under the sill plate to keep it from moving around. I
don't show my cars so it doesn't bother me.
Didn't really bother me either. I didn't know how it was supposed to be, and only had it judged to see how an amateur would fair in competition. That I got a Second Place with a car I had been driving for eighteen years pleased me well enough! I haven't changed it. :) The appearance is much neater with the carpet under the sill. But I did leave the carpet above the sill when I did my '53.

wdills
02-23-2016, 07:15 PM
Thanks for all the input. I think I know what it is supposed to look like now. If I can just drill the holes in the right spot, I should be good.

Wayne