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BShaw
01-19-2014, 01:03 PM
I was looking at Studebaker web sites and Facebook pages and ran across the Studebaker Drivers Club Latinoamerica FB page. Very enthusiastic Stude folks with some nice and unique cars and trucks. Anyway, I was looking at some photos and did a double take when I saw a number of Champ pics having a real sweet box ( IMHO). Unlike the Dodge style box this has a very complementary design and fit. Looks to be a box used in Argentina built Champs. I have attached a couple of pics. Has anyone imported one of these to the US, Canada or elsewhere? This has probably been written about in TW.

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Deaf Mute
01-19-2014, 01:13 PM
I've never seen one... kinda neat.

swvalcon
01-19-2014, 01:29 PM
Almost looks like a toyota box hard to tell from the picture but stll looks like it dosen't fit the cab. I;ve thought of checkin one of the new toyota fender side boxes for size. best I've found yet is makeing a box out of a lark wagon.

BShaw
01-19-2014, 01:52 PM
Here are a couple of other pics. The thing that strikes me most is the side body line from the cab door continues its descent along the box side, which suggests to me the box was made for the truck. Anyway, I like it a lot better aesthetically than the Dodge style box.

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BShaw
01-19-2014, 02:05 PM
And how about this one in Argentina? This listed as a 1962 Studebaker "Camionetas" which translates to "van" or Wagon".

s2d63lark
01-19-2014, 02:13 PM
Are these actually "Champs" and not the E-9(?) produced on the car frame that was exported. http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31534&d=1390158129&thumb=1 This one as well as the red one on your second post seem rather low to the ground as compared to regular pickup trucks. http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31535&d=1390160919&thumb=1
Either way, you are correct as that box certainly is better than the Dodge sourced units.

rockinhawk
01-19-2014, 02:15 PM
The gas tank has been relocated except on the first red one.

JRoberts
01-19-2014, 03:37 PM
The tail lights on the long bed red truck in the first post remind me for some reason of a Nissan (or maybe Toyota) of several years ago. I may well be mistaken about the orgin of the box, but like others have said it is a lot better looking than the Dodge bet Studebaker used.

swvalcon
01-19-2014, 03:45 PM
BoB I like that one from Argentina to bad it's not here in the states.

BShaw
01-19-2014, 04:05 PM
Are these actually "Champs" and not the E-9(?) produced on the car frame that was exported. This one as well as the red one on your second post seem rather low to the ground as compared to regular pickup trucks.


The gas tank has been relocated except on the first red one.

It looks to me like they had two versions. There is one that looks like it is built on the Lark wagon chassis (gas cap in the box and sits lower to the ground). And a similar box for the higher trucks with the gas cap in the cab. Based on the attached pic below it looks like the latter are E7 based.

BShaw
01-19-2014, 04:10 PM
BoB I like that one from Argentina to bad it's not here in the states.

There are a few pics of others here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.220094591370081.56047.210320445680829&type=3

i, too, would love to have one. Wonder what shipping from Argentina would be?

57pack
01-19-2014, 04:15 PM
Compliments the truck's entire look.
Much better than the Dodge version we were subjected to.
But I must say the Champs with the Dodge Dakota beds look
very good.
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BShaw
01-19-2014, 04:19 PM
Compliments the truck's entire look.
Much better than the Dodge version we were subjected to.
But I must say the Champs with the Dodge Dakota beds look
very good.
.

And I really drool over the looks of a Champ with the step side Ranger bed! But one of the Argentinian Champs would be WAY cool to have here.

StudeRich
01-19-2014, 04:56 PM
And how about this one in Argentina? This listed as a 1962 Studebaker "Camionetas" which translates to "van" or Wagon".

I think this one gets the prize for most unusual. Not bad really, a full size Crew Cab 2 Door Pickup, NOT a short Extended Cab.
Where are you gonna find one like that from ANY Mfg. or year? :ohmy: It has the stock Champ rear Cab Panel.

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31537&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1390161865 (http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31537&d=1390161865)

swvalcon
01-19-2014, 05:43 PM
Looks like they took a 2 dr wagon cut off half of the roof and added the rear body panel from the champ pickup to it. I'am sure the rear side glass is a set glass that dosen't open but could be wrong there

BShaw
01-19-2014, 07:13 PM
Looks like they took a 2 dr wagon cut off half of the roof and added the rear body panel from the champ pickup to it. I'am sure the rear side glass is a set glass that dosen't open but could be wrong there

I dunno 'bout that...maybe...but here's a 4-door one!

