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ROADRACELARK
11-28-2007, 06:32 PM
Need to know if anyone has ever seen or heard of these wheels being offered as an option, either factory or dealer, in the early to mid 50's. Someone contacted me saying his dad said they were. He has a set of 5 with knock-offs, with adapters for Stude fitment. He says the outer rims are aluminum with chrome steel spokes. Any thoughts or coments?????

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tomnoller
11-28-2007, 07:10 PM
A set of these very wheels came with a '74 Avanti I bought a few years back. One began to knock and a wheel guy told me it could be fixed but would be pricey. I sold them on Craigslist and bought something from Summit. I believe there's a place in Ohio that refurbishes them. They were a bear to clean.

Western Washington, USA

tomnoller
11-28-2007, 07:10 PM
A set of these very wheels came with a '74 Avanti I bought a few years back. One began to knock and a wheel guy told me it could be fixed but would be pricey. I sold them on Craigslist and bought something from Summit. I believe there's a place in Ohio that refurbishes them. They were a bear to clean.

Western Washington, USA

N8N
11-28-2007, 07:16 PM
I believe they might have been an option on Avanti IIs. Dayton is the company that rebuilds them. Not sure if the optional wires really were Borranis though, or if they were knockoffs or bolt-ons.

I had some Jaguar wires on my '55 for a while (bought them because they were cheap, got 'em home and found that while the bolt pattern was off, so was the offset, so that they'd fit just about right with spacer/adapters) and they actually looked pretty good, but I sold them because they weren't really the look I was going for.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
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N8N
11-28-2007, 07:16 PM
I believe they might have been an option on Avanti IIs. Dayton is the company that rebuilds them. Not sure if the optional wires really were Borranis though, or if they were knockoffs or bolt-ons.

I had some Jaguar wires on my '55 for a while (bought them because they were cheap, got 'em home and found that while the bolt pattern was off, so was the offset, so that they'd fit just about right with spacer/adapters) and they actually looked pretty good, but I sold them because they weren't really the look I was going for.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

Dick Steinkamp
11-28-2007, 08:41 PM
Art sent me this photo to post...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/Crosasemprelei.jpg

He wanted to know if you mean something like the above.




http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/60%20Lark%204%20door/IMG_3996.jpg?t=1195958924
<h5>Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA</h5>

Dick Steinkamp
11-28-2007, 08:41 PM
Art sent me this photo to post...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/Crosasemprelei.jpg

He wanted to know if you mean something like the above.




http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/60%20Lark%204%20door/IMG_3996.jpg?t=1195958924
<h5>Dick Steinkamp
Bellingham, WA</h5>

rockne10
11-28-2007, 09:42 PM
I was pricing a new Avanti in the early 1970's and the Barroni's were an option, as were Recaro bucket seats. They would even upholster them to match your living room sofa if you wanted.

It's a judges nightmare; any option you wanted and no record of the build sheet.:(

Here's Barroni's website,
http://www.ruoteborrani.com/default2.asp

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
http://www.4wheelz.net/virtual/images/rockne/1928_rockne03_f820_th.jpg'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight

rockne10
11-28-2007, 09:42 PM
I was pricing a new Avanti in the early 1970's and the Barroni's were an option, as were Recaro bucket seats. They would even upholster them to match your living room sofa if you wanted.

It's a judges nightmare; any option you wanted and no record of the build sheet.:(

Here's Barroni's website,
http://www.ruoteborrani.com/default2.asp

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
http://www.4wheelz.net/virtual/images/rockne/1928_rockne03_f820_th.jpg'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight, '53 Commander Starlight

S2DSteve
11-28-2007, 10:24 PM
If they ever offered real wires in the 50's (and I don't think they did), it would have probably been the Kelsey Hayes wires that were used by some other companies, and were the inspiration for the wire wheel covers ("Speedster Wires")they did offer.

I do remember Borrani alloy wheels were the hot setup for dirt bikes back in the 60's & early 70's. Lighter and stronger than the steel wheels, but had a trough that collected mud and made 'em 10 times heavier.

BTW, that's an awesome picture of that Speedster!
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u57/S2DSteve/Convert010-1.jpg

Steve Hudson
The Dalles, Oregon
1937 Dictator Flatback sedan (for sale)
1949 "GMOBaker" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
1953 Champion Starliner (custom/rod project)
1954 Champion Coupe (daily driver)
1960 Hawk (future project?)

S2DSteve
11-28-2007, 10:24 PM
If they ever offered real wires in the 50's (and I don't think they did), it would have probably been the Kelsey Hayes wires that were used by some other companies, and were the inspiration for the wire wheel covers ("Speedster Wires")they did offer.

I do remember Borrani alloy wheels were the hot setup for dirt bikes back in the 60's & early 70's. Lighter and stronger than the steel wheels, but had a trough that collected mud and made 'em 10 times heavier.

BTW, that's an awesome picture of that Speedster!
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u57/S2DSteve/Convert010-1.jpg

Steve Hudson
The Dalles, Oregon
1937 Dictator Flatback sedan (for sale)
1949 "GMOBaker" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
1953 Champion Starliner (custom/rod project)
1954 Champion Coupe (daily driver)
1960 Hawk (future project?)

nels
11-28-2007, 10:26 PM
Studebaker used Dayton wire wheels on some of the show cars. I don't know if they were ever offered as a genuine option but there are plenty of factory photos showing them on cars.

nels
11-28-2007, 10:26 PM
Studebaker used Dayton wire wheels on some of the show cars. I don't know if they were ever offered as a genuine option but there are plenty of factory photos showing them on cars.

blackhawk61
11-28-2007, 10:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by S2DSteve

If they ever offered real wires in the 50's (and I don't think they did), it would have probably been the Kelsey Hayes wires that were used by some other companies, and were the inspiration for the wire wheel covers ("Speedster Wires")they did offer.






