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vegas_vintage
10-01-2006, 03:56 PM
ok, still a new studebaker owner and i just walked outside to see the gas tank leaking. not sure if it's just a seal or anything like that, but i need to know the best procedure.
i have no idea if the gas tank is original or not and i don't know if it's replaceable with standard gas tanks.

should i just go get it checked out to see if it's a seal?
it's sunday so all places are closed

help!!!

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri


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Scott
10-01-2006, 04:01 PM
It might be good to know how full your tank is at this point. Did you fill up? Some leaks don't show up until you get more than half full.

vegas_vintage
10-01-2006, 04:23 PM
Yes, I just filled up this morning, but I've had gas in it all week and this is the first time it's done this. It was fine this morning.
My dad thinks it might be a hose leak or something..?

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri


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JDP
10-01-2006, 05:01 PM
The only "seal" is a gasket under the fuel gage setting unit. That part can be seen by lifting the little disk in the front on the trunk floor. Other leak spots are the small rubber hose to the fuel line (if present) The big hose from the gas filler tube, or a pin hole rust area in the tank. Your tank is unique to Studebaker, but it's the source of the leak, it can be repaired.

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Rosstude
10-01-2006, 05:07 PM
Take a look underneath, check the hose from the filler neck. Then look inside under the spare tire, there is a round hole that should have a cover, to access the sending unit, it may be leaking. Each of these is an easy fix. If the tank really has a hole in it, it will leak until the gas is below the level of the hole. My experience with the hose and sender is that factors like a full tank, a hot day causing pressure, will cause a temporary leak, and or a "smell" in the garage.
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Ross.
Riverside, Ca.
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rockne10
10-01-2006, 05:13 PM
First, be sure it's not just coming out the top of the filler neck. A full tank and fuel expansion can be quickly dismissed. There's a rubber hose between the filler neck and the tank that could be cracked. The tank itself could be rusted through and the fuel line from the tank could be rusted.
Do not panic until you've jacked up the car and looked underneath to determine the real situation and then, don't panic. The worst case would be a rusted tank and that's fixable. There are several threads on this forum about self-repair and professional tank services. Gas tanks are rare and I've seen them resurrected when only the bottom half existed.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
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51 Commander Starlight
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vegas_vintage
10-01-2006, 05:17 PM
thanks thanks thanks! you've eased my mind! my dad is coming over to help look at it in a few hours.
good things is it has stopped leaking, and it only leaked probably one gallon, so.. hopefully it's not the tank, and easily repairable.
the car doesn't have any rust on it anywhere, so i highly doubt it's a rusted tank (it's been very well preserved) so, i really think it discounts the tank.
but.. i will find out soon enough. thank you all so much! i'm so happy there are smarter people out there! ;)

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri


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rockne10
10-01-2006, 05:24 PM
Danielle,
If it does turn out to be the filler neck hose, a straight piece from your local auto parts store will not work. The filler hose has a slight angle and a straight piece will kink when you try to install it. The correct hose is available from Studebaker vendors.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
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previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

bradnree
10-01-2006, 09:00 PM
I bought a new tank from one of the Stude. vendors, and it was faster and about as cheap as messing with the old tank. All of the above comments are very good advice. Sight from the spot on the floor up to the tank and it may give you a clue. Mine leaks out the filler if I take on too much gas and sit on an incline......Brad

Tom B
10-01-2006, 09:34 PM
My 60 Lark had set for 28 years, the first time I filled it up, it leaked, scared me, then I found it was the Sender hole, under the hole in the trunk. My lark has a solid fill pipe, no rubber connector.

Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'60 Lark VI
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
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Transtar60
10-02-2006, 12:18 AM
Her car should have the metal tube filler neck also.
Mine leaked around the joint to the tank(car had been hit on the rear panel during a P.O.'s ownership).
Fortunately, SASCO had new tanks in stock back then(1999).


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vegas_vintage
10-02-2006, 01:13 PM
It was actually leaking from the tank near the front of the car, so it might be coming from where it actually leaves the gas tank. But still not sure, haven't been able to get it up on a rack yet. Hopefully today or tomorrow, but it's not leaking anymore which is good!
It's not leaking from the filler neck for sure. So, we'll see.

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri


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Skip Lackie
10-02-2006, 01:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by vegas_vintage

good things is it has stopped leaking, and it only leaked probably one gallon, so.. hopefully it's not the tank, and easily repairable.
the car doesn't have any rust on it anywhere, so i highly doubt it's a rusted tank (it's been very well preserved) so, i really think it discounts the tank.

