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  • I need a "weight certificate" for a 1963 Champ P/U

    I just acquired a '63 Champ pickup with no title, and to register it in California, I need some paper work that certifies empty, unladen weight. I don't have any old registration slips, so I need to have the weight certified by a commercial scale. Problem is, the truck hasn't run in many years and presently has no brakes. I'd like to avoid trailering it to the scales, unloading and reloading it. Does anyone know where I could get an "official statement of unladen weight", like a Studebaker book or is the Studebaker Museum the best source?
    If someone has an old California registration for a 1/2 ton Champ that shows the weight, maybe I could get a copy to show the DMV? THANKS!
    Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
    '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
    '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
    '58 Packard Hawk. A partially restored car that was not completely assembled.

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    Howard, Take a picture of the vin plate. It has the GVW on it. That may be good enough for the DMV. My wife works at Auto Club. I'll ask her.
    59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
    60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
    61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
    62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
    62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
    62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
    63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
    63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
    64 Zip Van
    66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
    66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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    • #3
      It may be good in So. Cal. but it ain't in No Cal! They want the thing weighed and a certified weight slip attached! Gotta love the DMV. Best of everything with this issue.
      Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
      K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
      Ron Smith
      Where the heck is Fawn Lodge, CA?

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      • #4
        I'm sure the DMV will require you to bring a weight slip from a certified scale. They made me weigh a new Chevy Silverado that I bought in Las Vegas and wanted to register in California. Even though I had the certificate of origin from Chevrolet with the unladen weight on it, I still had to have the truck weighed to make the DMV happy. Bud

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        • #5
          Thanks everyone for your advice. I have a copy of a friend's Champ registration which I'm gonna take to a scale facility and see if they can give me a certificate for the truck.
          Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
          '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
          '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
          '58 Packard Hawk. A partially restored car that was not completely assembled.

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          • #6
            Howard, my wife checked with the DMV handbook & there is no way around it, you must have a weight certificate from a weigh station. Don't you just love the extremes one must jump through in order to do a simple thing!
            59 Lark wagon, now V-8, H.D. auto!
            60 Lark convertible V-8 auto
            61 Champ 1/2 ton 4 speed
            62 Champ 3/4 ton 5 speed o/drive
            62 Champ 3/4 ton auto
            62 Daytona convertible V-8 4 speed & 62 Cruiser, auto.
            63 G.T. Hawk R-2,4 speed
            63 Avanti (2) R-1 auto
            64 Zip Van
            66 Daytona Sport Sedan(327)V-8 4 speed
            66 Cruiser V-8 auto

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            • #7
              DMV's do such things for basically one reason...because they can! It's a lot like county inspectors around here...they make you jump through hoops when it's unnecessary because they have that authority. Here...it's all a fundraiser for the county.
              Poet...Mystic...Soldier of Fortune. As always...self-absorbed, adversarial, cocky and in general a malcontent.

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              • #8
                Thanks again everyone. Looks like I'll have to drag the pickup and trailer to the scales, unload and weigh, and reload and then take the certificate to the DMV. Oh well.................
                Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
                '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
                '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
                '58 Packard Hawk. A partially restored car that was not completely assembled.

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                • #9
                  You might apply for a "non-op" registration, then have it weighed when the truck is road worthy.
                  Dick Steinkamp
                  Bellingham, WA

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                  • #10
                    Good idea Dick, but that is exactly what I am doing. I'm applying for a new title (since the old one was lost) and non-op status. They still want a weight certificate.
                    Howard - Los Angeles chapter SDC
                    '53 Commander Starliner (Finally running and driving, but still in process)
                    '56 Golden Hawk (3 speed/overdrive, Power steering - Running, but not yet driving)
                    '58 Packard Hawk. A partially restored car that was not completely assembled.

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