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Studebaker Wheel
01-15-2014, 02:37 AM
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In scrounging in the attic I found this matted photo of a c1984-85(?) Avanti II convertible. It measures 20 X 25 1/2" and was professionally done in Dayton Ohio (see image #2). Was this a dealer showroom picture, from a private collection or ? I have no recollection of when or why I got it but was planning to list it on Ebay. Anyone know anything about it or have an interest in it?

Gunslinger
01-15-2014, 05:48 AM
I believe that's a factory photo or it looks similar to a factory promotional photo I've seen numerous times on eBay.

studegary
01-15-2014, 03:03 PM
I believe that this Avanti is too new to be an "Avanti II". It is an Avanti convertible.
To me, it looks like 1987 S/N ---27 that I was under contract to purchase new. The last that I knew, the car was in the Ohio/Illinois/mid-west area.
It also appears the same, including colors, as the prototype 1983 Avanti convertible.
I think that you would be safe in listing it as a 1983-1987 Avanti convertible.

LarkTruck
01-15-2014, 03:53 PM
The car appears to be the 83 prototype commissioned by Steve Blake. Note the 63-64 front fenders with the larger wheel openings, and the mirrors and seats are not the Monte Carlo ones that Kelly used.
Jim

Bamajak
01-15-2014, 03:56 PM
A NCSDC member owns a car something like this one. It's a prototype with no top.

SN-60
01-15-2014, 04:37 PM
Could be the 'Wheel Of Fortune' Avanti.

8E45E
01-15-2014, 05:14 PM
The car appears to be the 83 prototype commissioned by Steve Blake.

I believe that is correct. I will confirm it when I get home later as I have the Summer, 1983 issue of Special Interest & Cars magazine showing it being fabricated in Richard Straman's shop in CA.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3772/11973142145_22286a400e_k.jpg

Here is from the Spring, 1984 issue of the same, showing a black & white photo of what RQ has.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2873/11973453404_39e97e4c1e_k.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/11973043645_fb473d048e_k.jpg

I actually got to sit in that car in 1986 when it was on display at Northwest Avanti Motors in Tacoma.

Craig

Studebaker Wheel
01-15-2014, 07:10 PM
Thanks for all the input. Wish I could remember where I got it!

Georger
01-15-2014, 07:18 PM
This is the Straman Prototype. It was commissioned by Steve Blake as his first convertible prototype. The later production convertibles are of a different design and were based on a second prototype. The serial number is RQB-3370. and it is in fact a 1982 Avanti! The rumored total cost was spent was about $100,000.
Richard Straman was well known for his conversions, and this car was built from a 1982 coupe in Costa Mesa, CA. It was in the movie Karate Kid.
George Rohrbach

8E45E
01-15-2014, 07:41 PM
This is the Straman Prototype. It was commissioned by Steve Blake as his first convertible prototype. The later production convertibles are of a different design and were based on a second prototype. The serial number is RQB-3370. and it is in fact a 1982 Avanti! The rumored total cost was spent was about $100,000.
Richard Straman was well known for his conversions, and this car was built from a 1982 coupe in Costa Mesa, CA. It was in the movie Karate Kid.
George Rohrbach

I saw it in person at Northwest Avanti in Tacoma in 1986, so it did make the rounds.

Craig

Studebaker Wheel
01-15-2014, 10:00 PM
Great info. Thanks. Wonder who owns it now?

kurtruk
01-15-2014, 11:01 PM
In the movie it still had chrome bumpers and other older styling ques.

stude dude
01-16-2014, 01:38 AM
The car that appeared in the Karate Kid, Fall Guy and Trapper John MD was a Florida Built 1977 model that kept its chrome bumpers and earlier trim details.

This car with the plastic bumpers started out as a regular 1983 model shipped to California for conversion.

Chris. 31413

Bamajak
01-16-2014, 10:32 AM
NCSDC member Ed Wingate's car (Never had a top)


https://plus.google.com/photos/106954469996381855434/albums/5614740417748754641/5614748663689385058?banner=pwa&authkey=CKuizKqLqOS_Dw&pid=5614748663689385058&oid=106954469996381855434

jimmijim8
01-16-2014, 12:09 PM
I'm thinking the Wheel of Fortune car was an 1988. I think. cheers jimmijim

studegary
01-16-2014, 01:55 PM
The car that appeared in the Karate Kid, Fall Guy and Trapper John MD was a Florida Built 1977 model that kept its chrome bumpers and earlier trim details.

