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Jerry Forrester
10-17-2014, 07:29 PM
I know this is a more or less a duplicate post, but here goes.

I am in need of an OE rear anti-sway bar assy. (as in EVERYTHING) for Buttercup.
For the 1 or 2 people in the world that doesn't know what Buttercup is; she, he, or it (gender won't be determined until she, he, or it is on the road, if ever) is a 1955 Studebaker Commander coupe. Pictured below.
Can anyone help.
PM me with what you have to offer.

rockne10
10-17-2014, 07:47 PM
Jerry,
Since you specified OE, we can assume your don't want a new kit from T-bow or SI?

Aussie Hawk
10-17-2014, 08:03 PM
Jerry,
If you have problems sourcing a bar we are currently having them made here in Australia, as well as the mounting hardware.

Studebaker of Australia

rowan
10-18-2014, 01:11 PM
Hey Matt - what is the cost of your kit without the spring plates and do you have an idea of the shipping costs? I would like to put one on my Sky Hawk. Thanks - Rowan - New Jersey 07076

Jerry Forrester
10-18-2014, 06:12 PM
Would someone PM me the phone number for Tom K. in South Bend (he doesn't do computers) (I can't spell his last name therefore the search function is useless this time). I'll bet even money he has one.

rockne10
10-19-2014, 03:02 AM
Tom Karkiewicz (574) 287-5834 is not on the forum.

JRoberts
10-19-2014, 06:59 AM
Jerry,
I know you specified an OE part, but I will tell you that I got the entire unit, bar, mounting haredware, plate and all, from T[-bow for my Cruiser. and it works great. By he way also got the oversized front bar from him as well and again it is a great piece.

candbstudebakers
10-19-2014, 09:23 AM
I have one on a 55 president state 4 door if I part it out then I would sell it but the line of people wanting it might be long, the car is 95% rust free and really don't want to part it out V-8 4 bld carb, butter knife side trim the state cars had gold trim on the inside need to be restored and no title at this time, $700.00 for the car as it sits, some one buy it then you have a sway bar. it must be an early on with the flat windshield.

Jerry Forrester
10-19-2014, 10:38 AM
I have one on a 55 president state 4 door if I part it out then I would sell it but the line of people wanting it might be long, the car is 95% rust free and really don't want to part it out V-8 4 bld carb, butter knife side trim the state cars had gold trim on the inside need to be restored and no title at this time, $700.00 for the car as it sits, some one buy it then you have a sway bar. it must be an early on with the flat windshield.

Thanks Bob, I know you've heard this quite a few times, 'If it were only closer, I'd buy that car'. I know it's a sedan, but a early '55 259-4V for $700. A deal.


it must be an early on with the flat windshield.
Please expand on this. Do you mean the sway bar I use on Buttercup has to be from an early '55 and no other model Studes will work?

SN-60
10-19-2014, 04:23 PM
Please expand on this. Do you mean the sway bar I use on Buttercup has to be from an early '55 and no other model Studes will work?[/QUOTE]

I think he's just saying that his President is an early (pre Jan. 55) flat windshield model for anyone interested in buying the whole car. The sway bars would be all the same.

RadioRoy
10-19-2014, 04:31 PM
The rear sway bar from any 53 and newer Studebaker car will fit.

Jerry Forrester
10-19-2014, 06:58 PM
The rear sway bar from any 53 and newer Studebaker car will fit.

That's what I thought, but Bob's comment had me confused.
Thanks.

SN-60
10-19-2014, 08:40 PM
That's what I thought, but Bob's comment had me confused.
Thanks.

You're welcome!

Jerry Forrester
10-19-2014, 08:46 PM
You're welcome!

Oops, didn't mean to slight you.
Thanks to you too Ed.

candbstudebakers
10-20-2014, 02:07 AM
That is what I meant, car must be early because of the flat windshield...Bob

rb63gt
10-20-2014, 11:23 AM
I added a original rear anti-sway bar to my '63 GT - I honestly didn't notice any difference in handling. Unless originality is important I would be inclined to go with the after-market product....

stude dude
10-25-2014, 01:06 AM
Hey Matt - what is the cost of your kit without the spring plates and do you have an idea of the shipping costs? I would like to put one on my Sky Hawk. Thanks - Rowan - New Jersey 07076

We are still working on the kit price (too many other projects....) but we will be initially offering the kits for 1953-58 models (less the spring plates) and 1959-62 models (with the spring plates) to suit cars with either #27 or #44 diffs. Eventually we will have a kit for 1963-66 models but are waiting for sample spring plates to arrive. Our bars will be black powder coated and slightly thicker than standard. The rest of the kit will use factory parts.

Chris
STUDEBAKER of AUSTRALIA

rockne10
10-25-2014, 01:29 AM
I added the rear swaybar to my '53 and noticed the slaloms became pretty squirrely. Replaced the original front bar with the heavy duty and am much happier.

stude dude
10-25-2014, 02:22 AM
The feedback we have received over the years is that a rear sway bar was much more effective than the HD front sway bars. This was particularly noticeable on longer wheelbase cars like Hawks and Presidents, as well as heavier models like Wagonaires and convertibles. The HD front bars do make a difference but the gains over the standard 1963-66 type front sway bar don't seem to be dramatic.

Chris.

Dan Timberlake
10-25-2014, 10:52 AM
"The feedback we have received over the years is that a rear sway bar was much more effective than the HD front sway bars."

If the comparison is how the car steering "feels" that sounds right.
A bigger front sway bar limits how the car leans, but generally adds directly to "understeer" which is the feeling of slower steering and even plowing. That can be very stable when traveling straight ahead

Adding a rear bar also reduces lean, but lessens understeer, so the steering feels quicker and more responsive.
Around 1964 Oldsmobile added a rear bar for the Cutlass 442 package, and the magazine testers raved how it was the best handlng GM intermediate

Those silly drift cars use a big rear bar, in addition to many other modifications aimed at making the tail come out easily.

rkapteyn
10-25-2014, 11:31 AM
Chris
Why are you making these kits?
Dave Thibeault all ready invested a lot of money on these.
this will discourage people from investing money in projects like this.
Robert Kapteyn

JoeHall
10-25-2014, 01:44 PM
Bob, I have bought 2 of Dave T's rear bars over the years, and like them. But am also OK with our friends down under offering him a little competition, which results in two choices v. one, for the consumer. Having a monopoly is good for the seller but not the consumer. Besides, just about everything Stude has be repro'd by someone, somewhere already. Why not let them join in?

63 R2 Hawk
10-25-2014, 01:49 PM
I would be guessing the cost to ship something like a sway bar from "up over" to "down under" would be a deal killer and probably wouldn't affect the guys that sell/ship to the continental US.