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri



A rust-free body doesn't necessarily imply a rust-free gas tank. Rusty fenders are caused by frequent driving in inclement weather. Gas tank rust is caused when water condenses inside a gas tank and settles to the bottom of the tank. This usually only happens when a car sits for a long time without being driven, especially in areas with high humidity (Missouri?). In other words, the very conditions that prevent rust in the body can cause rust in the gas tank. :( Fortunately, replacements tanks for your car, both new and used, are readily available.:)
Skip Lackie

Roscomacaw
10-03-2006, 08:31 PM
Given what you've told us, I'd wager it's a bad gasket on the sending unit. If it only leaked when you filled it and it stopped after some leaked out, the only high place it could leak from would be that sending unit.;) That thing sit's on top of the tank in a bit of an indentation. Sorta to the front of the tank as well, so that sounds like the source of the leak.[^]

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vegas_vintage
10-03-2006, 09:04 PM
quote:

A rust-free body doesn't necessarily imply a rust-free gas tank. Rusty fenders are caused by frequent driving in inclement weather. Gas tank rust is caused when water condenses inside a gas tank and settles to the bottom of the tank. This usually only happens when a car sits for a long time without being driven, especially in areas with high humidity (Missouri?). In other words, the very conditions that prevent rust in the body can cause rust in the gas tank. :( Fortunately, replacements tanks for your car, both new and used, are readily available.:)
Skip Lackie


Where can you get replacement tanks? I would appreciate it!
Thanks!

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri


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vegas_vintage
10-05-2006, 09:43 AM
New Studebaker Tanks? How much do they run, and where can you buy them?

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri


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Scott
10-05-2006, 10:09 AM
SASCO in South Bend would be likely to have some. You could also try Parmer Studebaker in southern Iowa. He probably will have a good used one. His number is 641-445-5692. Ask for Eddie. I'm not sure about price.

studegary
10-05-2006, 06:18 PM
I wouldn't be looking into getting a replacement tank until you determine exactly where your gasoline leak is emanating from. I believe that you will discover that the leak is at the gauge sending unit. A new tank won't come with this unit or gasket, so you would not cure the problem that way. Take off the small inspection/service cover from the trunk floor and look in there.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

Roscomacaw
10-05-2006, 09:42 PM
What Gary said. Don't order a new tank without properly diagnosing the ailment[B)]

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1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

vegas_vintage
10-05-2006, 11:28 PM
It's coming out of the seam in the middle of the tank. I will post a picture tomorrow, But it's not coming out of any hose or tube, it's coming directly out of the gas tank. I will patch it with JB weld temporarily. But i think in the future a new gas tank would be a smart thing to keep in mind.

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri


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StudeDave57
10-06-2006, 12:35 AM
I'd check just to be sure is not running down to that seem from an area above--- like the sending unit seal...
One of my cars does that. :(
I still love that pic, BTW!!!


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Skip Lackie
10-06-2006, 09:02 AM
quote:Originally posted by vegas_vintage

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Where can you get replacement tanks? I would appreciate it!
Thanks!

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri




In answer to your question, new tanks are available from SASCO (www.studeparts.com). Part number 1547266, $123.60 plus shipping. But like everybody has said, don't buy a new tank until you know exactly where it's leaking from. It could very well be leaking from the sending unit gasket and running down to the seam. Remove the access plate in the floor of the trunk and look to see if the gas is leaking from around the sending unit. A new sending unit gasket would be a lot cheaper than a new tank and MUCH easier to replace. You may not need a new tank.
Skip Lackie

CHAMP
10-06-2006, 09:58 AM
That picture in your post would have made a good Studebaker comercial If thats not a natural Studebaker high, there is none![8D]

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rockne10
10-06-2006, 10:18 PM
As these tanks become rarer and, eventually, irreplaceable, rather than using up what little stock is left, consider the gas tank sealing products available from POR-15 or Eastwood. If you do buy a new tank DO NOT, DO NOT discard the old one.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
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previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

vegas_vintage
10-07-2006, 11:45 AM
:D everytime i drive that car i'm smiling like in my pic.
i love that car and it hasn't worn off yet. guess it will always be like that, but what a way to drive a car!!! :D

** danielle m. **

Springfield, Missouri


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Roscomacaw
10-09-2006, 12:48 AM
Danielle,
Don't know if you're aware of it, but Studebaker used the slogan: Love that Lark! as an advertisment. That could be the caption of this picture you use.;)

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1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe