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warrlaw1
07-13-2015, 05:29 PM
OK. My buddy, Kent, has graciously allowed me to photograph his Speedster, previously owned by Bob and Nancy Smith of London Ontario. It is not for sale. Because of the low body tub #, I think it may be one of the original show cars. Paul Revell would know (55s). He has it's doppleganger.

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warrlaw1
07-13-2015, 05:37 PM
Tag 1826. Sorry about the triple post, I'll try to get these shots posted. My pig of a computer doesn't seen compatible with Studebakers

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warrlaw1
07-13-2015, 05:45 PM
My beer is calling my name, trying again....

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Flashback
07-13-2015, 05:54 PM
Cool pictures. Thanks for taking the time to post these. Very interesting.

8E45E
07-13-2015, 06:11 PM
Tag 1826. Sorry about the triple post, I'll try to get these shots posted. My pig of a computer doesn't seen compatible with Studhttp://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=45656&d=1436823325

I see the sign states 15 sold new in Canada. '55 Studeman' stated 12 sold new in Canada: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?81703-Speedster-1955-exported&highlight=speedster+cuba

Craig

warrlaw1
07-13-2015, 06:21 PM
LOL. Take it up with the sign painter or his editor.

57pack
07-13-2015, 06:22 PM
Very nice 1955's! Thank you for posting all those gorgeous photos!:!:
I didn't like the 1955s when they were new, was happy dad had a 54. But now I really like those 55 Speedsters!
Maybe my next Studebaker project, if I live long enough!:eek:

63t-cab
07-13-2015, 08:31 PM
Dave, You mention possible show car? would the colors have been split at the scallop that way ? different look to it than the usual,I kinda like how it's done when when all three Colors are seen at once :!:

OK. My buddy, Kent, has graciously allowed me to photograph his Speedster, previously owned by Bob and Nancy Smith of London Ontario. It is not for sale. Because of the low body tub #, I think it may be one of the original show cars. Paul Revell would know (55s). He has it's doppleganger.

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mbstude
07-13-2015, 08:34 PM
The factory show cars have K5 bodies.

Looks like a pretty nice car! Speedsters are one of my favorites. Especially when they aren't green and yellow.

warrlaw1
07-13-2015, 08:34 PM
I think Paul Revell can answer that. He has one. Calling 55s.

SN-60
07-13-2015, 08:54 PM
Nice job on the photos Dave....I especially like the one with your '55 Commander parked next to this Speedster.

As Joe mentioned, the tu-tone paint work on the lower body is unusual and looks, to me anyway, kind of dramatic.....I LIKE it!

This Speedster was included in Bob Johannessen's 1993 Speedster roster, apparently the Smith's purchased this car in 1986.

The car was sold new in Simcoe, Ontario, Canada.

President Speedster serial# 7168799, Body # 6HK7-1826 had approx 40,735 miles on it in 1993. :)

DEEPNHOCK
07-13-2015, 08:55 PM
You can edit your own post...
Select 'edit' and then select 'advanced'
You can remove the 'unwanted photos, or change them, change the text, and even change the header...

SN-60
07-13-2015, 08:57 PM
Any other 1955 President Speedsters 'lurking' out there?....Post them on the Studebaker Forum! :!:

55s
07-13-2015, 09:23 PM
I believe all of the 14 original show cars were lemon lime. Mine is serial 7150002 and has engine P-102. They were a President K-5 body instead of K-7. Another member, Terry, owns number 5. The unusual features for the show cars included leather door panels & headliner (vinyl on production models), and some slightly different prototype badges.

Bob and Nancy Smith's car was a nice solid car. It is not a factory show car. The scallop paint job is not factory correct, but it made it "go faster" for Bob. (My dad always liked chrome reverse wheels.)

63t-cab
07-13-2015, 09:32 PM
Ed the more I think about it, what if Studebaker had "Speedster specific" stainless dividing two Colors around the scallop. just the right amount,or to much bling :confused: I'm leaning towards "would do the Speedster justice" :!:

Nice job on the photos Dave....I especially like the one with your '55 Commander parked next to this Speedster.

As Joe mentioned, the tu-tone paint work on the lower body is unusual and looks, to me anyway, kind of dramatic.....I LIKE it!

This Speedster was included in Bob Johannessen's 1993 Speedster roster, apparently the Smith's purchased this car in 1986.

