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maxpower1954
09-23-2013, 04:40 PM
A 1960 Studebaker (sources state it was a 1960 beige Lark) has been found in a creek in South Dakota. 17 years old Pam Jackson and Sherri Miller were on the way to a party in May 1971 and never arrived. The car will be examined for forensic evidence. A press conference is scheduled for 4:00 P.M. CDT, check the link below as it will be carried live. Sad story, I hope this brings closure for the families after all these years. Russ Farris

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/car-connected-to-1971-missing-girls-case-found-in-union-county/?id=153591

maxpower1954
09-23-2013, 06:50 PM
More detailed info. Also reported elsewhere remains were found.

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130923/ARGUS911/130923014/Vehicle-connected-1971-missing-persons-case-found

StudeRich
09-23-2013, 07:08 PM
I checked the Keloland SD TV Station after your first post and the Mid-Day News did not have the Video yet, but later I got the 5:00 News complete live (taped) story. It seems they figured out from the submerged '60 Studebaker (most likely a Lark) that the Wheel Covers or Hub Cabs and License Plate matched the missing Studebaker (good Ol Stainless Steel Stude. Parts!) but lifting it out of the water in ONE piece is not possible, it's breaking up DAH! 1971 to 2013 is only 42 years!

They had NO pictures except a reporter Guy talking. :(

It is really sad that the most likely suspect of the two 17 year old girls murder has not been able to be prosecuted, yet anyway.

JRoberts
09-23-2013, 07:15 PM
Kinda spooky......

handworn
09-23-2013, 08:35 PM
Where was it reported that remains were found?


More detailed info. Also reported elsewhere remains were found.

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20130923/ARGUS911/130923014/Vehicle-connected-1971-missing-persons-case-found

HAWK64
09-23-2013, 09:10 PM
Wow, this discovery just after the remains of six people were found in two submerged vehicles in a lake in Oklahoma.

RadioRoy
09-23-2013, 09:56 PM
It is really sad that the most likely suspect of the two 17 year old girls murder has not been able to be prosecuted, yet anyway.

It's usually better to prove guilt before prosecuting.

maxpower1954
09-23-2013, 11:05 PM
Where was it reported that remains were found?

On a Mopar web board, unconfirmed so far. They are excavating the car in place because it is very fragile after 42 years in the water.

My personal guess is the girls will be found inside. It's less than 1/2 mile from the gravel pit party they were heading to.

Russ Farris

Dan Timberlake
09-24-2013, 09:22 AM
A buddy sent me this link to a British newspaper article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2430237/Car-South-Dakota-believed-linked-Pam-Jackson-Cheryl-Miller-vanished-1971.html

showbizkid
09-24-2013, 10:59 AM
Wow... lot of weird "missing people in car" cases turning up lately.

StudeRich
09-24-2013, 02:53 PM
Really? A "Mail ON Line" British newspaper has much more detail about a South Dakota USA cold case than anyone HERE does? :confused: :ohmy:

Technology is certainly changing things!

Interesting that someone must have searched the Web for a Pic of a Beige '60 Lark and came up with a '61 Lark 4 Door in Autumn Haze on Wikipedia! :D

QUOTE: "The girls were last seen driving a 1960 Studebaker Lark - the same make, model and year of this car"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2430237/Car-South-Dakota-believed-linked-Pam-Jackson-Cheryl-Miller-vanished-1971.html#ixzz2fqERBjV9
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63t-cab
09-24-2013, 04:15 PM
Rich, why should it be any different than in the movies with accuracy :confused::D QUOTE=StudeRich;782231]Really? A "Mail ON Line" British newspaper has much more detail about a South Dakota USA cold case than anyone HERE does? :confused: :ohmy:

Technology is certainly changing things!