I am finding the topic of Studebakers built in Argentina (and all of South America) more intriguing the more I look. Surely TW has done articles on these at some time. Sure would like to read "the rest of the story"! I mean, we all have easy access to Studebaker's US and Canadian history and thanks to our friends down under on the forum we have learned much about Studebakers there. Anyone have one of those TW Index cd's that could check to see if South American Studebakers have been written about? Inquiring minds...

qsanford
01-19-2014, 07:29 PM
I think that Studebaker obtaining the Dodge truck body was a real stroke of genius. There certainly would not have been funds to develop one from scratch. It is remarkable that it fit as well as it did. But, that South American one in the first picture is pretty slick!

junior
01-19-2014, 08:41 PM
last year, or perhaps the one before, there was a guy posting on this forum that had one...red in color, and from somewhere in South America...I have forgotten which country. Those boxes really compliment the Champ cab. Wouldn`t mind having one myself. cheers, junior

doug
01-19-2014, 08:45 PM
The red one with the front view is not on a truck chassis because the bumper is where it is supposed to be on a Lark, not too low for the Lark front end.

8E45E
01-19-2014, 08:52 PM
Where are you gonna find one like that from ANY Mfg. or year?

Datsun U320: http://www.earlydatsun.com/datsun32064.html

Craig

BShaw
01-19-2014, 09:53 PM
The red one with the front view is not on a truck chassis because the bumper is where it is supposed to be on a Lark, not too low for the Lark front end.

Yes, in a couple of instances that style was referenced as a "Special Champ" (no idea if that was an official designation), possibly to differentiate it from those like the 7E7 regular truck style mentioned above.

Now, to add further muddy water to the topic, check out the bed style of 61-63 Ford trucks! Aside from the wheel well style and taillight treatment they are pretty much identical.

kurtruk
01-19-2014, 11:04 PM
Yes, in a couple of instances that style was referenced as a "Special Champ" (no idea if that was an official designation), possibly to differentiate it from those like the 7E7 regular truck style mentioned above.

Now, to add further muddy water to the topic, check out the bed style of 61-63 Ford trucks! Aside from the wheel well style and taillight treatment they are pretty much identical.

The Ford bed was my first thought when I saw the first red truck. Also, note the beige truck has a rear bumper from a Lark.

WinM1895
01-20-2014, 01:02 AM
Now, to add further muddy water to the topic, check out the bed style of 61-63 Ford Integral aka Unit-Body F100/250 2WD's. Aside from the wheel well style and taillight treatment they are pretty much identical.
Integral aka Unit-Body called Uni's by Ford truck fans, the Styleside beds are welded to the cab. 1961/63 F100/250 4WD's & F350's used the 1957/60 Styleside beds as did some 1962/63 F100/250 2WD's.

Rich: Two, three and four door 1953/56 F100/350 Crew Cabs were available from FoMoCo as a Domestic Special Order, some were Marmon-Herrington 4WD conversions.

Many were ordered by telephone and petroleum companies and were used to transport crews to remote job sites.

8E45E
01-20-2014, 06:55 AM
Integral aka Unit-Body called Uni's by Ford truck fans, the Styleside beds are welded to the cab. 1961/63 F100/250 4WD's & F350's used the 1957/60 Styleside beds as did some 1962/63 F100/250 2WD's.

Rich: Two, three and four door 1953/56 F100/350 Crew Cabs were available from FoMoCo as a Domestic Special Order, some were Marmon-Herrington 4WD conversions.

Many were ordered by telephone and petroleum companies and were used to transport crews to remote job sites.

The Mainline Ute was very popular in Australia: http://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/lot/GGCK868UO81210DW/

Craig

GTCruiser
01-20-2014, 09:16 AM
Studebakers in Brazil TW 7/97, Studes in Cuba TW 7/97 & Lark Hardtop in Uruguay TW 7/99 may have more information.

BShaw
01-20-2014, 09:37 AM
Based on the little I have gleaned thus far on the Internet, Studebaker Champ trucks in Argentina came in two models as mentioned in earlier posts.

Studebaker Champ 7E7 was based on the regular pickup with a different bed as per the pic at the bottom of this post.


Studebaker Champ 7E9 was based on the Lark chassis with a bed that appears similar to 61-63 Ford beds. These are also referred to as "Special Champ" as per the pic below.

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Seems like the v/8 was popular in both versions. Both also had "Champ" script on the door.