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TMAN0950
01-06-2014, 07:36 AM
http://www.russoandsteele.com/collector-car/1957-Studebaker-Golden-Hawk/74292

BobPalma
01-06-2014, 08:16 AM
Holy cow; I'm glad they stated the car's Serial Number: 6100991.

The interior and paint scheme look to be a Golden Hawk 400, and I 'bout had a heart attack when I saw it, thinking another "400" had surfaced.

Alas, NO: 6100991 is almost 2000 Golden Hawks before the first 1957 Golden Hawk 400 was [speculatively] built for the 1957 Auto Show circuit. :woot: BP

JEWELL
01-06-2014, 12:23 PM
Holy cow; I'm glad they stated the car's Serial Number: 6100991.

The interior and paint scheme look to be a Golden Hawk 400, and I 'bout had a heart attack when I saw it, thinking another "400" had surfaced.

Alas, NO: 6100991 is almost 2000 Golden Hawks before the first 1957 Golden Hawk 400 was [speculatively] built for the 1957 Auto Show circuit. :woot: BP

Just what is a Golden Hawk 400 and was there only one?

Mark

BobPalma
01-06-2014, 02:27 PM
Just what is a Golden Hawk 400 and was there only one?

Mark

It is/was a specially-trimmed 1957 Golden Hawk, of which a total of 51 were made. The Serial Numbers of all 51 cars are known, but are not published so people don't create any with a bogus, reproduction Serial Number plate.

Ten were built as speculative cars for the 1957 new-car Auto Show circuit. They seemed to be well-received, so Studebaker put them in production. However, only 41 additional Golden Hawk 400s were built, for a grand total of 51.

There was nothing special about them mechanically, but they had full leather interiors, including special door panels, instrument panel overlays, and rear shelf upholstery. It did look like the interior of this car going to auction. They had no special, identifying script, in or out.

On the outside, the "floors" of the side air scoops were painted the same accent color as were the fins (on two-tone models).

SDCer Tom Lawlis of Plainfield IN, barely 10 miles south of me, is the 1957 Golden Hawk 400 guru. He is restoring one of the 41 production 400s, a monotone Inca Cream 400 that has been in his family since 1960! His progress is commendable and his work is gorgeous; I've seen the car at various stages of completion and it will be one of the, if not the, best 1957 Golden Hawks in the world when done, 400 or otherwise.

Late SDCer Phil Brown of South Bend researched all the 1957 Golden Hawk production records to record all the 400s by serial number, and to document how many were built. Several years later, and with Phil's permission and encouragement, Tom Lawlis and I went through all those records again, to be sure none had been overlooked.

They were all accounted for; Phil had "got" all of them the first time through.

If someone thinks they have a 400, they may send the Serial Number to Tom Lawlis (or me) and it can be confirmed as being an authentic 400, if it is one.

Ironically, the very first 1957 Golden Hawk 400 show car, the very first one, sits in secure storage in Avon IN awaiting restoration, about halfway between me and Tom Lawlis! So of 51 cars made, of which ten are confirmed extant, two of the ten are here in Hendricks County IN, west of Indianapolis!

For more information about 1957 Golden Hawk 400s, see these issues of Turning Wheels: March 1974, May 1988, February 1991, August 1991, October 1991, November 1991, December 1991, May 1993 (a documented one for sale in the classifieds), August 1993, and November 1997.

Additionally, my Hemmings Classic Car column on Page 33 of the March 2012 Hemmings Classic Car, introduced the 1957 Studebaker Golden Hawk 400 to the non-Studebaker collector-car world.

Here's is Studebaker's best-known (maybe the only) promotional piece on The 1957 Golden Hawk 400, what is really a large post card that could be used as a mailer:

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Famous Studebaker drag racer Ted Harbit owned a 1957 Golden Hawk 400 as a driver for several years in the late 1950s/early 1960s. It was a loaded car and very pretty: Midnight Black with Arctic White accents. It had been ordered new for Indianapolis' Snider Auto Service owner Virgil Snider's wife, who drove it for a demo. Today, the whereabouts/fate of the Black & White, Snider/Harbit 1957 Golden Hawk 400 are unknown.

Ted bought the 400 at Snider in 1958, trading in his 1957 Silver Hawk V8/overdrive he bought new only a year earlier. Ironically, cousin George Krem bought Ted's "old" '57 Silver Hawk at Snider as a used car, unaware that the previous owner was Ted Harbit. They determined that positively in subsequent years.

The Golden Hawk 400 was not continued for the 1958 model year, so there is no such thing as a 1958 Golden Hawk 400.

However, cousin George Krem and I confirmed one 1958 Golden Hawk having been built with a full white leather interior, possibly trimmed as a 400. It was built for Mr. R. A. Hutchinson, Studebaker Vice-President of Exports. Did Mr. Hutchinson know of a left-over 1957 "400" interior? We don't know.