Interesting that someone must have searched the Web for a Pic of a Beige '60 Lark and came up with a '61 Lark 4 Door in Autumn Haze on Wikipedia! :D

QUOTE: "The girls were last seen driving a 1960 Studebaker Lark - the same make, model and year of this car"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2430237/Car-South-Dakota-believed-linked-Pam-Jackson-Cheryl-Miller-vanished-1971.html#ixzz2fqERBjV9
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maxpower1954
09-24-2013, 05:24 PM
Discussion on Mopar board, scroll on down for aerial view of recovery operation. Russ Farris

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=7863173

maxpower1954
09-24-2013, 06:48 PM
Officially reported human remains found in 1960 Lark in South Dakota. Link to article and a few pictures which answered my question - full wheel covers or dog dish hubcaps? I'm glad the families finally know what happened to their girls over 42 years ago. Russ Farris

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/officials-find-skeletal-remains-in-union-county/?id=153657


http://siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/skeletal-remains-found-in-car-pulled-from-union-county-creek/article_07fa4578-d5ae-5eca-8d83-d7a04f02bd72.html

BobPalma
09-24-2013, 07:26 PM
Discussion on Mopar board, scroll on down for aerial view of recovery operation. Russ Farris

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=7863173

'Gotta' love 300by500's post on the MoPar board in the above link.

I'll tell ya' one thing, having looked at the remains: The probability of finding the Studebaker's Secret Serial Number on the rear of that frame is well south of zero. :oops: BP

maxpower1954
09-24-2013, 08:02 PM
"'Gotta' love 300by500's post on the MoPar board in the above link."

At first, I found his remark in bad taste. But like a good SNL skit or a "Family Guy" Michael J. Fox joke, I found myself laughing in spite of myself.

About 14 years ago, a 66 Impala was recovered in a lake near Charlotte. Inside the trunk were the skeletal remains of a man missing since 1978 - murdered and sunk in the lake with his own car for a tomb.

This sad story out of South Dakota has me wondering how many other unknown Studebakers are still hiding their grisly secrets, forgotten at the bottom of a lake or a canyon.`

Russ Farris

fargoguy
09-24-2013, 08:46 PM
So I was reading through the story, and I scroll down the daily mail uk story to the pic of the Lark- hey THAT'S MY CAR in the pic!

Mark L
09-24-2013, 09:40 PM
The media have been reporting for a few hours now that the police did find remains inside the Lark.

Mark L

DEEPNHOCK
09-25-2013, 06:21 AM
Really? Really?
Who said it was murder?
Who was trying to prosecute?
Not taking sides here, but it sure looks like, way back when, someone in law enforcement, or the legal profession, wanted to prosecute someone...anyone.
What if they simple drove off the bridge by accident?
Accidents happen, you know.
Lot's of questions then.... Lot's of questions now.....



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It is really sad that the most likely suspect of the two 17 year old girls murder has not been able to be prosecuted, yet anyway.

StudeRich
09-25-2013, 03:01 PM
Really? Really?
Who said it was murder?
Who was trying to prosecute?
Not taking sides here, but it sure looks like, way back when, someone in law enforcement, or the legal profession, wanted to prosecute someone...anyone.
What if they simple drove off the bridge by accident?
Accidents happen, you know.
Lot's of questions then.... Lot's of questions now.....

Sorry, I guess I bought all the early on Media BS, that was the FIRST day the News broke that I said that, believing what they were at the time saying about the "Suspect" who already went to Trial for the two Murders and a miss-trail was declared at the time with no bodies. :o

They have since became totally Neutral like they probably SHOULD have been in the beginning, not even Officially releasing if the bodies were found or not, in the TV Station taped interview with the Sherriff and two other Authorities.

LeoH
09-25-2013, 06:52 PM
Wow, this discovery just after the remains of six people were found in two submerged vehicles in a lake in Oklahoma.

This is a weird coincidence, to me.

BobPalma
10-01-2013, 12:48 PM
Bump.

Has there been any further information available on this?

Pix of the removed Studebaker? :confused: BP

M15 Trucker
10-01-2013, 03:24 PM
This reminds me of the death of Hollywood writer Gary DeVore in 1996. Driving his SUV on his way back from Sante Fe, NM thru the Mojave Desert in California he disapered. Nobody knew where he could of gone or what happened to him or the SUV in open expanse of the desert. A year later an amateur sleuth retrace his route and determined he ran off the road and into the Calif. Aqueduct where it crosses hwy 14. CHP found the SUV there with his body in it. The Aqueduct is about 40' across and 30' deep.

