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Hippie
09-12-2007, 07:45 AM
OK, the 224 is running and quite nicely I might add but it isn't in my nature to leave anything stock or original so I have to do SOMETHING to it. Having seen some Rat Rods with dressed out Stude V-8's I would like to do some period correct "hop ups" I also believe I want to keep the 224 unless I fall into a sweet deal on a 259 or 289. If I do this I will be building what will be primarily a Bonneville inspired cruiser that will see lots of highway miles on weekends etc. I have seen some twin 2 Bbl. intakes on Stude powered rat rods and while I know my stock 4 bbl. is a more efficient setup I can't help thinking how cool that would look under the hood of my '55, also I want to pump up the "audio" aspects of my V-8 and would like to add a bit more cam, how would the R-2 cam work in a 224? For exhaust I plan to keep the stock exhaust manifolds with dual headpipes back to a dual inlet/single outlet performance muffler like a Magna Glow, Flow Master or something similar with a 3" single tail pipe. I don't want to cut the other side of my rear valance plus it's different.

It appears my '55 has a Dana 27 but since I don't plan any Banzai launches or "bang shifting" with the 3 on the tree and I'll be running nothing larger than a 225/70 tire I'm not too worried about it and don't even plan on installing a posi. I just want decent highway performance with some eye candy under the hood.

Any thoughts or suggestions? TIA

Analog man in a digital world.

lstude
09-12-2007, 08:19 AM
There are several Studebaker vendors who specialize in speed equipment for Studebaker V8s. One is Dave Thibeault. His number is: 978-897-3158

This is a 3-2's manifold that he has. It is on a later model engine, but I think it will fit on yours.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Reedsville2006017.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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Mike Van Veghten
09-12-2007, 09:16 AM
The 2x2 can be had in a few places. None are cheap. Lionel Stone (regular Stude vendor) normally has one or two for sale in his bunch of stuff. As mentioned above Dave probably has the best collection of manifolds in one place of anyone around. Give him a call and ask about all is manifolds.
On that 3x2 manif., it looks good...but the performance won't be up to what you think it should be because of the internal design.

Have fun.

Mike

Hippie
09-12-2007, 10:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by Mike Van Veghten

On that 3x2 manif., it looks good...but the performance won't be up to what you think it should be because of the internal design.

Have fun.

Mike


If it can at least equal the stock 4 Bbl. I'll be OK with that. I'm gettin' old, I just like to look fast now not actually go fast. I think I've finally outgrown that. I still like to play with cars though. ;):D

Analog man in a digital world.

Allan Songer
09-12-2007, 11:13 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

I thought the 224 was basically a destroked 259, so it should have the "good" (OK, better than 232) heads. Probably a better engine to "build" than a 232 if I am understanding it correctly...

nate

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YEP

Yep

N8N
09-12-2007, 11:15 AM
I thought the 224 was basically a destroked 259, so it should have the "good" (OK, better than 232) heads. Probably a better engine to "build" than a 232 if I am understanding it correctly...

nate

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Hippie
09-12-2007, 08:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by lstude

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/Reedsville2006017.jpg



That would look sweet under the hood!

On the subject of 224 heads, if I were to upgrade to a 289 crank and pistons would the 224 heads be adequate for a basic driver that will never see the high side of 5,000 RPM?

Thanks for all the great replies by the way. I'm soaking it all in. [8D]

Analog man in a digital world.

whacker
09-12-2007, 08:37 PM
I think the heads are the same for the 224 - 259 - 289. If you look on the top of the center exhaust outlet on the head, you will find a casting number. Go here:
http://www.studebaker-info.org/text3/Headcasting.html
to decode the numbers you find.

If you are just going for looks on the intake, get an early Cadillac V8 intake, it can be made to fit, and they are available as 2 X 4 and 3 X 2.

Vintage speed:
http://www.vintagespeed.com/
sells dress-up parts like aluminum valve covers and valley covers.

If you get a later model aluminum timing cover and a chrome gas pump hole cover, you can really dress it up for looks.

Just a few suggestions.

Swifster
09-12-2007, 08:58 PM
What everyone else mentioned, plus keeping an attention to detail. Stainless fuel lines to the carb(s) should polish up nicely. The acorn nuts used the engine pictured above are another good example. Also as mentioned, finned valve covers and valley pans are available, chrome coil covers (and coils) are available thru various suppliers including Mallory. While many chrome accessories are not available to the extent that they are on SBC, there is nothing stopping you (except $$$) from chrome plating the timing cover, the standard valve covers, or the valley plate. The same is true with the thermostat housing and making your own fuel pump block off plate. Good luck with your project.

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Tom - Valrico, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $1755.45)

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Hippie
09-12-2007, 09:01 PM
Great stuff guys! [8D]

Analog man in a digital world.

rockne10
09-12-2007, 09:30 PM
quote:making your own fuel pump block off plate.
A&A Auto already has those in chrome![8D] And they're cheap. If you don't have one near you, check Pep Boys.

Jerry Forrester
09-12-2007, 09:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by rockne10


quote:making your own fuel pump block off plate.
A&A Auto already has those in chrome![8D] And they're cheap. If you don't have one near you, check Pep Boys.


So do I.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FUEL-PUMP-BLOCK-OFF-PLATE-STUDEBAKER-CHEVROLET-CHROME_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33555QQihZ003QQitemZ130100339065

Jerry Forrester
Be sure to check out my eBay store
http://stores.ebay.com/CHROME-CHROME-CHROME_
for your shiny Stude stuff
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