The car was sold new in Simcoe, Ontario, Canada.

President Speedster serial# 7168799, Body # 6HK7-1826 had approx 40,735 miles on it in 1993. :)

Studebaker Wheel
07-13-2015, 10:02 PM
"Because of the low body tub #, I think it may be one of the original show cars."

To the contrary, this Speedster was a late production vehicle having been assembled on July 13, 1955 (last one assembled on 9-26-55). However you are correct about it being a show car. It was shipped to Windsor, Ontario for the Canadian National Exhibition. As you noted it was serial number 7168799. The paint code was 2677 which was the Shasta White/Pimlico Gray combination introduced on 3-29-55. A total of 307 were painted in this combination (267 in S.B. and 40 in L.A.) You might want to peruse my article on the Speedster in the October 1998 issue of Collectible Automobile and also a considerable amount of additional information in my Almanac column in Turning Wheels for September 1998.

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55s
07-13-2015, 11:10 PM
"Because of the low body tub #, I think it may be one of the original show cars."

To the contrary, this Speedster was a late production vehicle having been assembled on July 13, 1955 (last one assembled on 9-26-55). However you are correct about it being a show car. It was shipped to Windsor, Ontario for the Canadian National Exhibition. As you noted it was serial number 7168799. The paint code was 2677 which was the Shasta White/Pimlico Gray combination introduced on 3-29-55. A total of 307 were painted in this combination (267 in S.B. and 40 in L.A.) You might want to peruse my article on the Speedster in the October 1998 issue of Collectible Automobile and also a considerable amount of additional information in my Almanac column in Turning Wheels for September 1998.

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So, Richard, can you tell me where prototype car number 2 of 14 was sold? It was purchased by my dad in London, Ontario in 1962. Any additional information would be appreciated.

Studebaker Wheel
07-14-2015, 05:08 AM
All of the first 14 were painted in the Hialeah Green Sun Valley Yellow combination. Sorry but there is no notation on the p.o. to establish a destination for 7150002. The archive records for specific dealer sales do not go back to 1954. The only way of determining this is if it is listed on the p.o. and only 2 of the first 14 have anything specific in that box.

warrlaw1
07-14-2015, 09:00 AM
Thank you DeepnHock and Hasdouk for cleaning up my post. And thank you Paul, Richard, et al for the history. The owner, Kent, had a history with SDC through his father. With time he may tell me more. Thank you all.

8E45E
07-14-2015, 09:32 AM
The owner, Kent, had a history with SDC through his father. With time he may tell me more.

I hope he comes forth with more. Its an interesting thread so far.

Craig

DEEPNHOCK
07-14-2015, 10:07 AM
Yessir! It is an interesting thread!


I hope he comes forth with more. Its an interesting thread so far.

Craig


http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by warrlaw1 http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png
(http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?p=931264#post931264)The owner, Kent, had a history with SDC through his father. With time he may tell me more.

warrlaw1
07-14-2015, 10:21 AM
Richard, just a note on the CNE (Canadian National Exhibition). It is Canada's largest fair, circus, party....... and was around when I was born in 1952. I was probably in attendance if this car was there in 55. As children we were encouraged to fill our piggy banks so we could go to the "Ex". Mother always took us at least for one day. It was where we first saw stunt drivers (known as Hell Drivers) driving on two wheels. It starts late August in Toronto, each year, and has been attended by the Queen's sister (Princess Margaret). One gate is named for her. Cheers.

DEEPNHOCK
07-14-2015, 10:28 AM
Oh, I would have paid a bunch to see the Queen's sister up on two wheels in a Studebaker.... (Sorry, I get easily distracted:whome:)


Richard, just a note on the CNE (Canadian National Exhibition). It is Canada's largest fair, circus, party....... and was around when I was born in 1952. I was probably in attendance if this car was there in 55. As children we were encouraged to fill our piggy banks so we could go to the "Ex". Mother always took us at least for one day. It was where we first saw stunt drivers (known as Hell Drivers) driving on two wheels. It starts late August in Toronto, each year, and has been attended by the Queen's sister (Princess Margaret). One gate is named for her. Cheers.