Swifster
10-01-2013, 07:14 PM
Until the remains are positively identified, you probably won't hear much. This was from four days ago...

http://siouxfallsbusinessjournal.argusleader.com/article/20130927/NEWS/309270015/1971-cold-case-Pam-knew-roads-really-well-

DEEPNHOCK
10-17-2013, 06:36 PM
(Update 10/17/2013)

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/test-results-back-on-car-connected-to-missing-girls/?id=154711

SIOUX FALLS, SD - New information regarding the investigation into the disappearance of the two girls back in 1971 has been released.
Pam Jackson and Sherri Miller were last seen heading to a party in rural Union County. On September 23, a 1960 Studebaker believed to be related to the case was found along Brule Creek.
According to Attorney General Marty Jackley, mechanical tests on the Studebaker found it was in third gear, the highest gear in the car. That leads authorities to believe foul play wasn't likely involved in the girls' disappearance.
The skeletal remains were sent to a forensic pathologist in Sioux Falls. The results confirmed that they belonged to two different individuals.
The bones have been sent for DNA testing at the University of Texas, with the hopes of identification. The testing can take anywhere from 30-90 days before getting results.
The investigation is ongoing.

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Attorney General Reveals Latest In Missing Persons Investigation (http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/attorney-general-reveals-latest-in-missing-persons-investigation/?id=154722)KELOLAND TV - ?15 minutes ago?
Investigators have been very tight-lipped about the investigation involving a Studebaker found in Union County less than a month ago. According to South Dakota Attorney General Marty Jackley, that car is connected to the disappearance of Sherri Miller and ...



Cold case investigation reveals new information on bodies, car (http://www.argusleader.com/article/20131017/NEWS/310170066/Cold-case-investigation-reveals-new-information-bodies-car)Sioux Falls Argus Leader - ?1 hour ago?
The South Dakota Attorney General's office has been able to confirm two new pieces of information in the case of two girls who went missing in 1971. Pam Jackson and Sherri Miller disappeared while heading to a party in May 1971. They were last seen ...




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New Info On Missing Girls Case (http://www.kdlt.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30753&Itemid=57)
KDLT News - ?2 hours ago?

New information in the investigation of two girls who went missing in 1971 has been released. Attorney General Marty Jackley confirmed that tests done on skeletal remains found in a 1960 Studebaker last month were of two individuals. That DNA is being ...




AG releases information about skeletal remains found in Union Co - KSFY News ... (http://www.ksfy.com/story/23721296/south-dakota-attorney-general-releases-new-information)KSFY - ?2 hours ago?
Officials released new information today on the Union County cold case that has left investigators stumped for more than four decades. Back in September, law enforcement officials pulled an old Studebaker out of Brule Creek near Elk Point. The car is ...



Test Results Back On Car Connected To Missing Girls (http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/test-results-back-on-car-connected-to-missing-girls/?id=154711)KELOLAND TV - ?3 hours ago?
New information regarding the investigation into the disappearance of the two girls back in 1971 has been released. Pam Jackson and Sherri Miller were last seen heading to a party in rural Union County. On September 23, a 1960 Studebaker believed to be ...

DEEPNHOCK
01-03-2014, 09:19 AM
(Update)

No new info.....

http://www.argusleader.com/viewart/20140103/UPDATES/301030036/Still-no-ID-bones-found-Studebaker-involved-girls-1971-disappearance

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http://cmsimg.argusleader.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=DF&Date=20140103&Category=UPDATES&ArtNo=301030036&Ref=AR&MaxW=300&Border=0&Still-no-ID-bones-found-Studebaker-involved-girls-1971-disappearanceZOOM

From left, Sherri Miller and Pam Jackson / Submitted photos

Family members of two Vermillion girls who disappeared in 1971 have yet to find out if their remains were those in a car unearthed months ago.
Seventeen-year-olds Cheryl Miller and Pamella Jackson were last seen in the Studebaker on their way to a party at a nearby gravel pit.
The car was found upside down last September in an embankment in Brule Creek near Alcester.
Cold case: More coverage of 1971 disapearance (http://www.argusleader.com/section/coldcase)
A forensic pathologist confirmed that skeletal remains found inside the car are consistent with being from two different people Attorney General Marty Jackley said hes waiting for the University of North Texas to identify the remains using DNA testing.
He said earlier that a mechanical test points away from foul play being a factor because the car was in third gear, the highest.

ddub
01-03-2014, 10:20 AM
Funny the DNA tests are taking so long. On TV it takes about 5 minutes.

hausdok
01-03-2014, 11:26 AM
The car was in high gear. Sounds like it went off the road and into the water and a bank eventually collapsed onto it.

