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rew
06-14-2015, 12:02 AM
Anyone have an idea where I might get a oil pan for my 259 engine. Studebaker International has (no pic) one for a V8 Commander 1964-65, but part number doesn't match my number in my parts catalog.. Will all these Studebaker V8 259-289 pans work? Any help or suggestions???

candbstudebakers
06-14-2015, 02:00 AM
Your pan might be the 6 Qt. style and that is why the different number, I have one left. they came on 55 engines. I also have the others.

Flashback
06-14-2015, 09:38 AM
I think I have a 55 pan and I know I have a six qt. What you puttin' it in?

rew
06-14-2015, 09:40 AM
Candbstudebakers, I sent you a PM.. How can I get in touch with you?? Thanks

rew
06-14-2015, 09:41 AM
Its going in my E7 '55 PU. I was told the 259 came out of a Commander but don't know the year

JoeHall
06-14-2015, 09:53 AM
Apparently the 6 quart pan was standard issue on full flow Stude V8s, because I believe every one I ever owned took 6 quarts to refill, when doing and oil & filter change.

jrlemke
06-14-2015, 11:25 AM
My '61 Hawk is 6qt. Stock 289. owners manual says 6qt. also. -Jim

Buzzard
06-14-2015, 09:15 PM
Move to Canada and you are dealing with Imperial quarts, not US.
Bill

Jerry Forrester
06-14-2015, 10:27 PM
Get one from Tex, (flashback). He's closer to you than anyone else.

candbstudebakers
06-15-2015, 01:52 AM
Apparently the 6 quart pan was standard issue on full flow Stude V8s, because I believe every one I ever owned took 6 quarts to refill, when doing and oil & filter change.

I never have seen one on a full flow engine and pulled a lot of engines from cars on the on the 55's have I seen them, I just sold a 55 president state 4 door and it had one.

JoeHall
06-15-2015, 10:02 AM
Bob,
I haven't pulled many Stude V8s to scrap/sell, but have did many oil changes on them. Both current GTs, and the motor I swapped out a few years ago, now sitting in a corner, all have 6 quart oil pans.

Have you ever actually measured one for capacity? Or is there some sort of visual cue, you are going by, that differentiates 5 from 6 quart pans?

Thanks,
Joe H

Bob Langer
06-15-2015, 10:34 AM
Apparently the 6 quart pan was standard issue on full flow Stude V8s, because I believe every one I ever owned took 6 quarts to refill, when doing and oil & filter change.

The capacity of the pan is 5 quarts and 1 quart for the filter. The R-3 and R-4 used a pan with 6 quart capacity.

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TX Rebel
06-15-2015, 02:11 PM
I recently parted a 62 GT with a 6 qt pan, but it turned out to be a 259 engine from a '55.
I have 5 & 6 qt pans in stock

Jerry Forrester
06-15-2015, 08:19 PM
It's very easy to tell the difference between a 5 and a 6 quart pan. The sump on a 6 quart pan is almost twice as long as a 5 quart pan.

candbstudebakers
06-16-2015, 02:35 AM
It's very easy to tell the difference between a 5 and a 6 quart pan. The sump on a 6 quart pan is almost twice as long as a 5 quart pan.

That's right , and when looking at them you can see the real difference, can't find my camera today or would have taken a picture, check the parts book for 55 and you should see 2 different pan numbers, not so with other years.

StudeRich
06-16-2015, 03:05 AM
There is NO mystery here Guys, any 1951 to 1955 Stude. V8 that does NOT have a 6 Qt. Oil pan, and any normal (non-R3-R4) 1956 to 1964 That does NOT have a 5 Qt. Oil Pan and their appropriate Dipsticks is not correct.

It makes no difference which Year Car it ends up in.

Keep in mind that not many V8's would have the wrong Oil Pan, since they will not work correctly without changing the Oil Pickup Tube, and 1955's had their own one-off Oil pump.

JoeHall
06-16-2015, 07:44 AM
Rich,
I know you are our recognized expert on parts books and part numbers, but sometimes Stude parts books do not match real world experiences. So far on this post, we have a guy with a 6 quart pan on his 61 Hawk, and I have three engines from GT Hawks with 6 quart pans. I seriously doubt the other poster of myself cannot count to 6, and I seriously doubt all four pans just happen to be from 1955 motors.

Perhaps we are both just lying, but why would we be doing that?

BILT4ME
06-16-2015, 11:31 AM
Anyone have an idea where I might get a oil pan for my 259 engine. Studebaker International has (no pic) one for a V8 Commander 1964-65, but part number doesn't match my number in my parts catalog.. Will all these Studebaker V8 259-289 pans work? Any help or suggestions???

I have (3) oil pans in my garage that I need to sell. I was told they are from a 1955 289, but that may not be correct. Do you have dimensions of the pan you need? I can take pics and dim's and post them if you are interested. What is your urgency?

Alan
06-16-2015, 12:52 PM
rew; You might want to put up a pic. of the pan you have, since there were a number of styles over the years. And as I have found that with filter size and dipstick readings, people could put 6 quarts of oil in a 5 quart bag.

RadioRoy
06-16-2015, 01:23 PM
I have (3) oil pans in my garage that I need to sell. I was told they are from a 1955 289, but that may not be correct. Do you have dimensions of the pan you need? I can take pics and dim's and post them if you are interested. What is your urgency?

Not meaning to be a nit picking sh*t stirrer, but there is no such thing as a 1955 289, so whomever told you that was incorrect.

And to clarify the original post, the 65-66 V-8 pans are for Chevrolet engines.

BILT4ME
06-16-2015, 02:17 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what he told me, I didn't believe it, but didn't bother to worry about research, as I figured it would work itself out.

I dunno, they were free, I was in my "save everything Studebaker" mode, and now I need to get sh*t out of my garage.

I'm using what I need and getting rid of the rest, whether it is to someone who needs it or the metal recycler.

Studebakercenteroforegon
06-16-2015, 05:32 PM
Rich,
I know you are our recognized expert on parts books and part numbers, but sometimes Stude parts books do not match real world experiences. So far on this post, we have a guy with a 6 quart pan on his 61 Hawk, and I have three engines from GT Hawks with 6 quart pans. I seriously doubt the other poster of myself cannot count to 6, and I seriously doubt all four pans just happen to be from 1955 motors.
Perhaps we are both just lying, but why would we be doing that?

What you are calling a 6 quart pan is really a 5 quart pan, and then an additional quart is required for the filter change. Likewise, the early 6 quart pans required the additional quart with a filter change, thus 7 quarts for a total oil change. Look at a 232 cubic inch V-8 oil pan when you have the chance, and the increased sump size will be very noticeable.