Engine: Oil filter in Chebby Baker (not 283 McKinnon?)

[jnfweber]

Got around to thinking about changing oil in my '65 Cruiser and looked up filter in several popular stores and they all come up with Fram CH200PL or WIX 51143, both cartridge types which bolt onto right side of engine, accessible from top of engine. Since I did not see this cartridge container in that place, I looked under the car, and lo and behold, the spin-on cartridge was mounted on the left rear of the engine. It was a Fram, but rotated so I could not read the number. Which made me wonder: What kind of Chebby engine was in my Cruiser? And what is the proper number for the filter? It would be a lot more simple to know this before loosening and removing the filter, which always is somewhat messy. And what kind of oil would YOU use? (I know, this might lead to a lot more comments.) Photo attached. Thanks.

[41 Frank]

It has probably been converted to a spin on filter somewhere along the line. Or it may have a later block. All Studebaker installed 283 engines had the cartridge type filter on the drivers side. Only original looking thing I see on the engine is the exhaust manifolds.

[sweetolbob]

IIRC 68 was the first year across the board on SBC. Look at the front passenger side of the block just below the head. If it hasn't been decked there should be a set of numbers stamped on a pad there. NastyZ28.com or other websites will let you decode to yr and mfg location.

[Studebakercenteroforegon]

Fram and others used to sell an adapter to convert the cartridge style to a spin-on. It was not too unusual to buy a '65 - '66 V-8 that had already been changed, and I changed a couple over myself.

[DEEPNHOCK]

Here you go.....
Get a Fram p/n# K98ADP (filter adapter kit) to upgrade from a cannister oil filter on a McKinnon V8 to convert to a spin on oil filter.
Then.....
Get a Fram PH373 "Long" spin on oil filter... (Holds extra oil)

[jnfweber]

Here you go.....
Get a Fram p/n# K98ADP (filter adapter kit) to upgrade from a cannister oil filter on a McKinnon V8 to convert to a spin on oil filter.
Then.....
Get a Fram PH373 "Long" spin on oil filter... (Holds extra oil)

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Thanks Jeff, good advice! My initial post was WRONG, I had looked at a photo from Google Images taken from UNDER the engine which made it look like the cassette filter was on the right, at least on the right side of a very dirty engine, assuming I was looking at the top of the engine. Come to think about it I have changed the spin-on filter in the past, probably last year, and it was a standard-size Fram filter, which I discovered when I crawled under the car just now.

[rodnutrandy]

Wix 51069 or napa 1069 for short filter

[swvalcon]

On the Lt rear of the block there is a raised casting number next to the bell houshing. This number will also tell you if it's a 283,327,350 or what.

[jnfweber]

Moron filters

Wix 51069 or napa 1069 for short filter

On the Lt rear of the block there is a raised casting number next to the bell houshing. This number will also tell you if it's a 283,327,350 or what.

Thanks ebberybody, that saves me a bunch of looking up. I think Fram PH11 or PH10575 would also work. I have Pennzoil equivalent (PZ-18A) of a WIX 51372 as an added partial flow add-on on my Sky Hawk. Do any of you all know the taller WIX equivalent? I have been told WIX is a better filter than Fram, at least their "gold" series. While on the subject (photos of rusty engine), do you know where I could get a NOS or good used throtal link to replace the copper wire. Yes, I know the air filter can should be black, but at the time I was "taken" by the gold color from the Speedster.

[52-fan]

Copper would not be my choice if I was going to jury rig linkage. Somebody was lucky the linkage didn't fail at a critical moment. The proper piece shouldn't be too had to find.

[StudeRich]

I refuse to use half of an Oil filter and it's Oil capacity, when a Whole one is available.

The GM 283 with spin-on conversion "should take" a Full Size NAPA Pro Select # 21069 or NAPA "Gold" (WIX) equivalent FIL 1069 for a '65 Chevelle 283.

[DEEPNHOCK]

Wix is not a better filter than Fram.

Thanks ebberybody, that saves me a bunch of looking up. I think Fram PH11 or PH10575 would also work. I have Pennzoil equivalent (PZ-18A) of a WIX 51372 as an added partial flow add-on on my Sky Hawk. Do any of you all know the taller WIX equivalent? I have been told WIX is a better filter than Fram, at least their "gold" series. While on the subject (photos of rusty engine), do you know where I could get a NOS or good used throtal link to replace the copper wire. Yes, I know the air filter can should be black, but at the time I was "taken" by the gold color from the Speedster.

[jnfweber]

I refuse to use half of an Oil filter and it's Oil capacity, when a Whole one is available.

The GM 283 with spin-on conversion "should take" a Full Size NAPA Pro Select # 21069 or NAPA "Gold" (WIX) equivalent FIL 1069 for a '65 Chevelle 283.

Yeah, I agree. That is why I added the post. Thanks.

[DEEPNHOCK]

Let's be clear and accurate about this.
The three lengths of filters for a GM V8 engine are determined by the engine/vehicle manufacturer for that specific application.
It's not a cost cutting, or corner cutting decision.
It may well be a space, or packaging, decision.
And there may well be a filtration media difference between the three lengths of filters.
Meaning the filtration capabilities should all be equal between the three (or more) length of filters.
So, it the only difference is the oil capacity of the filter, then I would opt for the added capacity just to help with heat exchange, and with extending the service interval by slowing the contamination rate (due to more lubricant there to contaminate).

And... All of the filter manufacturers build good products.
Brand preference is almost always a marketing function, and rarely is it a performance function.
If a company (Fram Group) that builds 2.75 million filters a week made bad filters, they wouldn't be in business very long.
As a side note... Wix (parent company Affinia) is up for sale right now...so if you want to get into the filter biz.......

Originally Posted by StudeRich
I refuse to use half of an Oil filter and it's Oil capacity, when a Whole one is available.

The GM 283 with spin-on conversion "should take" a Full Size NAPA Pro Select # 21069 or NAPA "Gold" (WIX) equivalent FIL 1069 for a '65 Chevelle 283.

Yeah, I agree. That is why I added the post. Thanks.

[rodnutrandy]

the 51069 Wix is a short filter ,