DEEPNHOCK
04-14-2014, 07:41 PM
(Update 4/14/2014)

http://siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/tests-of-skeletal-remains-in-missing-girls-case-to-be/article_2f2385be-8d1e-52e1-9283-36c551f9e340.html

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ELK POINT, S.D. |

The answer to the question of what happened to Pamella Jackson and Cheryl Miller may finally be answered Tuesday.
South Dakota Attorney General Marty Jackley has scheduled a press conference for 1:30 p.m. Tuesday at the Union County Courthouse in Elk Point to discuss the results of forensic testing of the skeletal remains, an old vehicle unearthed in September and its contents.
Jackson and Miller, both 17, of Vermillion, S.D., were last seen riding in a 1960 Studebaker Lark on May 29, 1971, on their way to a party at a rural Union County gravel pit. The car was found Sept. 25, 2013, in the bank of Brule Creek just south of the bridge over 310th Street, about a half-mile from the gravel pit where it's believed they were headed.
Skeletal remains discovered inside the car were sent to a Texas laboratory for DNA testing to determine if the remains belonged to either of the girls.
After testing the vehicle, authorities said it was stuck in high gear, an indication that foul play may not have been involved, though Jackley last fall declined to speculate on how the car ended up in the creek.
A South Dakota Penitentiary inmate, David Lykken, of rural Alcester, S.D., was indicted on murder charges in the case in 2007. The charges were later dismissed after authorities learned that a jailhouse informant who claimed to have taped Lykken confessing to killing the girls had faked the recordings.
Since the discovery of the vehicle, authorities have declined to say if Lykken remains a suspect in the case.
Jackley, Union County Sheriff Dan Limoges, Union County States Attorney Jerry Miller and Clay County Sheriff Andy Howe will discuss the findings and the case status Tuesday.

StudeRich
04-14-2014, 07:52 PM
"The Car was found Sept. 25, 2013" and the SD Lab is just NOW coming up with DNA findings!
Could they really be THAT slow in SD? :ohmy:

5brown1
04-14-2014, 08:08 PM
"The Car was found Sept. 25, 2013" and the SD Lab is just NOW coming up with DNA findings!
Could they really be THAT slow in SD? :ohmy:

DNA testing from the UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS. Sometimes it is necessary to read the articles.

BobPalma
04-14-2014, 08:28 PM
What an incredibly fascinating story this has been. It's too bad, IIRC, that at least one of the girls' parents (a father, I believe) went to his grave just before the discovery was made, not knowing for 32 years what had happened to his 17-year old daughter in 1971. :(

Please post anything further you find, Jeff. Thanks again. :cool: BP

14x7
04-14-2014, 09:18 PM
Maybe the steering broke and they went off the bridge!

BobWaitz
04-15-2014, 02:35 PM
Full story here:

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/remains-found-in-car-are-missing-girls/?id=163119

DEEPNHOCK
04-15-2014, 03:15 PM
They did ID the missing girls as the ones found in the car.... Announced at press conference this afternoon.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2605271/Have-Pam-Cheryl-Test-results-shed-light-skeletons-recovered-Studebaker-creek-two-teens-went-missing-1971.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

RadioRoy
04-15-2014, 03:17 PM
not knowing for 32 years what had happened to his 17-year old daughter in 1971. :(

BP

42 years, Bob - unless my math is way off.

BobPalma
04-15-2014, 03:28 PM
42 years, Bob - unless my math is way off.

Right, Roy. (Ironically, I remember computing 42 years in my head and must've typed 32 and not even seen the mistake before posting.) :oops: BP

StudeRich
04-15-2014, 03:40 PM
DNA testing from the UNIVERSITY OF NORTH TEXAS. Sometimes it is necessary to read the articles."New Info On Missing Girls Caseby KDLT News
October 17, 2013 3:14 PM
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New information in the investigation of two girls who went missing in 1971 has been released.

Attorney General Marty Jackley confirmed that tests done on skeletal remains found in a 1960 Studebaker last month were of two individuals. That DNA is being sent to the University of North Texas to try and confirm the identities of the remains.