Mr. Hutchinson's car still exists, appropriately enough in The Netherlands, since Mr. Hutchinson was involved in Studebaker Exports. The most recent account has it owned by SDCer Lou Janssen, subject to current confirmation. :) BP

52 Ragtop
01-06-2014, 02:38 PM
That's even earlier than my old 57 Golden hawk! Mine was 6101220.

Jim

old digger
01-06-2014, 04:53 PM
Bob, you are certainly a blessing to this forum and to all who read your column in Hemmings Classic Car. Thanks for sharing your wealth of information on the automotive industry in general, and especially Studebakers. Hot only due have the facts, but you really know how to present them in a fun and informative way. Have a safe and productive 2014. old digger

SN-60
01-06-2014, 05:40 PM
'400' or not, that Russo and Steele Golden Hawk looks like a heck of a nice car. The interior was probably done over to imitate a '400', as My friend Dennis did on his white and red '57GH 'tribute' I posted pictures of on the forum a couple weeks ago.

BobPalma
01-06-2014, 06:21 PM
Bob, you are certainly a blessing to this forum and to all who read your column in Hemmings Classic Car. Thanks for sharing your wealth of information on the automotive industry in general, and especially Studebakers. Hot only due have the facts, but you really know how to present them in a fun and informative way. Have a safe and productive 2014. old digger

Thanks for your kind words, Gary. I hope you'll enjoy the March 2014 Hemmings Classic Car installment, out in a couple weeks...but it has nothing to do with Studebakers; 'just something I've noticed through the years.

'Back at you on the best wishes for 2014...and stay warm up there! :cool: BP

9echo
01-06-2014, 06:28 PM
Bob, what was the additional cost of the 400 package?

BobPalma
01-06-2014, 06:59 PM
Bob, what was the additional cost of the 400 package?


$489, Jim.

A few 1957 MSRPs for comparison:

1957 Studebaker Golden Hawk: $3,182

1957 Studebaker Golden Hawk 400: $3,671

1957 Ford Thunderbird: $3,408

1957 Chevrolet Corvette: $3,465

1957 Chrysler 300C: $4,929

In fairness to the Chrysler 300C, it had several major items of standard equipment (power steering, for example) that were optional at extra cost on the Studebaker, Ford, and Chevrolet specimens. :cool: BP

bezhawk
01-06-2014, 07:19 PM
The door panels on the auction car, (if the 400 is the same as the Packard Hawk interior as often stated) , are not the same. My Packard Hawk had the pleated sections on the top, roll over to the glass without the stainless top pieces. Perhaps that is the differences between the two makes?

SN-60
01-06-2014, 07:42 PM
The door panels on the auction car, (if the 400 is the same as the Packard Hawk interior as often stated) , are not the same. My Packard Hawk had the pleated sections on the top, roll over to the glass without the stainless top pieces. Perhaps that is the differences between the two makes?

Bez, If You mean the outer padding on the door belt moulding ala Packard Hawk.....a '57 Golden Hawk '400' would not have that.

bezhawk
01-06-2014, 07:58 PM
Bez, If You mean the outer padding on the door belt moulding ala Packard Hawk.....a '57 Golden Hawk '400' would not have that.
Sorry for any confusion. No. I exactly meant the inner door panel. Next time you look at a Packard Hawk, notice that there is NO upper stainless on the top edge of the door panels.
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?51910-Packard-Hawk-restoration-nearing-the-end-Hopefuly-soon-Pictures

So back to the topic of this being a 400 look-alike....there are differences.

plwindish
01-06-2014, 09:10 PM
I did not see the Hawk being called a 400 in the listing. Those particular wheels do nothing for the looks of that car. If the original hubcaps can't be located, then it needs wires.

SN-60
01-07-2014, 10:11 PM
I wonder if bids on this Hawk will pass 50K?

mmagic
01-08-2014, 07:16 AM
I'd never looked closely at a Hawk dash. This one appears to have 5 small gauges plus the tach and speedo. My Speedster has 4 small gauges. Am I mistaken re 5 on the Hawk or what is the 5th.

41 Frank
01-08-2014, 09:30 AM
Golden Hawks also have a vacuum/boost gauge Merlin.

I'd never looked closely at a Hawk dash. This one appears to have 5 small gauges plus the tach and speedo. My Speedster has 4 small gauges. Am I mistaken re 5 on the Hawk or what is the 5th.

SN-60
01-08-2014, 03:39 PM
I'd never looked closely at a Hawk dash. This one appears to have 5 small gauges plus the tach and speedo. My Speedster has 4 small gauges. Am I mistaken re 5 on the Hawk or what is the 5th.

