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sweetolbob
02-15-2016, 08:47 AM
Here you go Packard folks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161977160739?rmvSB=true

Bob

r1lark
02-15-2016, 09:03 AM
I do want to have a Packard one day. And a '55 Clipper hardtop is on my short list. But not a project like this.........:)

8E45E
02-15-2016, 09:05 AM
Yes, it is 'freely rusting', sitting outside like that!

Craig

BobPalma
02-15-2016, 09:20 AM
:( I love it, Bob, but there's "no way" you could start at $2,000 on that car and hope to be done at less than three times its likely "value" as a restored car.

For the record, that specific model has one of the longest official names in Packard history: It is a 1955 Packard Clipper Custom Constellation 2-door hardtop!

They weren't cheap when new. Here's the only new Constellation sold by Palma-Rhoads Motors (Packard-Nash-Studebaker) in 1955, The GB color combination indicates it was Moonstone and Tourmaline!

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/55constellation_zpsckqqnyoi.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/55constellation_zpsckqqnyoi.jpg.html)


As half of the Clipper Custom series (the other model being a 4-door sedan), Customs they were the only 1955 Clippers to have Torsion-Level Suspension standard equipment. It was offered as an extra-cost option on the lesser Super and DeLuxe series.

Nice cars. Thanks for the link, Bob. :cool: BP

SN-60
02-15-2016, 09:43 AM
There's another interesting Packard on e-bay right now.....a '56 Patrician 4dr in rough shape...but what makes this one interesting is the FACTORY INSTALLED 3 speed standard with o/d transmission.....a HIGHLY unusual feature! :ohmy:

8E45E
02-15-2016, 09:44 AM
So what was the '54 "Sportster" that he traded in?

Craig

SN-60
02-15-2016, 10:03 AM
So what was the '54 "Sportster" that he traded in?

Craig

Good question!................Looking up '5497' on the Packard Club Registry will give the model. :)

8E45E
02-15-2016, 10:11 AM
Good question!................Looking up '5497' on the Packard Club Registry will give the model. :)

Never would have guessed its their clever term for a plebeian two door sedan!!

Craig

BobPalma
02-15-2016, 10:28 AM
Never would have guessed its their clever term for a plebeian two door sedan!! Craig

:o Not really plebeian, Craig, Sportsters were the fanciest of three pillared Clipper 2-door sedans available:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/1954clippersportster_zpsdcbqzmxs.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/1954clippersportster_zpsdcbqzmxs.jpg.html)

The three were:

Clipper DeLuxe Club Sedan, MSRP: $2,645
Clipper Super Club Sedan, MSRP: $2,765
Clipper DeLuxe Sportster, MSRP: $2,830

The only more expensive 1954 Clipper 2-door was a true, pillarless 2-door hardtop, the Panama. :cool: BP

Dan Timberlake
02-15-2016, 10:34 AM
http://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/P/packard%201954%20ClipperSportster.jpg

I guess after a year the owner was getting tired of the "sound of laughter tossed back by the breeze."
Or maybe just wanted a V8.

acolds
02-15-2016, 10:47 AM
The 56 Patrician states its not factory installed standard transmission, it still has the pushbutton ultramatic shifter on it

BobPalma
02-15-2016, 11:01 AM
http://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/P/packard%201954%20ClipperSportster.jpg

I guess after a year the owner was getting tired of the "sound of laughter tossed back by the breeze."
Or maybe just wanted a V8.

:) Dan, it's amazing how often people traded back then; so many of my Dad's invoices like this reflect cars only one or two years old, like this Sportster, being traded.

We just don't realize it today when people keep cars so much longer on average, and cars are not as dated by styling as they used to be. I was thinking about that yesterday in church; our 17-year-old 1999 Malibu beater was parked out in the lot and didn't look all that out of place in 2016. But how about if it was 1966 and we had driven a 1949 Chevrolet to church in an affluent, upscale northern Indianapolis church? The '49'er would have stood out like a sore thumb!

I have invoices here reflecting a 1955 Pontiac being traded in on a 1956 Packard Clipper and a 1955 Studebaker Commander being traded in on a 1956 Commander.

To me, though, the most remarkable one is this: A customer trading a 1955 Oldsmobile 88 toward a new, 1955 Packard Clipper Custom 4-door:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/1955clipperoldstrade_zpshe8e0xxw.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/1955clipperoldstrade_zpshe8e0xxw.jpg.html)

All I can figure out about that is this: We know 1955 Packard production was terribly and inexcusably delayed. Most dealers, including my father, didn't get any 1955 Packards of any sort until calendar year 1955. Many sales were lost to competitive makes; even people who came in wanting to buy a new 1955 Packard or Clipper with a V8 and Torsion-Level ride simply couldn't do so; the cars were not being manufactured! I've often wondered if Mr. Jones, here, went ahead and bought the new Olds because he wanted a new car and then came back when Dad could sell him a smoother, more comfortable Clipper Custom 4-door with standard Torsion-Level ride and 352 V8 engine.