Jackley also says mechanical tests were done on the car. The car was found in third gear, which is the highest gear in the car. Officials say that information means that there was likely no foul play involved.

Pam Jackson and Sherri Miller were last seen heading to a party in rural Union County in 1971. Last month, a 1960 Studebaker believed to be related to the case was found in Brule Creek.

Jackley says it could take anywhere from 30 to 60 days for tests on the DNA to come back."

That sounds reasonable to me, 60 Days; Dec. 17, 2013, but yesterdays story 4/14/2014, said results coming, but still nothing!

63larkr1
04-16-2014, 11:54 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/04/16/cheryl-miller-pamela-jackson-were-killed-in-car-accident-authorities-say/

DEEPNHOCK
04-26-2014, 07:48 AM
And it is not over.......

http://siouxcityjournal.com/ap/state/sd-official-wants-to-unseal-documents-about-missing-vermillion-teens/article_247916ec-96a9-5b9e-86d2-2cd2076ace0b.html

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SIOUX FALLS | The 1971 disappearance of two South Dakota girls has been ruled an accident, so South Dakota's attorney general wants to unseal three court documents from the now-closed criminal investigation.
Attorney General Marty Jackley said last week that Cheryl Miller and Pamella Jackson were killed when their Studebaker drove off a gravel road and landed in a creek. The 17-year-old Vermillion High School juniors were on their way to a party at a nearby gravel pit.
His office filed a motion this week in Union County asking a judge to make public two search warrants and one affidavit supporting a search warrant from 2004 searches at the Alcester boyhood home of a man who was at one point charged with killing the girls.
Authorities said at the time that David Lykken might have been involved in the disappearance of Miller and Jackson as well as three other unnamed people. Lykken is in prison serving an unrelated 227-year sentence for rape and kidnapping.
In 2007, a Union County grand jury indicted Lykken on six murder counts in the disappearance of Miller and Jackson. State prosecutors later dropped all charges after concluding a jailhouse informant lied about Lykken admitting to killing the girls.
The attorney general's new motion to unseal the documents cites a South Dakota law that allows a judge to seal some documents until an investigation is terminated or someone is charged.
"I think the public should see what law enforcement had," Jackley said, referring to why the farm was searched.
However, the motion asks that the names and other information on three victims, two of them minors, be redacted.
"There's been enough concern as to what this did to several families. We're trying to prevent any further harm to numerous victims in this case," Jackley said Friday.
Attorney Mike Butler, of Sioux Falls, who represented Lykken, did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment.

DEEPNHOCK
05-22-2014, 06:18 AM
Funeral to be held on anniversary date of disappearance......

http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/girls-funeral-to-be-on-disappearance-anniversary/?id=164814

BobPalma
05-22-2014, 06:27 AM
Anyone with a daughter, or even a son, can only begin to imagine the horror these parents endured all these years...and, to a lesser extent, will now endure to their dying day.

My heart goes out to them a hundred times over, if that's possible. :(

Thanks for these updates, Jeff. BP

8E45E
05-22-2014, 07:13 AM
Anyone with a daughter, or even a son, can only begin to imagine the horror these parents endured all these years...and, to a lesser extent, will now endure to their dying day.

My heart goes out to them a hundred times over, if that's possible. :(

Thanks for these updates, Jeff. BP

Those two girls would be 60 now!! Their parents will most likely be in their eighties, if they are still alive.

Craig

BobPalma
05-22-2014, 07:16 AM
Those two girls would be 60 now!! Their parents will most likely be in their eighties, if they are still alive.

Craig

We know for sure one of their fathers has passed away, Craig...just a couple weeks before the car was found, sadly. :(

'Not sure about the other three parents. :confused: BP

DEEPNHOCK
05-22-2014, 07:38 AM
Think about their classmates, their families, and their friends...
Hopefully, many will remember them both...

BobPalma
05-22-2014, 08:24 AM
Think about their classmates, their families, and their friends...
Hopefully, many will remember them both...

:!: Roger that. I hope the church is packed. :D BP

556063
05-22-2014, 04:21 PM
If you click on the slideshow arrows in the Fox News article posted by 63Larkr1, you can see some of the personal items found in the car. Given the condition of the Lark, it is amazing those items survived. Especially the paper notes passed in a high school class 43 years ago!