I always was tempted to squeeze a '56J vacuum gauge into the middle of the '55 Speedster dash gauge cluster.....has anyone tried that?

mmagic
01-09-2014, 11:47 AM
Also a 55 wagon at R&S
1955 Studebaker Champion Coupe Station Wagon


Offered Without Reserve
Scottsdale 2014
Consignment # 7617
VIN: 884629
Run # SN841
Approx. Run Time
Sunday 12:30 PM - 12:50 PM


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Vehicle to be offered for Auction sale WITHOUT RESERVE and SOLD to the highest bidder January 15th-19th at Russo and Steele's 14th Annual Scottsdale Arizona Auction. Please contact us for more information.

very rare 2 door wagon factory v8
rust free Georgia car, wide white tires, stainless trim rings
31225

studegary
01-09-2014, 01:21 PM
Also a 55 wagon at R&S
1955 Studebaker Champion Coupe Station Wagon


Offered Without Reserve
Scottsdale 2014
Consignment # 7617
VIN: 884629
Run # SN841
Approx. Run Time
Sunday 12:30 PM - 12:50 PM




For further inquiries about this automobile click here (john@russoandsteele.com?subject=1955%20Studebaker%20Champion&body=This%20is%20email%20has%20been%20generated%20from%20the%20Russo%20and%20Ste ele%20website%20for%20a%20specific%20automobile%20inquiry%20%28Consignment%20102-7617%29.%0A%0A)

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Vehicle to be offered for Auction sale WITHOUT RESERVE and SOLD to the highest bidder January 15th-19th at Russo and Steele's 14th Annual Scottsdale Arizona Auction. Please contact us for more information.

very rare 2 door wagon factory v8
rust free Georgia car, wide white tires, stainless trim rings
31225


I do not know why they would call it a "Champion" and a "Coupe" when they also say "wagon factory V8".

The Serial Number is for a Vernon (LA) California built 1955 Commander.

8E45E
01-09-2014, 01:32 PM
Ten were built as speculative cars for the 1957 new-car Auto Show circuit. They seemed to be well-received, so Studebaker put them in production. However, only 41 additional Golden Hawk 400s were built, for a grand total of 51.

Were any of those 51 shipped to Canada?

Craig

BobPalma
01-09-2014, 02:17 PM
Were any of those 51 shipped to Canada? Craig

Yes, Craig, at least one and maybe more than one.

I say this because all 10 of the Pre-Production Show Cars only have this for Destination: Special Show. So if one of those ten ultimately went to Canada, I don't know.

However, #31 of the 41 "Production" 400s, built June 4, 1957, shows a destination of Hamilton, Ontario. It was Tiara Gold with Arctic White accents. So we know for sure at least one of the 51 total was shipped to Canada.

Three of the 41 Production 400s have Destinations that obviously aren't "final," so to speak. The Destination for 400 #15 (of the 41 "Production" 400s) was Studebaker Administration Building. It was solid Midnight Black; woo-hoo!

Production 400s #38 and #39 (again of the 41, remember) had a destination of Experimental Engineering, Attention J. M. Husvar.

Other destinations were scattered around trhe country, including cars to Mercedes-Benz of Hollyood Retail Store, Mercedes-Benz of Hollywood Los Angeles, Mercedes-Benz of Chicago, and Mercedes-Benz of Ft, Lauderdale FL.

So to answer your question, there is only one confirmed destination in Canada of the 41 Production 400s, but one of the first ten Show Cars might have been sent there. We just don't know from extant Production Orders. :( BP

studegary
01-09-2014, 02:50 PM
Yes, Craig, at least one and maybe more than one.

I say this because all 10 of the Pre-Production Show Cars only have this for Destination: Special Show. So if one of those ten ultimately went to Canada, I don't know.

However, #31 of the 41 "Production" 400s, built June 4, 1957, shows a destination of Hamilton, Ontario. It was Tiara Gold with Arctic White accents. So we know for sure at least one of the 51 total was shipped to Canada.

Three of the 41 Production 400s have Destinations that obviously aren't "final," so to speak. The Destination for 400 #15 (of the 41 "Production" 400s) was Studebaker Administration Building. It was solid Midnight Black; woo-hoo!

Production 400s #38 and #39 (again of the 41, remember) had a destination of Experimental Engineering, Attention J. M. Husvar.

Other destinations were scattered around trhe country, including cars to Mercedes-Benz of Hollyood Retail Store, Mercedes-Benz of Hollywood Los Angeles, Mercedes-Benz of Chicago, and Mercedes-Benz of Ft, Lauderdale FL.

So to answer your question, there is only one confirmed destination in Canada of the 41 Production 400s, but one of the first ten Show Cars might have been sent there. We just don't know from extant Production Orders. :( BP

Perhaps the four that went to Hamilton and the Administration Building in South Bend went to Studebaker executives for their use (with or without their personal ownership).
The two to Engineering may have been for further modification or prep for retail delivery (but that is usually stated). Or they could have been modified into Packard Hawk prototypes (noting that they were among the last 400s and at the end of the 1957 model year).