Like this Steve ?
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/wheel.jpg

1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/61HawkChevypartsmanreduce.jpg
Lewisville,NC

blackhawk61
11-28-2007, 10:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by S2DSteve

If they ever offered real wires in the 50's (and I don't think they did), it would have probably been the Kelsey Hayes wires that were used by some other companies, and were the inspiration for the wire wheel covers ("Speedster Wires")they did offer.






Like this Steve ?
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/wheel.jpg

1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/61HawkChevypartsmanreduce.jpg
Lewisville,NC

S2DSteve
11-29-2007, 12:26 AM
More like this, actually, but I think Nels is right, when they did use real wires they were probably Daytons. I still think the "lip laced" Kelsey Hays were the inspirations for the "Speedster" wheel covers
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u57/S2DSteve/Convert051.jpg

Steve Hudson
The Dalles, Oregon
1937 Dictator Flatback sedan (for sale)
1949 "GMOBaker" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
1953 Champion Starliner (custom/rod project)
1954 Champion Coupe (daily driver)
1960 Hawk (future project?)

S2DSteve
11-29-2007, 12:26 AM
More like this, actually, but I think Nels is right, when they did use real wires they were probably Daytons. I still think the "lip laced" Kelsey Hays were the inspirations for the "Speedster" wheel covers
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u57/S2DSteve/Convert051.jpg

Steve Hudson
The Dalles, Oregon
1937 Dictator Flatback sedan (for sale)
1949 "GMOBaker" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
1953 Champion Starliner (custom/rod project)
1954 Champion Coupe (daily driver)
1960 Hawk (future project?)

Michael
11-29-2007, 02:33 AM
Wire wheels by Borrani (knock-off type) were a $630 option on the 1953-54 Bill Frick Studillacs.

Michael Bostedt
Gavle, Sweden
- 1953 Champion Starliner
- 1953 Commander Starlight

Michael
11-29-2007, 02:33 AM
Wire wheels by Borrani (knock-off type) were a $630 option on the 1953-54 Bill Frick Studillacs.

Michael Bostedt
Gavle, Sweden
- 1953 Champion Starliner
- 1953 Commander Starlight

studegary
11-29-2007, 03:36 PM
Bob Bourke put knock off wire wheels (Borrani, I believe) on his personal 1954 Commander Starliner when it was new. They are still on the car. They were not a Studebaker factory option.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
11-29-2007, 03:36 PM
Bob Bourke put knock off wire wheels (Borrani, I believe) on his personal 1954 Commander Starliner when it was new. They are still on the car. They were not a Studebaker factory option.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

garyash
11-29-2007, 04:43 PM
You can still order the Boranni wheels from the original factory. You may need to fill a bag with $100 bills, but they sure look pretty.

See http://www.ruoteborrani.com/

[img=left]http://www.studegarage.com/images/gary_ash_m5_sm.jpg[/img=left] Gary Ash
Dartmouth, Mass.
'48 M5
'65 Wagonaire Commander
'63 Wagonaire Standard
web site at http://www.studegarage.com

garyash
11-29-2007, 04:43 PM
You can still order the Boranni wheels from the original factory. You may need to fill a bag with $100 bills, but they sure look pretty.

See http://www.ruoteborrani.com/

[img=left]http://www.studegarage.com/images/gary_ash_m5_sm.jpg[/img=left] Gary Ash
Dartmouth, Mass.
'48 M5
'65 Wagonaire Commander
'63 Wagonaire Standard
web site at http://www.studegarage.com

Green53
11-29-2007, 09:16 PM
As far a I know the Borrani's were only offered for a short time on Avanti 11's. I have two complete sets of Borrani's and run one set on my 64 Avanti. The later Avanti's used Dayton's that were not a true knock off wheel. I talked to the specialist from Dayton at the SEMA show. They restore Borrani's using stainless steel spokes. I didn't check prices this year but it was nearing $500 per wheel earlier. They are a bugger to keep clean but I really like their looks. I use the Eagle One two step cleaner on them. The cleaner is getting hard to find since Vavoline purchased Eagle One. The product is available at shows like Goodguys and World of Wheels.
Denny L

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Daytona64/53Stude2015.jpg

Green53
11-29-2007, 09:16 PM
As far a I know the Borrani's were only offered for a short time on Avanti 11's. I have two complete sets of Borrani's and run one set on my 64 Avanti. The later Avanti's used Dayton's that were not a true knock off wheel. I talked to the specialist from Dayton at the SEMA show. They restore Borrani's using stainless steel spokes. I didn't check prices this year but it was nearing $500 per wheel earlier. They are a bugger to keep clean but I really like their looks. I use the Eagle One two step cleaner on them. The cleaner is getting hard to find since Vavoline purchased Eagle One. The product is available at shows like Goodguys and World of Wheels.
Denny L

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Daytona64/53Stude2015.jpg

ralt12
11-29-2007, 09:46 PM
If anyone needs to have their wire wheels relaced, these folks to a fabulous job:
http://www.buchananspokes.com/aboutus.htm

Not related, etc...

'53 Commander

ralt12
11-29-2007, 09:46 PM
If anyone needs to have their wire wheels relaced, these folks to a fabulous job:
http://www.buchananspokes.com/aboutus.htm

Not related, etc...

'53 Commander