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63avanti.
08-09-2013, 10:23 PM
http://quadcities.craigslist.org/cto/3936395025.html

I have seen this Avanti up for sale for I want to say almost a year now... Looks like a lot of "interesting" modifications... :ohmy:

Is a car like this a lost cause, Avanti wise without the numbers matching motor/trans. and looks like it would take a lot of man hours to remove and cover the message panel and who else knows what is wired into it..

Milaca
08-09-2013, 10:55 PM
Looks good in the photos (as they usually do). Might be a good buy if the frame is good.

bezhawk
08-10-2013, 08:38 AM
Anyone else thinking new wiring harness?

62champ
08-10-2013, 08:43 AM
Anyone else thinking new wiring harness?

I was thinking how the radiator could get a good breath of fresh air with all that junk in the intake...

http://images.craigslist.org/3E33Jb3N25E85H45M2d7edf3141053b261e5f.jpg

sweetolbob
08-10-2013, 08:56 AM
The only thing that would cause me to pause is the frame rust issue. If bad, it will never bring the cost that it is currently.

The sign is probably just tapped off a switched 12 V source and the driving lights would be attached to the front bell crank. Again, an easy remove, I'll bet.

If the original engine is long gone, then leave the SBC alone add a 200R4 for highway cruising(if desired) and put it back on the road.

Unless there is something special about it, R2-3-4 heritage then why is it worth less? It's currently a high mileage Avanti with the better looking head lights and no restoration in OK shape.


I'd sure want it for much less if I had to attack the frame and hog troughs.


Bob

nels
08-10-2013, 09:01 AM
Stude engines are not that difficult to find.

52hawk
08-10-2013, 09:07 AM
One of my pet peeves-are ads that go into all history of the vehicle,with almost no description of the vehicle for sale. there is no hint as to true condition of the car.

63avanti.
08-10-2013, 09:10 AM
Just wasn't sure. At his asking price it seems for about 6000$ more a original 63 could be had. I didn't want to insult the owner with a low ball offer but thought someone could lay down some insight on the car. I have heard both sides from avanti owners. Some say to buy them already finished and some say you need to buy a project....

avantilover
08-10-2013, 09:15 AM
The trick so to speak with buying a restored car is to get one done properly. I imagine that a member of the Avanti Owners Association could be near that car and be willing to look at it for or with you.

Good luck if you purchase it.

Bob Langer
08-10-2013, 09:41 AM
The sign is probably just tapped off a switched 12 V source and the driving lights would be attached to the front bell crank. Again, an easy remove, I'll bet.

Bob

This Avanti was owned by Tom Nara of Pittsburgh,PA. The photos are from the Avanti Newsletter.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff143/regnalbob/TomNaraAvanti003_zps47ac7022.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/regnalbob/media/TomNaraAvanti003_zps47ac7022.jpg.html)


http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff143/regnalbob/TomNaraAvanti001_zps33a237f6.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/regnalbob/media/TomNaraAvanti001_zps33a237f6.jpg.html)

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff143/regnalbob/TomNaraAvanti002_zps0588e88d.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/regnalbob/media/TomNaraAvanti002_zps0588e88d.jpg.html)

jclary
08-10-2013, 09:46 AM
Just wasn't sure. At his asking price it seems for about 6000$ more a original 63 could be had. I didn't want to insult the owner with a low ball offer but thought someone could lay down some insight on the car. I have heard both sides from avanti owners. Some say to buy them already finished and some say you need to buy a project....

Well...as many that have been participating on this forum know...there is at least one thread titled something like "there is no worse bargain than a cheap Avanti." Or at least the conclusions seems to support that train of thought.

I have owned and have restored several cars. I have also assisted others with theirs. Never an Avanti. I Like almost all vintage cars, and would love to have an Avanti. However, if you ever see me with one, you can bet, it was either a bargain, a gift, or I won the lottery!

Let's be honest...Avanti, or any vintage car...they are never finished. You may complete a major restoration...but there is always something to do. In that light, they are always a "project." No matter what the name badge on the beast sitting in your garage...it will forever need something. The one that is the subject of this thread is no different. As far as the price listed...you can probably buy a burger for four bucks or twenty bucks. It all depends on what you are willing to spend to satisfy your taste and hunger.

My problem is, I keep getting hungry. Even though I have bought and satisfied my hunger for vintage cars many times. The sad truth, just like food, some dishes look better than they taste.

One thing about craigslist, most folks are willing to bargain with you. A phone call won't hurt. Except for the fact that crazy people, thieves, robbers, and murderers, have just as easy access to the venue...bargains can be had.

sweetolbob
08-10-2013, 09:51 AM
This Avanti was owned by Tom Nara of Pittsburgh,PA. The photos are from the Avanti Newsletter.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff143/regnalbob/TomNaraAvanti003_zps47ac7022.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/regnalbob/media/TomNaraAvanti003_zps47ac7022.jpg.html)


As usual Bob, you continue to bring forward neat pieces of Avanti's past. With all I see here, I'd keep the swivel lights (as a pair) and just clean up the surrounding area of the rest of the lights.

Bob

sweetolbob
08-10-2013, 10:06 AM
Just wasn't sure. At his asking price it seems for about 6000$ more a original 63 could be had. I didn't want to insult the owner with a low ball offer but thought someone could lay down some insight on the car. I have heard both sides from avanti owners. Some say to buy them already finished and some say you need to buy a project....

It just depends on your vision and plan for the end result.

If you do your own work and want a driver/local show vehicle then this is the type of Avanti you want. This is my territory.

How can you embarrass an owner that has a car sitting for a year or so and you offer him a lower, although fairer market value.


If you want exceptional show/judging quality then buy the best you can find and get Brad to bring it to that level.


If I wanted a 63, and I do, I'd be all over this one like stink on you know what if the frame was salvageable. The trouble is I'm maxed out on them currently so go take a look and see if your skills/vision match this car at a lower value.

They make a great driver in this configuration.

As an aside, I've built/sold probably a dozen cars in the last 40 years that started like this or worse. I've always got my parts costs back with a small/large?? profit but, as for my hourly rate, don't ask. I've probably worked for $0.02/Hr. But I've saved several hundred thousand in counseling and mental professional charges so who's ahead now.

None of us can tell you what to do, it's your vision and decision. It could be a great/reasonable cost driver or a show car that becomes another expensive, cheap Avanti. If you want an OEM Studebaker powered one, Look elsewhere, this ain't for you, too much trouble and there are better ones available without all the Mishigas.

Bob

Bob Langer
08-10-2013, 10:09 AM
As usual Bob, you continue to bring forward neat pieces of Avanti's past. With all I see here, I'd keep it (as a pair) and just clean up the surrounding area of the rest of the lights.

Bob


http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff143/regnalbob/TomNaraAvanti004_zps3c945c0c.jpg (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/regnalbob/media/TomNaraAvanti004_zps3c945c0c.jpg.html)