Buzzard
07-14-2015, 11:42 AM
Thanks for the great post. Nice shorts! Lovely cars too.
Bill

warrlaw1
07-14-2015, 12:11 PM
LOL, Bill. I didn't think about the reflections in the stainless. My dog (JRT) was harassing Kent's dog (half blind Lab) and I was trying to catch the important shots of the Speedster. If you look at that butter knife stainless, the Speedster script is on the stainless and the round Speedster icon look different from others I've seen. Could have been altered during a resto?

6hk71400
07-14-2015, 02:25 PM
My car 6hk71400 was assembled on 4/22/1955 which is before this car but has a higher body tag, so I guess this proves that body tag is not in a sequential order. Somewhere along the line, the paint was modified as mine is just the two tone but with the typical speedster paint break. Mixed feeling on the scallop paint mod.

Bob Miles
Tucson AZ

6hk71400
07-14-2015, 02:38 PM
Is he still talking about the 2 Packard Executive cars? Here is my post from the earlier thread: The 56 Packard Executive was a 3 month run using a Senior Front clip with the hooded 56 fenders and the Custom Clipper rear body. It used a 352 CID instead of the senior Packard 374.It was a last gasp at trying anything to up Packard production and to fill the gap between the Clipper and Senior Packard.

Some came with the electronic push button shift; they can be fun (!) to work on. No sense comparing values between the Speedster and the Executive, or even two of them. The same problems that some have with the 56 Golden Hawk are the same with the Executive, namely Ultramatic Transmission, Oil Pump failure and lifter problems. In addition add in 60 year old suspension age on the Torsion Bar suspension and the price to repair if you are not handy to do the work yourself.

I used to own a 56 2 door hardtop with manual windows but decided to stay with Studebaker. The power windows are another sore spot as the shaft that powers the window is drilled with a screw and prone to breakage.

Bob Miles
Tucson AZ

warrlaw1
07-14-2015, 02:50 PM
Yes, Bob, he seems to be really interested in Packards. If he has access to a computer I will encourage him to sign in and ask away. I'm not giving any advice, other than to keep that Speedster on the road. They have to be driven. I guess when the previous owners had the car it had 40,000 miles and now it has but 64,000. In between I think there's been some paint work. Other than that it needs some brake work and a rubber kit would really dress it up like new. It should be on display somewhere. It's almost too nice to drive.

warrlaw1
07-31-2015, 06:31 PM
Good news. Kent stopped in and the car is coming to cruise night, tomorrow. More pics to come.

warrlaw1
08-01-2015, 08:58 PM
I was the only Stude for the first hour. Kato was otherwise committed with his new 62 GT. Along comes a sweet burgundy and white 58 Silver Hawk. Gord McClelland made the drive from Ingersol, Ont with his Canadian made, 6 cyl O.D. Silver Hawk. Then along came Kent to show off the Speedster. We finally had the three of them together and people appreciated them. Kent's show car, my race car (lol), and Gord's hyper miler. Forgot the camera. Doh!

hobiejack11
08-01-2015, 09:34 PM
I was interested in the remark about the Dual Range Ultramatic being fun to work on. I worked on every automatic transmission starting with the early Hydramatics, Dynaflows, cast iron Powerglides and Fordamatics, Dual Range Hydramatics, Jetaways. Slimjims, anyway you get the idea. The only transmission that ever beat me was a Dual Range Ultramatic out of a 56 Packard. I had an uncle who was as good a transmission man as I ever knew and it beat him to. Neither one of us could get it to shift properly. The two brothers we worked for ended up taking it to the auction. When I look back on it I think it must have had a crack in the case somewhere between the side valve body and the governor. I pray that I never see another one of them again.

SN-60
08-02-2015, 09:04 AM
I was interested in the remark about the Dual Range Ultramatic being fun to work on. I worked on every automatic transmission starting with the early Hydramatics, Dynaflows, cast iron Powerglides and Fordamatics, Dual Range Hydramatics, Jetaways. Slimjims, anyway you get the idea. The only transmission that ever beat me was a Dual Range Ultramatic out of a 56 Packard. I had an uncle who was as good a transmission man as I ever knew and it beat him to. Neither one of us could get it to shift properly. The two brothers we worked for ended up taking it to the auction. When I look back on it I think it must have had a crack in the case somewhere between the side valve body and the governor. I pray that I never see another one of them again.

Yes, for the Packard Club, which prides itself on authenticity, to give its blessing to transmission conversions (Chrysler, GM) in '55 -'56 V8 Packards, REALLY has to tell you something!! ;)