This car with the plastic bumpers started out as a regular 1983 model shipped to California for conversion.

Chris.

I am now convinced that the car is the 1983 Avanti prototype convertible. It started out as the first 1982 coupe and was converted into the prototype 1983 convertible.

studegary
01-16-2014, 02:05 PM
A NCSDC member owns a car something like this one. It's a prototype with no top.

It may not be a prototype. Perhaps it is the "convertible" that was an incomplete car used as the centerpiece inside Club Avanti in Ohio owned by Cafaro.

Commando66
01-27-2014, 12:11 AM
That is the car that was built by Straman in SoCal. I worked on and drove that car while working at Avanti NW. It had a funky fuel tank in it due to the convertible top needing to occupy the original fuel tank location so Gary had the great idea to put a Lark tank in it. Swapped out front springs to get desired ride height to replace cut coils. Also got touring coupe mesh style wheels.

8E45E
01-27-2014, 07:56 AM
That is the car that was built by Straman in SoCal. I worked on and drove that car while working at Avanti NW. It had a funky fuel tank in it due to the convertible top needing to occupy the original fuel tank location so Gary had the great idea to put a Lark tank in it. Swapped out front springs to get desired ride height to replace cut coils. Also got touring coupe mesh style wheels.

What ever became of it? Did Gary Johnson sell it in the end? As I mentioned earlier, that car was sitting in the showroom when I last saw it in 1986.

Craig

stude dude
01-27-2014, 08:24 AM
Its very close in appearance to the car Dennis Newman (of Newman & Altman) owned. It may even be the same car. He still had it in the early 1990's.

Chris.

Avantidon
01-27-2014, 11:57 AM
For those who are interested in the "Wheel of Fortune" Avanti, it is alive and well and is seen on a regular basis in Eastern Tennessee. Right now it is tucked away in a warm garage along with several other vehicles awaiting Spring. It garners trophies everywhere it oges.

JBOYLE
01-27-2014, 01:02 PM
The car that appeared in the Karate Kid, Fall Guy and Trapper John MD was a Florida Built 1977 model that kept its chrome bumpers and earlier trim details.

This car with the plastic bumpers started out as a regular 1983 model shipped to California for conversion.

Chris.

So you're saying the Straman conversion/prototype is the 77 model? (I don't understand the "Florida built" part of your answer...I've never heard Avantis were built in Florida).

But you're correct, the magazine articles above shows two cars, the first one with chrome bumpers in the shop and the second one with plastic bumpers outside.

stude dude
01-27-2014, 06:27 PM
So you're saying the Straman conversion/prototype is the 77 model? (I don't understand the "Florida built" part of your answer...I've never heard Avantis were built in Florida).

But you're correct, the magazine articles above shows two cars, the first one with chrome bumpers in the shop and the second one with plastic bumpers outside.

NO! The chrome bumper car, the 1977 model was built (converted) in Florida. It was a darker metallic red and later appeared on TV. Not sure who did the conversion work but someone here will know.

The Straman car started out as an 82-83 model and eventually received the current 1984 styling and bumpers. Thats the red one in Richards photo.

Chris.

Gunslinger
01-28-2014, 01:28 PM
In John Hull's book "Avanti: Studebaker and Beyond", that same photo is printed and the car is identified as the "1983 prototype convertible" and was built by Richard Straham & Company in Costa Mesa, California. John further states the car was "a working prototype with a functioning convertible top."

I guess that's as conclusive as we're going to get regarding this car.

Avantict
01-28-2014, 05:27 PM
The second convertible prototype was built in Largo Florida by Mark Doyne.

Commando66
01-28-2014, 08:28 PM
What ever became of it? Did Gary Johnson sell it in the end? As I mentioned earlier, that car was sitting in the showroom when I last saw it in 1986.

Craig

Yes, he sold it. I don't know who bought it, but I thought I saw it listed on the AOAI roster in Florida.