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  • Rear Axle: How to cut special felt seals - 1928 GB rear axle (and 2R16,17,28,38!)

    I needed two felt seals for the outer grease seals on the Indy car axle. The axle came out of a 1928 GB sedan, as the original Indy cars, because it has a 3.31 or 3.09 ratio. Of course part number 150030 is NLA. Dimensions are 3.062 o.d. x 2.218 i.d. x 7/32 thick, type F1 or F2 felt. So, I ordered up a sheet of 3/8" thick felt to use for these and some other seals. Felt in 7/32 thickness is not available, so cut a strip about 3-1/4" wide, then "skived" the sheet with a kitchen carving knife with an old-school carbon steel blade, sharp as a razor, to get a 7/32" thick strip. Grainger has the F1 felt to use for projects like this.

    For cutting dies, I picked up some steel exhaust system adaptors at the local FLAPS. I'll bet they wondered why I was picking up a bunch of parts and pulling my plastic calipers out of my pocket. It turned out that there were some short tubes that could be turned to meet the sizes I needed. My little Harbor Freight 7"x10" lathe groaned, but I did manage to square off the tubes and put a 30 degree tapered knife edge on each one. I placed the felt strip on a piece of plywood supported by a steel block on my HF 12-ton press, put the tube edge to the felt, and added a steel block on the top side of the tube. A few strokes of the hydraulic pump cut through the felt and a little into the plywood. I soon had the two gaskets I needed and some spares. The seals fit nicely into the iron bearing retainers. I'll have to oil them before I button things up.

    When I went looking for NOS parts, I found that Studebaker re-used that felt washer size as p/n 665605, used as the front axle grease seals on 2R16, 2R17, 2R28, and 2R38 trucks. In fact, it's still in the 7E/8E catalogs for 7E/8E28 and 7E/8E35 trucks!

    The soft steel used in exhaust pipes doesn't lead to a die that lasts a long time, but when you only need two washers, it's OK. I've cut other washers using copper water pipe and aluminum tube for dies.
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    Gary Ash
    Dartmouth, Mass.

    '32 Indy car replica (in progress)
    ’41 Commander Land Cruiser
    '48 M5
    '65 Wagonaire Commander
    '63 Wagonaire Standard
    web site at http://www.studegarage.com

  • #2
    I found the wife's cherished electric carving knife worked great!
    Laid sideways on two appropriately spaced blocks of wood screwed to a piece of plywood.
    She was not amused...
    HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

    Jeff


    Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



    Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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    • #3
      Gary, thanks for writing this up so well. This is basic knowledge that we all will be able to use. I routinely make my own gaskets, Haven't cut any felt seals as you have described, because no need, so far. One tip I can offer: when making complicated paper gaskets, like a carburetor bowl gasket, use a nail, heated red hot, to burn the small holes, rather than try to punch them. Quick and easy, and leaves a clean edge with no fibers that might come loose and cause grief later. And of course, nails come in a wide range of sizes.
      Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

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      • #4
        Very cool Gary, thanks

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