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63larkcustom
07-06-2013, 02:44 PM
The person I sold the pink 59 to a few years ago contacted me today offering my old car back to me. Apparently it has a blown head gasket. I did the paint/body work on the car a few years ago and it was running well when it was sold, it made a trip to texas and back under its own steam. I have no idea what its value is as I've been out of this for a while and now can bring it back as a toy rather than daily transportation. Its a 59 basic Lark 2 door sedan 3 speed/overdrive with flathead 6 and hill-holder. There are a few questions in my mind that can't be addressed till the engine is cracked open.. a. is the block cracked or head warped.
b. how long did the engine run allowing coolant/oil to mix.. meaning bearings throughout.

Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated

raprice
07-06-2013, 05:22 PM
I wish I can help you with the car's value, but you can look it up in the "Old Cars Price Guide." Of course, if there is engine damage, you must deduct the cost of an engine rebuild. I have a '59 Lark Regal Hardtop VI and it's worth around $7000 to $8000 as it stands. It's a number 3 condition. I hope this helps.
Rog

5859
07-06-2013, 05:31 PM
If it is physically still in the same condition as when you sold it, I would say it is worth what you sold it for minus the price of an engine rebuild. If you are not sure if the engine will need a rebuild or not, I would deduct half the price of a rebuild. At least this is the way I think it will be seen by the current owner.

63larkcustom
07-06-2013, 06:01 PM
What does a flathead Six rebuild run these days? The car is in central California and would most likely like to send it to someone reputable. Its probably gonna need synchros in the t-96 by now as a few years ago it would occasionally pop out of gear under load going down hill.

jackb
07-07-2013, 09:25 AM
for that kind of $$$ the car should be immaculate !

StudeRich
07-07-2013, 03:09 PM
You could consider dropping it at Studebakers West in Redwood City on the way to So, Calif. for analysis and possible rebuild, you have to talk to Carl about that.

That way, you get an honest opinion and very good work if needed.

Value of a '59 Lark VI Deluxe 2 Dr. Sedan, cosmetically restored with a broken Six, about $3000.00 IMHO.

sals54
07-07-2013, 04:54 PM
I would agree with most above. The only other consideration is the condition of the engine itself. I would be concerned about the block and head as well. That being said, I would also seriously think of changing to a 259 3 speed. As you are going to need engine and trans work anyway, switch over to V8 power and enjoy driving it out on the open road with a bit more confidence. The rebuild costs would be similar, and the ancillary pieces and parts needed to upgrade the brakes and springs will be nominal compared to the pep and vigor you'll experience with the V8 over the 6. With overdrive, you'll be getting about the same or better gas mileage as the 6, too.

studebakerjoe
07-08-2013, 08:28 PM
Do you have a picture of the pink 59 I would love to see it. My studebaker is a pink 59 just as my custom plates say...Judy joes wife

studebakerjoe
07-08-2013, 08:38 PM
For all its worth I have used. Nada to determine values of cars. Go on their website if you want and punch in information

LeoH
07-09-2013, 01:06 PM
Do you have a picture of the pink 59 I would love to see it. My studebaker is a pink 59 just as my custom plates say...Judy joes wife

What?! You haven't educated Android yet that Stude, Studie and Studebaker are words in its dictionary now?

jackb
07-09-2013, 01:45 PM
I think most of us agree that NADA is at least 15-20 % too high above the reasonable values...

LeoH
07-09-2013, 04:05 PM
The person I sold the pink 59 to a few years ago contacted me today offering my old car back to me. Apparently it has a blown head gasket. I did the paint/body work on the car a few years ago and it was running well when it was sold, it made a trip to texas and back under its own steam. I have no idea what its value is as I've been out of this for a while and now can bring it back as a toy rather than daily transportation. Its a 59 basic Lark 2 door sedan 3 speed/overdrive with flathead 6 and hill-holder. There are a few questions in my mind that can't be addressed till the engine is cracked open.. a. is the block cracked or head warped.
b. how long did the engine run allowing coolant/oil to mix.. meaning bearings throughout.

