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BobPalma
10-14-2014, 10:08 PM
'Ran across these old (about 20 years) pics while looking for something else and thought they'd be a good object lesson. :eek:

Here's a 1964 Hawk that was delivered new in Dallas TX and spent most of its life down there before migrating to the midwest ten or so (?) years before these pictures were taken.

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/rustfreetexashawk1001_zps2e2792ee.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/rustfreetexashawk1001_zps2e2792ee.jpg.html)

The day after these pictures were snapped, the salvageable/usable parts had been removed and the balance had been cut up for scrap. :QQ:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/rustfreetexashawk2001_zpsab966f0f.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/rustfreetexashawk2001_zpsab966f0f.jpg.html)

:oops: :yeahright: Never assume anything when someone tells you they're selling you a car from the dry south... :whome: ;) :cool: BP

Guido
10-14-2014, 10:52 PM
Some times "rust free" cars are actually rust free... These are the floors in my never restored '62 GT that came out of the Central Valley of California.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/62%20GT%20Hawk%20floors/62GTHawkfloors004.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/62%20GT%20Hawk%20floors/62GTHawkfloors010.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/62%20GT%20Hawk%20floors/62GTHawkfloors006.jpg

JoeHall
10-14-2014, 11:05 PM
The Texas car more likely spent that 10 years in Cleveland or Syracuse, than the midwest.

62champ
10-14-2014, 11:16 PM
Some times "rust free" cars are actually rust free... These are the floors in my never restored '62 GT that came out of the Central Valley of California.

Safe to say those photos indicate a very well cared for automobile - wonder if ever saw a really bad weather day outside...

62champ
10-14-2014, 11:18 PM
The Texas car more likely spent that 10 years in Cleveland or Syracuse, than the midwest.

And all those years in Texas could have included a month at the coast every year it was down there...

57pack
10-15-2014, 06:31 AM
Looks more like it was...in the gulf, on the bottom!

RareBird
10-15-2014, 06:42 AM
3848338484I live near Toledo, these pics explain why I went to California to buy my "Rust Free" Hawk. Local bodyman was amazed that there was only light surface rust in the trunk :!!:

BobPalma
10-15-2014, 07:20 AM
And all those years in Texas could have included a month at the coast every year it was down there...

That's right, Patrick; we have long suspected that was the reality of this car before it came north. It went through Studebaker friend Howe Clark and his partner Joe Neuman's place here in Brownsburg when they were operating a restoration shop years ago. I happened up there with my camera just before they lit the cutting torch!

None of us had ever seen such a salted car with a southern pedigree. At the time, we came to the same conclusion you did, Pat.

(Obviously, this post is "for entertainment purposes only." Sometimes you have to clarify that around here, you know!) ;) :cool: BP

swvalcon
10-15-2014, 07:32 AM
Looks like your standard Mn rust bucket

SN-60
10-15-2014, 08:30 AM
'Ran across these old (about 20 years) pics while looking for something else and thought they'd be a good object lesson. :eek:

Here's a 1964 Hawk that was delivered new in Dallas TX and spent most of its life down there before migrating to the midwest ten or so (?) years before these pictures were taken.

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/rustfreetexashawk1001_zps2e2792ee.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/rustfreetexashawk1001_zps2e2792ee.jpg.html)

The day after these pictures were snapped, the salvageable/usable parts had been removed and the balance had been cut up for scrap. :QQ:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/rustfreetexashawk2001_zpsab966f0f.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/rustfreetexashawk2001_zpsab966f0f.jpg.html)

:oops: :yeahright: Never assume anything when someone tells you they're selling you a car from the dry south... :whome: ;) :cool: BP

There's always a bright side....Check out the 'easy access' to the four speed transmission:lol:

Bob Andrews
10-15-2014, 09:27 AM
I have a '62 Daytona that is a lifelong TX car with floors almost that bad. My other '62 Daytona is a lifelong MA car and has excellent floors, trunk, and cowl, small spot on one rocker. My '60 Lark wagon from So Cal had rusty floors, TOPS of doors, and worst of all, rust-through along the lip of the roof.

I learned long ago that no location is a dependable indicator, one way or the other.

PackardV8
10-15-2014, 11:14 AM
Worst buy I ever made was an eBay '56J represented as a "nice California car" . When I began disassembly, I found some Missouri license plates used as patch panels.

jack vines

Buzzard
10-15-2014, 12:55 PM
As for the pics I posted previously, my '57 Clipper SW was from a chicken coup in southern California-totally rust free, even the headlamp eyebrows. It was however full of several pounds of California dust and sand. Many pressure washes and compressed air needed to remove it all.
Bill

SN-60
10-15-2014, 03:55 PM
'Ran across these old (about 20 years) pics while looking for something else and thought they'd be a good object lesson. :eek:

Here's a 1964 Hawk that was delivered new in Dallas TX and spent most of its life down there before migrating to the midwest ten or so (?) years before these pictures were taken.

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/rustfreetexashawk1001_zps2e2792ee.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/rustfreetexashawk1001_zps2e2792ee.jpg.html)

The day after these pictures were snapped, the salvageable/usable parts had been removed and the balance had been cut up for scrap. :QQ:

http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/BobPalma/rustfreetexashawk2001_zpsab966f0f.jpg (http://s571.photobucket.com/user/BobPalma/media/rustfreetexashawk2001_zpsab966f0f.jpg.html)

:oops: :yeahright: Never assume anything when someone tells you they're selling you a car from the dry south... :whome: ;) :cool: BP

These pics should really be on the "Best Car for a Daily Driver" thread....Guess it wouldn't be a Hawk!

Roscomacaw
10-15-2014, 03:59 PM
I bought a running 56J in the early 90s. It had been a "California Car" since new. But it DID spend the first 15 years of it's life along the coast. Once I got to looking close, I was disheartened. Thing is, I did get my money back out of it from a guy that was buying every 56J he could find. California cars that haven't lived close to the ocean are usually pretty solid. Of course it does rain here (or it used to anyway!) during the winter months. Winter storms and leaky weatherstripping or un-closed windows, doors and trunk are gonna let rain in that is gonna soak carpets and puddle where it can. Then you have rust - in which case it ISN'T the fault of the fairly dry climate, it's the fault of careless owners.

studegary
10-15-2014, 04:15 PM
What's with that bumper sticking out from the rear of that 1953 C/K?

BobPalma
10-15-2014, 04:34 PM
What's with that bumper sticking out from the rear of that 1953 C/K?

That is a 1953 Commander Starliner that had been hit hard in the right rear :(, pushing the left end of the bumper outward in the process. :cool: BP

StudeRich
10-15-2014, 04:40 PM
What's with that bumper sticking out from the rear of that 1953 C/K?

I saw that also, it actually looks like the Fenders were shortened! I tried to figure out if it was a '55-'64 Bumper on a '53 but it is hard to see the License guard enough to tell. And if it was, I don't think there would be THAT much difference in length. :woot: :confused: Probably just someone's hacked up Custom. :(

BobPalma
10-15-2014, 04:51 PM
I saw that also, it actually looks like the Fenders were shortened! I tried to figure out if it was a '55-'64 Bumper on a '53 but it is hard to see the License guard enough to tell. And if it was, I don't think there would be THAT much difference in length. :woot: :confused: Probably just someone's hacked up Custom. :(

Not hardly, Rich. It was a really nice, stock California 1953 Commander Starliner until a "just licensed" teen-age driver with a load of friends in her Cavalier convertible plowed into the back end of it :mad: so hard it seriously buckled the Commander's frame in the kickup over the rear axle.....100% her fault, too; no ifs, ands, or buts. :eek: :cool: BP