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53k
10-13-2013, 06:36 PM
Today at the Nancy and Chester's 19th Annual Show at their house near Bridgewater, VA- the trio ('37, '38 and '39) belong to Chester. The custom '37 I had not seen before and I didn't find out anything about it, but is NICE!

j.byrd
10-13-2013, 06:55 PM
WOW !!! Jealousy and envy are fighting to the top, those are gorgeous ! Thanks

Dick Steinkamp
10-13-2013, 07:11 PM
The 37 is spot on PERFECT! :!:

t walgamuth
10-13-2013, 07:46 PM
The 39 looks sweet too!

Studebaker Wheel
10-13-2013, 07:54 PM
Personally I feel about modified Coupe Expresses the same as I do about the 1953-54 Coupes and hartops. That is, whatever modifications are made does nothing to improve on the original design. (I have owned seven Coupe Expresses - none modified).

Dick Steinkamp
10-13-2013, 08:36 PM
Personally I feel about modified Coupe Expresses the same as I do about the 1953-54 Coupes and hartops. That is, whatever modifications are made does nothing to improve on the original design. (I have owned seven Coupe Expresses - none modified).

I absolutely admire a well done restoration on a Coupe Express or 53-54 Coupe or Hardtop, but if there are ANY Studes that cry out to be modified, these are the ones. I'm not talking about extreme modifications, I'm talking taking the timeless shape and removing the unnecessary barbs, correcting the stance, and making a smooth vehicle even smoother. I believe the designers of these cars would completely agree with what has been done to examples like this 37.

showbizkid
10-13-2013, 08:41 PM
Those are truly lovely. I think that all of the pre-war models from '37 to '41 are gorgeous, but these are true exemplars.

Studebaker Wheel
10-13-2013, 08:46 PM
I absolutely admire a well done restoration on a Coupe Express or 53-54 Coupe or Hardtop, but if there are ANY Studes that cry out to be modified, these are the ones. I'm not talking about extreme modifications, I'm talking taking the timeless shape and removing the unnecessary barbs, correcting the stance, and making a smooth vehicle even smoother. I believe the designers of these cars would completely agree with what has been done to examples like this 37.

Of course I respectfully disagree. That said the yellow '37 that was at the Intl meet in Colorado Springs and on the cover of TW was nicely done but the modifications were very minor and extremely well executed.

jclary
10-13-2013, 08:47 PM
Good grief! I am a diabetic.:ohmy: Fortunately (so far), I don't have to take insulin. However, after this much eye candy in one post...I might need an extra pill or two.:!::):drool:

Anne F. Goodman
10-13-2013, 08:54 PM
WOW WOW and Wow

Dick Steinkamp
10-13-2013, 08:59 PM
Of course I respectfully disagree.

...and you are allowed to. :) If we all liked exactly the same cars done exactly the same way it would be a pretty boring hobby.

StudeMichael
10-13-2013, 11:20 PM
I have to agree! The gene pool is getting blurry.


Personally I feel about modified Coupe Expresses the same as I do about the 1953-54 Coupes and hartops. That is, whatever modifications are made does nothing to improve on the original design. (I have owned seven Coupe Expresses - none modified).

rockne10
10-13-2013, 11:58 PM
The three Coupe Expresses in the first photo appear to be stock. Assume these are Nancy and (Chesterfield's [sic]) Chester Bradfield's. The remaining photos show a cleanly modified CE. All are superb!

t walgamuth
10-14-2013, 05:51 AM
My 39 will be kept very stock on the outside. Tail lights are the exception. Interior too except the dash. It has oversized brakes though and modern running gear so I can take it anywhere including the interstate with safety, even pulling a small trailer occasionally.

If it had been in better condition when I got it I might have considered keeping it all stock.

EssexExport
10-14-2013, 06:01 AM
Really n-i-c-e.

clonelark
10-14-2013, 06:04 AM
The 37s have such an Art Deco look,(and i'm an Art Deco lover) the 39s have such a beautiful waterfall grille. These are lot like the 53-55s in that they bring high prices with them. The modified 37 is a thing of beauty, Very well done.

junior
10-14-2013, 09:42 AM
Personally I feel about modified Coupe Expresses the same as I do about the 1953-54 Coupes and hartops. That is, whatever modifications are made does nothing to improve on the original design. (I have owned seven Coupe Expresses - none modified).