Any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Was that the coral Lark that was on C/L a few months ago? I hope not, that car was in beautiful shape.

studebakerjoe
07-09-2013, 04:41 PM
The android has a mind of its own I swear. Wi-Fi is nice but the desktop is better. Joe plays online games on it so I have to deal with this temperamental thing. Tablet is a cheap small thing and its more touchy to type things. I type and it sometimes changes the. Word to something else. Looks like I will have to proofread things at the rate this tablet is going.Studebaker is not in its vocabulary when it comes to typing stude it sometimes automatically comes up as student.

63larkcustom
07-12-2013, 01:44 PM
Yes, its the Coral one that was on craigslist. It is a beautiful car and perhaps an engine swap would be in order. Thanks for the replies. My schedule these days is kinda hectic. I'm still working with her on the pricing. Depending on how bad the engine is may do the 259 swap and fom or have an aod transmission installed. If I remember right, the frame on the 59 sedan is a lighter gauge, so might not be feasible for the V8. Here is a video link for youtube where she was trying to sell the car. Cosmetically the only thing it needs is the firewall cover put back to the black as it was. All of the before pictures are my work. The door panels, weatherstrip, and firewall cover were completed by the cars current owner. This is one of the rescues from Bob Peterson's yard. www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqSC9kadyPk

jackb
07-12-2013, 03:25 PM
I wouldn't be too concerned about the frame thickness...there are many rusty thicker frames with V8's that show now cracks or problems. Give me a rust free thin frame any day over a rusty thick one...

LeoH
07-12-2013, 11:19 PM
I saw that one too early for when I went to look for a car or I'd have seriously considered buying it. I don't regret my wagon, but I'd have bought your car if I had had the opportunity. I liked it. Pink, maybe, but different and not too pink. For me anyhoo.

candbstudebakers
07-13-2013, 12:47 AM
Bob, do you think I could get it back for the price I sold it to you??? maybe a few bucks more because it looks to have A/C now...Bob

StudeRich
07-13-2013, 12:02 PM
Here is a much more drive-able '59 Lark Regal VIII 4 Door if you can deal with 4 Doors, it APPEARS to be a very nice Car but it IS in Ohio so underside caution must be considered.

Even though this one looks Black, I believe it actually is very Dark Green, the interior is Green.

It just came up as a New Stude. eBay listing email.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Studebaker-Lark-4D-/251303441647?_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&forcev4exp=true

63larkcustom
07-13-2013, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the tip Rich, I have no aversion to 4 doors. Leo, if your car is a 62, that might be my old wagon I called Bertha. Bob, wouldn't that be a steal considering all the work that was done :-) But, if she don't run, she don't run. Things have improved dramatically financially, so a Studebaker for me is just for enjoyment. My house has a carport thats covered on the sides, so don't really want a show car, but something presentable out n about.

lakeview7
07-13-2013, 09:12 PM
Here is a much more drive-able '59 Lark Regal VIII 4 Door if you can deal with 4 Doors, it APPEARS to be a very nice Car but it IS in Ohio so underside caution must be considered.

Even though this one looks Black, I believe it actually is very Dark Green, the interior is Green.

It just came up as a New Stude. eBay listing email.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1959-Studebaker-Lark-4D-/251303441647?_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&forcev4exp=true

I went to Hubbard, OH today and looked at this car. It is dark green with the paint being less than perfect in several places. There was a sign for $6000 on the dash. The back bumper looks excellent with the front bumper suffering a couple of small dents in the excellent chrome. Just a quick look under seems to suggest a fairly solid car, but there were some small rust spots coming through the paint behind the front left wheel near the front lower edge of the driver's door. I could not get a real good look at the underside on this trip. It looks to at least need some TLC and small fixes from my quick inspection.
Larry

LeoH
07-14-2013, 01:10 PM
Thanks for the tip Rich, I have no aversion to 4 doors. Leo, if your car is a 62, that might be my old wagon I called Bertha. Bob, wouldn't that be a steal considering all the work that was done :-) But, if she don't run, she don't run. Things have improved dramatically financially, so a Studebaker for me is just for enjoyment. My house has a carport thats covered on the sides, so don't really want a show car, but something presentable out n about.

No, mine's a 60. Hope you find it a good home wherever it lands.