Some reports even had a picture of the odometer which was frozen at 30,865:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/624396-missing-sd-girls-1971-bodies-of-girls-finally-found-in-buried-car/

Boy, do I get a chill up my spine now every time I sit behind the wheel of our 1960. A sad story but I am relieved those still around related to it now have closure.

BobPalma
05-22-2014, 07:45 PM
The car was 11 years old in a rural area with many miles between businesses, farms, towns, etc. It The odometer had undoubtedly turned over at least once, to be registering the indicated 30,865 miles.

Anyone notice the HD front sway bar on the Lark? It must have been a V8. :cool: BP

556063
05-22-2014, 08:15 PM
My brother and I got into a lengthy discussion about the 30,865 vs. 130,865 factor when he found the story and sent it to me. Both of us owned several 60's and 70's vintage cars that had turned over at least once, and we agreed that odometer looked awfully straight for a 100,000+ mile odometer. But who knows, 42 years of water currents could have floated or lined those digits up more perfectly! Still amazing the details that survived the decay.

BobPalma
05-22-2014, 08:31 PM
Another reality about the odometer probably being on its second revolution is that they mention a thin-tread tire; one of them. The original tires would probably not have lasted 30,000 miles, but if her grandfather owned it, as has been reported, he probably would have had good titres on it, possibly a whole new set, if it was only 30,000 miles.

'Too bad all this isn't of interest to the investigators, because those of us in SDC Land could likely answer a few more questions if we were given the opportunity to examine the car.

OTOH, maybe the 30,000 is the correct mileage...if it was 130,000, it probably would have been leaking so much oil that they would have spotted an oil slick in the creek and located it years ago. :eek: BP

556063
05-22-2014, 09:01 PM
Hard to say Bob. I just replaced with Coker Classic Radials the set of bias ply Universal repro's I bought in 1988 on my '55 last year. Using the old "X" rotation pattern for bias, the worst tread wear was on the right rear tire which had spent most of it's time on the left front. My tires had less than 10K miles on them. It had worn almost bald on the inside because of a slight misalignment. I remember going to a Mobil Station with my grandmother to buy new tires for her 1971 Chevy Nova, and I think we sold that car after she passed with about 45K miles on it. It needed tires again when we sold it in 1979.

Given all the factors about car care in the early 70's, it would make it even more difficult to know what really happened here. Since they were bias tires most likely, dropping one off the edge of a bridge would have been way more dangerous than it would have been with modern radials. I always hated stoplights with any kind of heavy truck ruts when I had the bias tires on my '55. The radials have made it a totally different car. We take for granted sometimes how far we've come since 1971.

handworn
05-23-2014, 04:52 PM
Maybe, but about 10,000 miles per year is about average today, when interstates and car culture have caused many of the things we want and need to go to to be farther apart. This, I think, is a major reason why so many barn finds are relatively low-mileage. My '53, for example, was put away in 1974, age 21, with only a little over 70,000 miles on it. For this one half that age to have 130,865 miles it would have had to have been driven almost 12,000 miles a year, every year since new. And this belonged to one of their grandfathers, IIRC; would a retiree back then drive so much? I'd say 130K is possible, but I'd put my money on 30K.


The car was 11 years old in a rural area with many miles between businesses, farms, towns, etc. It The odometer had undoubtedly turned over at least once, to be registering the indicated 30,865 miles.

Anyone notice the HD front sway bar on the Lark? It must have been a V8. :cool: BP

Mikado282
05-24-2014, 10:14 AM
Hope it brings final closure to the remaining family members.

When I started driving in 1966 you were lucky to 12,000 miles out of a set of premium 4 ply polyester\rayon tires and less from 2 ply nylons which made your car go down the road like a drunken sailor. Once in a poverty moment I bought some retreads and got a whopping 5,000 miles out of them. Tires were one thing that weren't too good in the good old days. Anyone remember sawdust cap snow tires?

DEEPNHOCK
05-29-2014, 07:32 PM
The funeral was just held (for Sherri Miller)....
The video is sad, but a lot of friends showed up....

http://www.ktiv.com/story/25646373/2014/05/29/after-43-years-missing-south-dakota-teen-laid-to-rest

And an interview and video with Sherri's sister....

http://www.ktiv.com/story/25645364/2014/05/29/video-sherri-millers-sister-shares-a-bittersweet-memory