PDA

View Full Version : New to the forum with a '61 Lark



blueskies
11-19-2014, 06:27 PM
New to the forum and to Studebaker... I posted an intro here. (http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?59851-LOTS-of-new-Studebaker-owners-Lately-welcome!-Post-Here&p=882399&viewfull=1#post882399)

I bought a '61 Lark from forum member 61LaRk4dr (http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/member.php?1269-61LaRk4dr) through Ebay, as a father/son project. My son and I made the trip from Idaho to California to pick up the car, a 1,400 mile whirlwind tour.

Very happy with the car, and can't wait to dive in to making it a safe and reliable daily driver.

Picking up the car at Brian's place-
http://www.oldwillysforum.com/Lark/PickupTrip/lark01.jpg


Somewhere in Oregon-
http://www.oldwillysforum.com/Lark/PickupTrip/lark24.jpg

Home to a nippy 9 degrees-
http://www.oldwillysforum.com/Lark/PickupTrip/lark30.jpg

Pete

qsanford
11-19-2014, 06:40 PM
Good luck with a great car! I love the '61s and their many improvements over the previous models.

Corvanti
11-19-2014, 07:22 PM
welcome, Pete! i really like the "two-eyed" Larks.:!:

keep us posted on your progress - with plenty of pics, of course!!!;)

BobPalma
11-19-2014, 07:24 PM
Welcome aboard; that looks like a sweet Lark.

'Got plenty of anti-freeze in it for the colder temps? ;) :cool: BP

Lou Van Anne
11-19-2014, 07:54 PM
How does she like the change of climate?

StudeRich
11-19-2014, 07:58 PM
That is a Great looking '61 Lark VI Deluxe with a super Color! :!:

Excellent advice about the Anti-Freeze, many Calif. Cars have little or no -37 degree protection.

rockne10
11-19-2014, 08:13 PM
Nice, nice, nice! :!:
This looks like it may well need nothing to be a driver!
However, to err on the side of safety, please satisfy yourself and your passengers with a tried and true checklist.

Things to do once you've bought that Studebaker.
http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/TechThings2do.asp

blueskies
11-19-2014, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome-


Welcome aboard; that looks like a sweet Lark.

'Got plenty of anti-freeze in it for the colder temps? ;) :cool: BP


How does she like the change of climate?

The Lark doesn't like the climate change much... I checked the ant-freeze before leaving California, and it is good for -7... Working on getting more in there, I posted about it here (http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?85267-Engine-running-cold-Thermostat).

It was about 9 degrees when I got it home, and it refused to start to get it off the trailer. Had to push it off. Once the temps warmed a bit, it fired up and ran ok, but took a looong time to warm up. Couldn't get the thermostat to cycle though, as seen in the link above.


Nice, nice, nice! :!:
This looks like it may well need nothing to be a driver!
However, to err on the side of safety, please satisfy yourself and your passengers with a tried and true checklist.

Things to do once you've bought that Studebaker.
http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/TechThings2do.asp

Thanks for the checklist link... I will be going over the car with a fine tooth comb, and taking care of any "issues" it may have to be a daily. It needs a bunch of little things, some weather stripping, maybe a carb rebuild, some brake work, etc. But not much, compared to past projects like this (http://www.50plymouth.com/02-hom/home.html) and a current project like this (http://www.oldwillysforum.com/forum/showthread.php?2989-Joseph-s-51-Wagon-Build).

Pete

61LaRk4dr
11-20-2014, 01:51 AM
Hello Pete,

Good to see that you made it over here. Welcome to the forum and thank you for the pictures. You have a good bunch of people here to help you out with any questions that you have. You might even find some older posts that I had concerning the vehicle in here. I guess I am going to have to change my user name now, since I no longer own a 1961 Lark.

blkstu60
11-20-2014, 07:46 AM
Good looking Lark. Wish mine looked half as good. Might also close the choke a little tighter. I had to with mine. Mine is a 6 also. These Cats know their Studys. I have had a bunch of help already from them. I am new also.

unclemiltie
11-20-2014, 08:03 AM
I have a 61 plain jane 2 door with OHV 6 and overdrive. I enjoy driving the car and it is comfortable. You will have many happy hours with your car.

studeclunker
11-20-2014, 09:35 PM
Looks like a great car! Don't know why, but I picture an old lady with Hat and white pearl-buttoned gloves getting out of it. Sorry, the car is just a sweet old lady, what can I say? Is that frost or goose-pimples on the car in the last photo?:D;) Gosh, makes me cold just looking at it.

Things aren't as cool here in Fawn Lodge as they are up there in Idey-hoe, however I have found it beneficial to keep a drop light with incandecent bulb(100 watt) in the engine compartment. The most effective place I have found is right in front of the fan. This keeps the engine sufficiently warm that it will start up somewhat better on those rather nippy mornings. I often put a blanket of some kind with a tarp over it covering the engine compartment (whole front clip, actually) to hold in some heat. Looks silly, but it works.

P.S:
Oh yeah, almost forgot; congrats on a really great find!:D
P.P.S:
Joseph's Willys wagon is OUTRAGEOUSLY COOL!:woot: I know it's heresy to say that on this forum, but I did, so there!:D Yeah, I have a weakness, big one as a matter of fact...:whome: for Willys wagons and pickups.:D

blueskies
11-21-2014, 12:06 PM
Joseph's Willys wagon is OUTRAGEOUSLY COOL!:woot: I know it's heresy to say that on this forum, but I did, so there!:D Yeah, I have a weakness, big one as a matter of fact...:whome: for Willys wagons and pickups.:D


We are working hard on Joseph's '51 wagon to get it ready for the Willys Overland Moab Rally (http://www.willysrally.com/) in May, so the Lark will have to take a back seat until then...