BobPalma
01-09-2014, 03:11 PM
Perhaps the four that went to Hamilton and the Administration Building in South Bend went to Studebaker executives for their use (with or without their personal ownership).
The two to Engineering may have been for further modification or prep for retail delivery (but that is usually stated). Or they could have been modified into Packard Hawk prototypes (noting that they were among the last 400s and at the end of the 1957 model year).

Yep, Gary; all possible but must remain speculative at this point, pending more research into other files. :cool: BP

8E45E
01-09-2014, 05:49 PM
Yes, Craig, at least one and maybe more than one.

I say this because all 10 of the Pre-Production Show Cars only have this for Destination: [SIZE=4][FONT=comic sans ms]Special Show. [FONT=arial][SIZE=2]So [FONT=verdana]if one of those ten ultimately went to Canada, I don't know.

However, #31 of the 41 "Production" 400s, built June 4, 1957, shows a destination of Hamilton, Ontario. It was Tiara Gold with Arctic White accents. So we know for sure at least one of the 51 total was shipped to Canada.

So to answer your question, there is only one confirmed destination in Canada of the 41 Production 400s, but one of the first ten Show Cars might have been sent there. We just don't know from extant Production Orders.

Yeowwwwwwwwwww!!! There is a good possibility that car was parted out in Edmonton in the early to mid 1970's. The one who parted it out did notice it had a 'different' interior with leather seats, but unfortunately did not know what it was at the time. He bought it as a "give me a hundred dollars and get it out of here" kind of a deal when it was a rusted out, used-up old car sitting a backyard. He has said numerous times, had he known what he had back then, he definitely would have saved it!!

Craig

BobPalma
01-09-2014, 07:25 PM
Yeowwwwwwwwwww!!! There is a good possibility that car was parted out in Edmonton in the early to mid 1970's. The one who parted it out did notice it had a 'different' interior with leather seats, but unfortunately did not know what it was at the time. He bought it as a "give me a hundred dollars and get it out of here" kind of a deal when it was a rusted out, used-up old car sitting a backyard. He has said numerous times, had he known what he had back then, he definitely would have saved it!! Craig

That's not the end of the world, Craig, as disappointing as it is to read.

Please check with the appropriate fellow and see if there is any record of the deceased car's serial number. If it can be positively identified, it can be documented as a car that no longer exists. To help refresh his memory, if needed, remember that it left South Bend painted Tiara Gold with Arctic White accents.

Tom Lawlis, while not on the forum, keeps an accurate record of those cars. As you would expect, the whereabouts / fate of most of them are unknown. In fact, only ten of the 51 total are firmly accounted for, one way or another.

So 41 of the 51 are not accounted for, It would be nice to at least document the fate of one more, even if it is deceased.:ohmy: (I just checked the roster of "known" cars, and the serial number of the car shipped to Hamilton is NOT among them.) :) BP

8E45E
01-10-2014, 07:55 AM
That's not the end of the world, Craig, as disappointing as it is to read.

Please check with the appropriate fellow and see if there is any record of the deceased car's serial number. If it can be positively identified, it can be documented as a car that no longer exists. To help refresh his memory, if needed, remember that it left South Bend painted Tiara Gold with Arctic White accents.

Bob, next time I visit him, I will definitely ask if he remembers the serial number. He did state it was gold & white. We will see if he still has any paperwork or even the serial number plate from 40 years ago.

Craig

8E45E
01-10-2014, 08:04 AM
Or they could have been modified into Packard Hawk prototypes (noting that they were among the last 400s and at the end of the 1957 model year).

I suspect you are correct on that, as J.M. Husvar was the interior Trim Engineer.

Craig

BobPalma
01-10-2014, 12:46 PM
Bob, next time I visit him, I will definitely ask if he remembers the serial number. He did state it was gold & white. We will see if he still has any paperwork or even the serial number plate from 40 years ago. Craig

Anything will do, Craig; don't overlook old registrations, insurance papers, the Owners Warranty paperwork, etc, anything that might have a Serial Number, or even partial Serial Number. They are all seven-digit numbers that begin with 610, so only the last four digits are unique to each car.

In fact, I just checked and see that the last two digits of that car's serial number are unique to that car(!) among all 51 Golden Hawk 400s! So if he had a partial serial number with only the last two digits, we could "go" with that! :D BP

Andy R.
01-10-2014, 04:15 PM
The auction car seems really nice. Even if not a true 400, that interior is beautiful and probably feels every bit as special.
Those clunky "mags" and white letter tires might even keep the price down a couple grand.

Anyone know if the auction will be televised or streaming?