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GinettaG12P
11-11-2014, 06:50 PM
1964 Super Hawk Clone

Jude in Maine has an interesting car for sale at $5K. It is mostly fiberglass with steel understructure and roof. The body appears to be in fine condition. I have talked with Jude extensively about the car and have gleaned some important information about it. The car was sold to him as a Super Hawk with the VIN 64V-K6410, which you will recognize as the body tag, rather than the VIN. The VIN tag is missing from the driverís doorpost and an examination of the hidden VIN on the rear cross member reveals only some of the numbers. You will also note that the front end of the car is a 1962 Hawk GT. Jude was told that the car was originally supercharged, but now it is normally aspirated. The engine number: PS3297 indicates that the engine was originally installed in a 1957 Golden Hawk. The car has disc brakes and twin traction. I have no affiliation with the owner; I just thought some of the members might be interested in this car. If you are, please call Jude at 207-459-6478.

Here is a copy of Judeís ad and some photos.

If you want a rare car this would be interesting to you.75%of the body is fiberglass besides the roof and under body.The body is straight and no body damage but it is far from a show car and the chrome is in great shape bumpers look new or redone. . Nice running motor was super charged but no longer on the car .The car has fairly recent brakes (disk in the front)brand new air shocks and lines ,tires and wheels are in excellent shape.this car is impressive how much power it has but i'm looking to move on to a newer ride. Believe it or not this car was super charged back in the day but it is missing. $5000.00 is a smoking deal before I put the car in storage.Or will trade for a late 60ies early 70ies muscle car or newer mustang or camaro

8E45E
11-11-2014, 07:01 PM
Is this the same car? http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?69769-64-factory-fiberglass-bonneville-GT-Hawk-prototype/page2&highlight=fiberglass

Craig

GinettaG12P
11-11-2014, 07:21 PM
It looks like it could be the car made by 11SecAvanti, in that it has a PS block, it appears to have once been red, it has a circular gas filler, and hood pins.

GinettaG12P
11-11-2014, 07:27 PM
Oh, and it has body #410 (64V-K6 410)

11SecAvanti
11-11-2014, 10:59 PM
That's the 64 GT Hawk I owned and drag raced for 10 years. Looks like its been painted again. It was dark red when I first got it and needed painting so I painted it Wimbleton White. I'll look thru my archives for some photos. Sold it in 2003 and glad to see it still survives in late 2014. (tom c)

GinettaG12P
11-11-2014, 11:16 PM
Hi Tom,

Thanks for the update. I look forward to seeing the photos.

Tom

Warren Webb
11-12-2014, 01:38 AM
Although it wouldn't be correct on a Hawk I for one would be interested in a fiberglass deck lid, especially one like on a 64. Might be good use for those rusted out lids for using the inner structure with the fiberglass outer.

11SecAvanti
11-12-2014, 11:08 AM
Found some old videos. Unable to upload because of google changes on U tube. Time for a more user friendly host. Few photos from the 90's. These are heads up runs. The mustang was a 14 second car and the stude was running low 13's at this time. The chevy caught me just before the finish by a car length but stude was ahead at the 1/8 plus.

11SecAvanti
11-12-2014, 11:15 PM
Got the video "invalid response from server" cleared after alot of google jungle wandering. VHS tapes are old and poor quality. Will try another one tomorrow. Enjoy. (tom c)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhbrGs-iju8

11SecAvanti
11-13-2014, 11:54 AM
Ten minute video of the GT Hawk Street Racing Wins. This is bracket dial in racing. Low ET was 13.06 for the final 5 round dial in win. This was around 1994-1995 time period.

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&feature=vm&video_id=KAOP_GrUL0Y

That link has viewing problems so try this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAOP_GrUL0Y&list=UUhGP-oRINHSU2gxbjRnH_yw

DEEPNHOCK
11-13-2014, 12:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAOP_GrUL0Y&list=UUhGP-oRINHSU2gxbjRnH_yw


[QUOTE=11SecAvanti;882392]Ten minute video of the GT Hawk Street Racing Wins. This is bracket dial in racing. Low ET was 13.06 for the final 5 round dial in win. This was around 1994-1995 time period.

(Try this)

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&feature=vm&video_id=KAOP_GrUL0Y (https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&feature=vm&video_id=KAOP_GrUL0Y)

That link has viewing problems so try this one.

11SecAvanti
11-15-2014, 12:28 PM
Don't know if these link will function or not. Nothing but server reject problems from the geek control mania of U tube on my end here.

Some runs in the low 12's. Don't want to be a thread hijacker but thought some history on the vehicle might be relevant to its past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyeV_dne0_A&list=UUhGP-oRINHSU2gxbjRnH_yw&index=3

And another:
Sorry for the poor quality but these tapes are nearly 20 years old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaltnYGNu3k&index=1&list=UUhGP-oRINHSU2gxbjRnH_yw

11SecAvanti
11-17-2014, 10:56 AM
Some photos: The hood flipped forward for engine service and the battery was in the rear in the center with remote cutoff control.

Pat Dilling
11-17-2014, 12:03 PM
That's impressive. Can you share what tires and suspension set up you were using? It looks like it hooked up pretty well.

11SecAvanti
11-17-2014, 10:36 PM
Pat, the wheels were Weld Racing and P205-75 -15 were on the front and Hoosier Quick Time DOT tires were on the rear. I think they were 28 inch diameter. Yes, it always launched smooth and straight with no wheel hop or wrapping behavior. Nothing special about the suspension other than the Traction Master bars I installed. Just factory shocks and Dana 44 with 3.73 TT and tapered axles. Over the years the rear ratios went from 3.31 to 3.54 and to 3.73. The et was better with the 3.73 and still streetable rpm.

Here is a video of a heads up run the GT made. Lost this round by .040 second. The after market chevy pulled me good off the line but the Hawk always moved rapidly once it was 60 or so feet out of the hole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5bUNBKmH_Q&list=UUhGP-oRINHSU2gxbjRnH_yw

Pat Dilling
11-18-2014, 12:32 PM
Thanks, That's very similar to the set up I have in my car, but I only have street tires. What sort of 60' times were you able to get? Did you have a higher stall torque converter? Sure hope someone does something with your old car.

11SecAvanti
11-19-2014, 09:45 AM
They were in the 1.83 to upper 1.89's on a footbrake stall of 2000. The GM 350 was quicker shifting than the B/W tranny. An a Powerglide would ET just as good as the 350 with just one shift. Tryed a holeshot B&M but it didn't flash as good as a TCI SteetFighter. Don't recall any 1.7 times but plenty of mid 1.8's and 1.9's. I drove around the waterbox most of the time.

55 56 PREZ 4D
11-19-2014, 12:22 PM
After looking at the information presented in Post #2.
Has anyone that knows how, contacted "JUDE in Maine" so that he knows the truth about his car ?

Pat Dilling
11-19-2014, 08:01 PM
They were in the 1.83 to upper 1.89's on a footbrake stall of 2000. The GM 350 was quicker shifting than the B/W tranny. An a Powerglide would ET just as good as the 350 with just one shift. Tryed a holeshot B&M but it didn't flash as good as a TCI SteetFighter. Don't recall any 1.7 times but plenty of mid 1.8's and 1.9's. I drove around the waterbox most of the time.

Thanks that gives me a good idea of what is possible with a sticky tire and simple rear suspension.

GinettaG12P
11-21-2014, 03:37 PM
After looking at the information presented in Post #2.
Has anyone that knows how, contacted "JUDE in Maine" so that he knows the truth about his car ?
I sent several emails to Jude, letting him know about the history of his car.