Heresy or not, I'm all over the board loving old cars and trucks. I still have my '53 Chevy pickup that I bought 34 years ago at the age of 14. I still miss my Plymouth but I totally dig my '60 Willys Wagon (http://www.oldwillysforum.com/forum/showthread.php?608-Pete-s-1960-Wagon) that I bought to replace the Plymouth. The Lark is a new adventure for Ben and I, and can't wait to get it reliable.

Yesterday I ventured forth in the Lark, headed to the DMV and gas station... Made it about three blocks, and ran out of gas. The car doesn't have a fuel gauge, so I had no idea how much fuel was in the tank. Walked home and got a can of gas, dumped in a couple of gallons, and was on my way.

I rolled into the gas station 6 blocks later, and it died as I stopped in front of the pump. Hmmmm...

I filled the tank, which took 11.7 gallons. According the the owner's manual, the tank holds 18 gallons, so it wasn't empty the first time it died... Tried to fire it up again, and no luck. It wouldn't fire, acting like it was out of gas again. I tried a few more times, and finally called my son to come fetch me with the Suburban and a strap.

When he got there, I tired it again, and it fired right up. It would run great for about a minute, and then run out of fuel again. The fuel filter looks clear, although there is some crud in there. When it was running fine, the filter was about half full of fuel. When it quit, the filter was empty, like it was not getting fuel from the pump or tank. At first I thought maybe the float was getting stuck in the carb, but that wouldn't explain the empty filter... Wondering if there is something in the tank that is blocking the fuel line.

After waiting a bit, I got it running again, and made it a few more blocks to the DMV, where I got the vin inspected, and picked up the new plates. I couldn't get it running again after that, so we towed it back home.

Once home, I tried again, and it started, and ran fine. ??? I then drove it around the block five or six times, trying to get it to warm up past the thermostat temp, and only managed to get it up to 170 before it started to run crappy again, so I parked it. I think it circulated some coolant, but not completely sure. I didn't want to go too far, the tires are pretty sketchy, just wanted to get it warmed up to make sure there is enough antifreeze in there for a cold winter.

This spring, we are going to go through the fuel system, carb, etc to figure out what the issue is. Until then, it is winter hibernation.

Pete

tbredehoft
11-21-2014, 01:06 PM
Before doing anything drastic, verify that your gas cap is vented. Modern caps don't admit atmospheric pressure into the tank, have an entirely different problem with high volume/pressure pumps sucking fuel from the tank. You need a pin hole in the cap so the low volume/pressure pump can continue to suck.

blueskies
11-21-2014, 01:19 PM
Before doing anything drastic, verify that your gas cap is vented. Modern caps don't admit atmospheric pressure into the tank, have an entirely different problem with high volume/pressure pumps sucking fuel from the tank. You need a pin hole in the cap so the low volume/pressure pump can continue to suck.

Tom- that was my first thought, it acts like it can't pull the fuel from the tank, and after sitting for a few minutes, it gets enough fuel to restart. I pulled the gas cap, and tried to run it without the cap, but it didn't seem to make any difference. It is a locking cap, and it says that it is vented, but I couldn't see the vent... I might try putting a different cap on it anyway just to be sure.

Pete

Warren Webb
11-21-2014, 08:26 PM
In cars over 50 years old it's common to find the fuel lines rusted behind the metal clips that retain it to the frame. It may be sucking air that way. Many here use a fuel filter in front of the pump to help protect it from junk that may break free from the tank & then another one in front of the carb. I use those filters with the glass body that you can disassemble & clean, putting it in front of the pump. Gives me an idea of the condition of the tank & then the all metal filter in the carb line. I personally do not recommend the plastic see through filters, especially in front of the carb to help prevent a cause of fire. Replace your rubber hoses too. 5/16ths is the size. They don't last with the gas we are forced to buy these days with ethanol in it.

SN-60
11-21-2014, 08:32 PM
Real nice looking car!...I drove the twin to your '61 Lark home from Alabama to Massachusetts years ago!

fargoguy
11-22-2014, 05:16 PM
Welcome to the Board. As soon as I saw your handle, I wondered if you were the same Blueskies from the HAMB. I was a big fan of your Plymouth build over there- that flathead six engine was one of the prettiest engines I've ever seen built over there. Maybe someday you should post some pics on the Stove Huggers forum of your Plymouth. After seeing your work over there, I can't wait to see what you have in store for your Lark! I'm a 61 Lark owner too, have spent lots of miles behind the wheel. Look forward to your progress on yours. You're not that far from me, maybe think about a trip to Saskatchewan for a Zone meet in 2016, it will be in the southern part, Moose jaw to be exact. An easy trip for your Lark. Welcome aboard, here's a pic of my 61.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b386/fargoguy66/1961%20lark/ESCAPEWARRANTY011.jpg (http://s23.photobucket.com/user/fargoguy66/media/1961%20lark/ESCAPEWARRANTY011.jpg.html)

blueskies
11-22-2014, 06:08 PM
...that flathead six engine was one of the prettiest engines I've ever seen built over there. Maybe someday you should post some pics on the Stove Huggers forum of your Plymouth. After seeing your work over there, I can't wait to see what you have in store for your Lark!


Evan-

Thanks for the welcome, and the complements on my 'ol Plymouth. I had a ball with the flathead, it was definitely not something you see much of.

http://www.50plymouth.com/04-eng/flattyicon2.jpg

Every time I opened the hood, a small crowd gathered... :) I'm still wishing I had been able to hang on to it, but sold the car to keep making house payments when the economy tanked. The house is long gone too, should have kept the car...

A zone meet would be a great goal for the Lark, where can I find more info?

Your '61 looks very nice...

Cheers,

Pete