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Hawklover
03-17-2015, 10:21 PM
The oil pressure relief valve in my car has never been serviced, the car has 120K miles and holds good oil pressure of 45 lbs at hiway speeds, should I remove and clean?

jclary
03-17-2015, 10:50 PM
I don't think it is a matter of "fixing." It is a matter of "servicing." Unless you are a complete fumble-finger, prone to drop, and lose parts, it is not that difficult. If you have a shop manual, and can follow instructions, it should be a doable task. Like changing an oil filter, air filter, points, replacing spark plugs, or greasing a lubrication point...just another service item with a recommended maintenance interval.

TWChamp
03-18-2015, 01:59 AM
If the engine has used detergent oil and had regular oil changes, I'd think the valve would be very clean.

rockne10
03-18-2015, 03:18 AM
It can never hurt to do this "recommended" service. The proper functioning of the release valve controls lubrication to the timing gears, otherwise avoided by main oil passages. You can't imagine how many of the fiber gears have failed, and left folks stranded on the highway (myself more than twice), because a simple service was ignored. Oil pressure in the block does not guarantee everything needing lubrication is happy. If it could survive forever without occasional service, occasional service would not have been recommended.

Hawklover
03-18-2015, 09:03 AM
From when the car was almost new the oil and filter were changed every 1000 miles. Now that the car is only driven maybe 500 miles per year, I try to change the oil and filter two times per year......just when the car goes to sleep for the winter, then in the spring when it wakes up:-) And the car has always had HD oil utilized.
If the engine has used detergent oil and had regular oil changes, I'd think the valve would be very clean.

DEEPNHOCK
03-18-2015, 10:58 AM
Yes. You should service this valve.
Clean the bore with a new 1/2" (iirc) drill bit (turning by hand with your fingers).
Clean the piston (or replace it with new).

This should be a 'must do' for everyone.
Choice of oil matters not.

Think of it this way...
If the piston sticks in one position, you could have low oil pressure.
If the piston sticks the other way, you could have high oil pressure, with no releif.
A cold start on a crisp morning and your old fiber cam gear could fail, or your oil pump/distributor gear pin could shear.

Good maintenance is a must.

Hawklover
03-18-2015, 01:24 PM
Jeff, how often should this be effectuated?
Yes. You should service this valve.
Clean the bore with a new 1/2" (iirc) drill bit (turning by hand with your fingers).
Clean the piston (or replace it with new).

This should be a 'must do' for everyone.
Choice of oil matters not.

Think of it this way...
If the piston sticks in one position, you could have low oil pressure.
If the piston sticks the other way, you could have high oil pressure, with no releif.
A cold start on a crisp morning and your old fiber cam gear could fail, or your oil pump/distributor gear pin could shear.

Good maintenance is a must.

DEEPNHOCK
03-18-2015, 04:53 PM
Jeff, how often should this be effectuated?

IIRC, the good book (Studebaker Service Manual) recommends every other year.
And if you do service it regularly, then it won't get glued in place over time....

Hawklover
03-18-2015, 06:16 PM
Guess I have been fortunate........50 years and have never done it:-)
IIRC, the good book (Studebaker Service Manual) recommends every other year.
And if you do service it regularly, then it won't get glued in place over time....

Flashback
03-18-2015, 08:56 PM
I just freshened up a 45K R1 engine going in my 53. It looked almost new inside. BUT, I put in a new valve and spring while I was in it. You ask WHY? Because as much as Jeff recommends this, I was scared not to. I was afraid next time I saw him he might skin me up a little if he found out. LOL LOL LOL.

DEEPNHOCK
03-19-2015, 12:17 AM
I just freshened up a 45K R1 engine going in my 53. It looked almost new inside. BUT, I put in a new valve and spring while I was in it. You ask WHY? Because as much as Jeff recommends this, I was scared not to. I was afraid next time I saw him he might skin me up a little if he found out. LOL LOL LOL.

<LOL>...
To tell the truth... I could care less if people don't care for their Studebakers.
Unless I am buying one, or fixing one.
But the pressure regulator piston and spring comes up so often on the forum.
Must be something there.
I know people that have driven 100,000 miles on the original tires, with the original air in them.
Great!
But is that the norm? I think not.
And if I am to be remembered as the local village idiot that espoused good maintenance and safe practices....
I can live with that.

bezhawk
03-19-2015, 11:18 AM
Wait a doggone minute there buster. You may have to fight me for that village idiot title!

jclary
03-19-2015, 11:21 AM
Wait a doggone minute there buster. You may have to fight me for that village idiot title!

Considering all the "Villages" represented here...plenty of room for more than one.:rolleyes::lol: