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    Richard Quinn
    Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

  • #2
    Back in the Day Studebaker History, fun to imagine what these events were really like.
    Joseph R. Zeiger

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    • #3
      Appears to be quite a siren on the front of that '34. Suppose it would lead in to town with siren wailing to attract attention to the racer that followed?
      Brad Johnson,
      SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
      Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
      '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
      '56 Sky Hawk in process

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      • #4
        Looked at Midway Taverns homepage. Noticed that its called Martha's Midway Tavern. It shows a picture of a young and a old Martha. The young lady in Mr. Quinns second photo could be Martha.

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        • #5
          Wonder of wonders. While looking other things up I came across the captions to those photos. The group photo caption read as follows:"Ludo Van Stavoren, Ruth Webb, Luther Johnson (race driver) and Jesse Greene. South of Augusta, Georgia January 1934." Did a search but did not find out anything about them. Probably locally notable.
          Last edited by Studebaker Wheel; 12-20-2015, 12:48 AM.
          Richard Quinn
          Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

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            • #7
              Finishing up my Studebaker history presentation. It looks like I've got it wrong. I have Studebaker in 1930,1931,1932 races only.

              1930 - #22 started 7 and finished 8.
              1931 - #4 started pole position and finished 4 - #37 s-19,f-18 - #57 s-12,f-20
              1932 - #? started 10 finished 3, #37 S,38(?), f-6 #25 s-20,f-13 - #18 s-17,f15 - #46 s-11, f-16

              I thought that was the only appearance. Is what I have correct and what am I lacking? I'm missing the number of the #3 finisher in 1932 and is #37s start at 38 correct? I thought there were only 33. Were there more back then?

              Please let me know so I can correct my narrative.
              Jon Stalnaker
              Karel Staple Chapter SDC

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              • #8
                This web site had a pretty complete listing of how each racer placed in all the races.

                Gary Sanders
                Nixa, MO

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                • #9
                  Yes, 1933 was Studebaker's best year at Indy with nine cars having Studebaker straight Eight engines of which 5 were factory cars. Seven finished the race including all of the factory cars. I wrote two extensive heavily illustrated articles on these endeavors for the Antique Studebaker Review. Back issues are available. Incidentally Studebaker Eights were still being used in Indy racers through 1937. Of the 5 original Studebaker entries in 1932-33 there are five survivors and more in progress!
                  Richard Quinn
                  Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Gary... From what I saw on this website, Studebaker only sponsered cars in 1932 and 1933. I found studebaker powered cars from 1930 to 1939. I'm still a little confused as the #22 car shows up in 1930 finishing 8th, and the #4 car shows up in 1931 as the winner of the pole position finishing 4th.

                    Can anyone tell me which ones were built by Studebaker as opposed to the ones just powered by a Studebaker engine?
                    Jon Stalnaker
                    Karel Staple Chapter SDC

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                    • #11
                      Many entries beginning in the mid twenties ran Studebaker produced engines but only five were ever identified as Studebaker entries.

                      #37 was the Hunt special, built by Studebaker engineers without corporate Studebaker sponsorship in 1931. I believe it was running in first place at the 1931 500 when Tony Gulotto flew it over the wall. It was repaired and won the Pikes Peak Hill Climb that year. It's accomplishment induced the Studebaker Board to authorize four identical models with corporate support, creating the five car entries in the 1932 500. All five were re-bodied for the 1933 500. No others were built or sponsored by Studebaker, though Studebaker engines continued to compete in other entries.
                      The original 1931 #37 was restored to 1931 spec by Stan Smith, Sr and Jr in Centre Hall, Pa and made its premiere at the 1981 Atlantic Zone Meet in Boalsburg, Pa. Stan,Jr sold it to Bob Valpey.
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                      I believe it is still owned by Bob valpey.

                      Last edited by rockne10; 12-20-2015, 11:06 PM.
                      Brad Johnson,
                      SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
                      Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
                      '33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
                      '56 Sky Hawk in process

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                      • #12
                        Studebaker flathead powered cars at Indianapolis, without regard to entrant:

                        Year Driver Car# Start position Finish position

                        1930 Snowberger 22 7 8
                        McDonald 35 13 18

                        1931 Snowberger 4 1 5
                        Gulotta 37 19 18

                        1932 Bergere 22 10 3
                        Meyer 37 38 6
                        Gulotta 25 20 13
                        Fox 57 32 20
                        MacKenzie 42 39 28

                        1933 Evans 38 38 6
                        Gulotta 34 12 7
                        Snowberger 4 17 8
                        Meyer 9 16 9
                        Johnson 46 20 10
                        Bergere 6 9 11
                        Corum 47 18 12
                        McKenzie 51 39 18
                        Fox 57 30 28


                        1934 Snowberger 10 9 8
                        Gulotta 8 7 17
                        McKenzie 72 20 29
                        Bailey 58 16 32

                        1935 Insinger 62 31 14
                        Brisco 41 24 2
                        Synder 39 30 22

                        1936 Meyer 53 32 9

                        1937 Tomei 53 16 10

                        1938 Hall 37 27 30

                        1939 Hall 37 18 24


                        Studebaker is listed as entrant for 5 cars in 1933.

                        No Studebaker powered cars started at Indy prior to 1930
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rockne10 View Post
                          Many entries beginning in the mid twenties ran Studebaker produced engines but only five were ever identified as Studebaker entries.

                          #37 was the Hunt special, built by Studebaker engineers without corporate Studebaker sponsorship in 1931. I believe it was running in first place at the 1931 500 when Tony Gulotto flew it over the wall. It was repaired and won the Pikes Peak Hill Climb that year. It's accomplishment induced the Studebaker Board to authorize four identical models with corporate support, creating the five car entries in the 1932 500. All five were re-bodied for the 1933 500. No others were built or sponsored by Studebaker, though Studebaker engines continued to compete in other entries.
                          The original 1931 #37 was restored to 1931 spec by Stan Smith, Sr and Jr in Centre Hall, Pa and made its premiere at the 1981 Atlantic Zone Meet in Boalsburg, Pa. Stan,Jr sold it to Bob Valpey.
                          These photos from Boalsburg in 1981.
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                          I believe it is still owned by Bob valpey.

                          http://www.laconiadailysun.com/newsx...slugged-valpey
                          Tony G led 0 laps in 1931. He did hit the wall, but did not go over the wall. He and his riding mechanic were not seriously injured.
                          Last edited by jnormanh; 12-21-2015, 04:25 PM.

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                          • #14
                            That doesn't look like the Midway at all but Martha's daughter Albertina is still running the place in her eighties. I'm sure she could verify things. Place has quite a history and was a hangout of Al Capones during prohibition.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tjanowia View Post
                              That doesn't look like the Midway at all but Martha's daughter Albertina is still running the place in her eighties. I'm sure she could verify things. Place has quite a history and was a hangout of Al Capones during prohibition.
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                              Richard Quinn
                              Editor emeritus: Antique Studebaker Review

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