I love them all, and would have a hard time choosing a particular year...the 37 art deco trim is cool, the 38`s look the most truck like, and the 39`s have entered the fat-fendered era...but all of them need help with the back window. I figure Stude designers messed-up here, all CE`s have nice rounded compound curves everywhere, and then a dinky rectangular rear window stuck in. To me they look like an after thought...kinda like the design team forgot to put a rear window in, then got the a-ok from management to produce the vehicle as long as they put some rear glass in. Make it bigger, rounder, jelly-beany-er, but rectangular...really? JMO, junior.

t walgamuth
10-14-2013, 10:11 AM
I agree the back window is a weak point.

I'd have to say the front end on the 38 is its weak point.

Son O Lark
10-14-2013, 10:30 AM
I agree , a nice oval shaped rear window would be welcomed.

studegary
10-14-2013, 02:05 PM
You made me miss being at the meet even more than I had. As you probably remember, I have driven to several of Chester & Nancy's meets. The hundreds of miles each way just seems like too much now. I have seen Chester's vehicles, but you never know what might pull into his yard and the lunch is great.

Studebaker Wheel
10-14-2013, 02:08 PM
I agree the back window is a weak point.

I'd have to say the front end on the 38 is its weak point.

Geez, you've got to be kidding!!??

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LeoH
10-14-2013, 03:02 PM
I don't care for the '37 overall, but since I didn't see what was done to the '38 and '39 I can't say it's better or worse than the '37.
Too much new aftermarket gimmickry in the dash, more often than not I HATE 'updating' a dash with modern gauges when, if you add up the money spent on everything else, even a period gauge cluster from another year refurbed and installed would look so much better. A radio protruding out like that?! Please. And getting all poofy with the interior, to me, in a singular vehicle like those is a waste of money. You can update and put in new material, but make a LITTLE effort to be classy...that's a classy design, don't greasy finger it with 'moderne' style. The taillights, meh. That's been so done.
Yeah. That's how I really feel. Without the bumpers I tend to prefer the '38 and '39 body style in general, but the 'touches' on the '37 were a bit much for me.

Dick Steinkamp
10-14-2013, 03:06 PM
The designers were spot on with the way the 37 grill flows back into the hood. A much more integrated design IMHO than the 38. Ford liked the look so much that the copied it with their 38 Standard...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/1938_Ford_700C_Standard_Tudor_Sedan_KHA003.jpg

t walgamuth
10-14-2013, 04:49 PM
Geez, you've got to be kidding!!??

28526

With the unique cathedral style headlights it all sorta comes together. Luckily we don't all love the same stuff.;)

Corvanti
10-14-2013, 05:13 PM
any additional pics of the three in pic #1?

Studebaker Wheel
10-14-2013, 05:20 PM
Here is a photo of Chester and Nancy with the '39 at the Glidden tour in South Pittsburgh, TN last month. I sold the '39 to him 3 1/2 years ago and drove in on one leg of the Glidden. Must say he has it running better than when I owned it!

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53k
10-14-2013, 05:37 PM
any additional pics of the three in pic #1?
Unfortunately I didn't take any other pictures of the CEs. I had seen them several times over the preceding years and I had to hurry to get some of the other vehicles there. Would you settle for a couple more of his many trucks? The first three cars in the third thumbnail are also Bradfield cars.

Corvanti
10-14-2013, 06:30 PM
thanks, Paul - more nice ones!!!:!:

i love originals, but also like most (not all) resto-mods. the more original on the outside scores extra points on my "likeability scale".:)

for example, i really love Jeff's "yellow POS", but do not care for ones like the '39 kit trucks such as this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1939-Studebaker-Replica-/321217851466?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4aca13704a

t walgamuth
10-14-2013, 10:43 PM
Here is a photo of Chester and Nancy with the '39 at the Glidden tour in South Pittsburgh, TN last month. I sold the '39 to him 3 1/2 years ago and drove in on one leg of the Glidden. Must say he has it running better than when I owned it!