Mr. Jones' car was Paint Code MP: Citrine (a yellow) and White Jade. Mr. Jones was our family attorney, a good personal friend of the family, and a really nice guy. I well-remember Mr. Jones' yellow and white 1955 Clipper Custom, here; he took good care of it and liked it very much, and kept it well into the 1960s, long after Dad and Uncle Milt and Packard were out of business. :( :cool: BP

SN-60
02-15-2016, 11:52 AM
The 56 Patrician states its not factory installed standard transmission, it still has the pushbutton ultramatic shifter on it

Wrong acolds!,...The seller states that the car came from the factory with stick O/D (a few did, but they are extremely rare!)

This Packard is in Liberty, New York....20 hrs left on auction

studegary
02-15-2016, 01:04 PM
"For the record, that specific model has one of the longest official names in Packard history: It is a 1955 Packard Clipper Custom Constellation 2-door hardtop!"

In the 1970s or 1980s, I had one of those sitting outside my kitchen door. I finally drove it to the junkyard.
We had five or six 1955-1956 Packards. We tried to sell them with an asking price of $100 each. We gave up and drove them to the junkyard.

studegary
02-15-2016, 01:08 PM
"Dan, it's amazing how often people traded back then; so many of my Dad's invoices like this reflect cars only one or two years old, like this Sportster, being traded."

In the 1950s, I only owned used cars, but did change frequently. In the 1960s, I started to buy a new car for a first/primary car. I drove my new 1964 for ten months. I kept my new 1965 for nine months before trading it in on my new 1966 Charger.
Now, my newest car is 15 years old.

StudeDave57
02-15-2016, 01:51 PM
This is EXACTLY why posting a link with your comment is a good idea.

There are TWO '56 Packard Patricians on eBay right now. Both claim to be sticks~

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-Patrician-/262286008467?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d1176e093:g:VVAAAOSwGotWr58r&item=262286008467
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-/252284136688?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3abd4e6cf0:g:JHcAAOSwFqJWqll7&item=252284136688

Posting which one you are talking about removes all doubt as to which one you are commenting on. Just sayin'... ;) :whome:


I oughta go after one of them. I need the drivetrain for my StudeBus!!!

SN-60
02-15-2016, 01:57 PM
Note the clutch pedal in the factory job....Packard didn't expect to sell many standard shift V8 cars, so they simply utilized the previous year's ('54) straight-eight pedal and upper linkage! :ohmy:

sweetolbob
02-15-2016, 02:01 PM
This is EXACTLY why posting a link with your comment is a good idea.

Posting which one you are talking about removes all doubt as to which one you are commenting on. Just sayin'... ;) :whome:


NAH!!! No sense screwing up a good argument on the forum with data. :eek:

TX Rebel
02-15-2016, 11:30 PM
Odd that 2 56 Patricians w/standard trans would be listed at same time as rare as they are. the one in NY looks like a real value for either a builder or someone needing the parts. There should be plenty of buyers within EZ driving distance of it. The seller in CO is a dreamer, though he is open to offers.
I bought a 56 Patrician w/standard shift in MO several years ago for $300 and picked it up on my way home from SB.
I like the solid Constellation in CA.
I anyone has interest in a solid 56 Super Clipper Panama ht, I have one here in Houston priced right. I do not need it since I have a good, loaded '56 "400".

raprice
02-16-2016, 07:33 AM
The said,"no rust". I guess he meant that it has patina.
Rog

SN-60
02-16-2016, 05:23 PM
I instantly think of the 374 and stick shift trans being transplanted into a '56 Golden Hawk, but I believe the T-85 in that factory stick Packard would need to be modified to work in a Hawk?

r1lark
02-16-2016, 05:34 PM
I like the solid Constellation in CA.


Barry, where is the Constellation advertised? eBay or Craigslist or ??

56H-Y6
02-16-2016, 05:53 PM
Hi

Here is a '55 Clipper Custom Constellation in the popular 'bumblebee' colors for sale in Arizona. Looks rather nice except under the hood. Bought for a more realistic price, it could be a great driver:
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/5440326739.html

The 1953-54 Clipper Sportsters were two door club sedans dolled-up with hardtop-style interior, chrome headliner bows, chrome B-pillar trims, all to field a car with the desirable hardtop appearance at a more attractive price.

For 1953, the only hardtop Packard offered was the Mayfair at $3,278, which was trimmed like a Clipper but $483 more than the Clipper Special Sportster, so the latter was a good value for a nicely-trimmed club sedan without the significant cost.

The following year, at $295 less than the '54 Clipper Panama hardtop but only $65 more than the Clipper Super club sedan, the Sportster sold quite well in a year of an overall disastrous sales plummet.

Here is a '53 Clipper Sportster posted on Craigslist:
https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/5442226962.html
An ambitious project, being a stick shift makes this one even more desirable.

Steve

PS: Here is another Constellation in LA that would be a worthwhile project:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/5403431661.html