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Lovely 39!

studegary
10-15-2013, 01:18 PM
With the unique cathedral style headlights it all sorta comes together. Luckily we don't all love the same stuff.;)

I do not believe that the 1938 CEs used the Art Deco, cathedral style headlights. I think that they came with plain round headlights. I know that some trucks now have them, but that falls into the realm of customizing or modification, sort of like removing the spare from the front fender.

t walgamuth
10-15-2013, 01:28 PM
The spare was optional. It was a delete for credit of like $4.;)

8E45E
10-15-2013, 01:44 PM
I do not believe that the 1938 CEs used the Art Deco, cathedral style headlights.

Correct, as the CE was based on the Six. Apparently, one was documented having the cathedral headlights installed at the factory.

Craig

8E45E
10-15-2013, 01:52 PM
I love them all, and would have a hard time choosing a particular year...the 37 art deco trim is cool, the 38`s look the most truck like, and the 39`s have entered the fat-fendered era...but all of them need help with the back window. I figure Stude designers messed-up here, all CE`s have nice rounded compound curves everywhere, and then a dinky rectangular rear window stuck in. To me they look like an after thought...kinda like the design team forgot to put a rear window in, then got the a-ok from management to produce the vehicle as long as they put some rear glass in. Make it bigger, rounder, jelly-beany-er, but rectangular...really? JMO, junior.

It was probably designed that way to accommodate an optional sliding rear window. http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?55051-Mr-Richard-Quinn-s-1939-Studebaker-Coupe-Express

Craig

studegary
10-15-2013, 02:24 PM
The spare was optional. It was a delete for credit of like $4.;)

That would make the spare as standard equipment. Deleting it would be the option, resulting in a credit. Did that delete only delete the spare or did it also delete the well in the fender?

t walgamuth
10-15-2013, 06:08 PM
That would make the spare as standard equipment. Deleting it would be the option, resulting in a credit. Did that delete only delete the spare or did it also delete the well in the fender?

It got you a plain fender too.

t walgamuth
07-16-2014, 04:34 PM
I'd like to see a 37 with the headlights of a 39 in the fenders.

LeoH
07-29-2014, 12:19 AM
I saw this page today, while wandering around yesterday: http://www.shorey.net/Auto/American/Studebaker/1948-53%20Studebaker%20Coupe-Express%20Styling%20Sketches%20by%20Loewry.jpg

clonelark
07-29-2014, 03:32 AM
On the rear window a perfect one would be like the 34-5 Land Cruiser had. But where would you ever find one.
http://i62.tinypic.com/34gtsp3.jpg

Studebaker Wheel
07-29-2014, 11:42 AM
I saw this page today, while wandering around yesterday: http://www.shorey.net/Auto/American/Studebaker/1948-53%20Studebaker%20Coupe-Express%20Styling%20Sketches%20by%20Loewry.jpg

Yes, these renderings were done by Frank Peiler editor of Collectible Automobile some years ago.

t walgamuth
07-29-2014, 12:08 PM
On the rear window a perfect one would be like the 34-5 Land Cruiser had. But where would you ever find one.
http://i62.tinypic.com/34gtsp3.jpg

This is very similar to the color I have picked for my CE. My wife thinks its boring but I like it as being a dignified and period appropriate color, unlike orange, which is my favorite color.

LeoH
07-29-2014, 02:18 PM
I like the 48 example. Not so much the Avanti version.

DEEPNHOCK
07-29-2014, 03:29 PM
I like 'em all....

Guido
07-29-2014, 06:26 PM
any additional pics of the three in pic #1?

I lost most of my pictures of the meets at Chester and Nancy's when Webshots went away, but found these in a Photobucket album.

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/Bradfields2009033.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/Bradfields2009002.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/Bradfields2009003.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o175/guidosalvage/Bradfields2009004.jpg

johnod
07-29-2014, 07:13 PM
I absolutely admire a well done restoration on a Coupe Express or 53-54 Coupe or Hardtop, but if there are ANY Studes that cry out to be modified, these are the ones. I'm not talking about extreme modifications, I'm talking taking the timeless shape and removing the unnecessary barbs, correcting the stance, and making a smooth vehicle even smoother. I believe the designers of these cars would completely agree with what has been done to examples like this 37.


This is my opinion as well, just a little polish to what was already beautiful.
That 37 is very nice.