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kelmbaker
07-01-2013, 03:41 AM
I recently sold my Power Hawk, A car I loved. I literally had thousands upon thousands of dollars tied up in it. Somewhere I got the "buy low, sell high" concept all backwards. But I don't look at my cars as profit, they are a labor of love. I took my poor Power Hawk to a local shop that "knows Studebakers". Well after a year and a half and ruining the car in ways I couldn't begin to catalog, I had to sell it to a friend that is a good mechanic. This shop destroyed the car to the point it was beyond my skills to fix. My friend has it squared away after going through all the major systems of the car. Some of the things this shop did are unbelievable. Maybe he will sell it back when he gets bored with it. Here is my response to another old friend when he let me know of a couple of Studes that have come up for sale. Both cars need more than everything. But this is an addiction. Much worse than drugs (I imagine).

Bob,

I don't remember the cars, but that doesn't mean anything. I can't remember much. I traded out the guy who advertised all the Stude trucks awhile back ago for two of the T-Cabs. One is Terry's old truck (but with a 5 speed and a full flow). The other truck is a '63 with a 3 and over with a Rambler (!) twin stick. I have title on one and can get the title for the other. Both the trucks are way better than Terry's cars. The problem is I have no desire to work on them. After getting ripped off by the shop that "restored" the '56 Power Hawk (a car I really liked) I am hesitant to take my vehicles to anyone else. I really took a bath and sold the car for a pittance of what I had in it. I just had to stop the bleeding.

If I could find anyone who would do the work honestly, I would feel different. I also have a MGB that I bought from my friend Don's estate. It has been down at a shop in Phoenix, but I'm having déjà vu all over again. Mechanic won't call, doesn't give updates, But we'll see. After literally scores of cars (have you ever tried to add up all your cars?), including almost thirty Studebakers (I have a list), I would like one car that drives nice, doesn't break down, doesn't need paint, rust repair, a leaky carb, brakes that pull, sparking wiring, on and on and on.

At two years disability work terminates me. I have been off work for one year and ten months (not counting a six week attempt to go back). I then can collect my 401-K. Maybe then I can buy someone else's back breaking, tear producing, divorce causing tale of woe that they sunk too much money into, project.

Whew. There I got that off my back.

Still love old cars, but I don't think they love me. Never the less I sent Terry a note on the Daytona. I'm a glutton for punishment.

KM

JoeHall
07-01-2013, 11:14 AM
I recently sold my Power Hawk, A car I loved. I literally had thousands upon thousands of dollars tied up in it. Somewhere I got the "buy low, sell high" concept all backwards. But I don't look at my cars as profit, they are a labor of love. I took my poor Power Hawk to a local shop that "knows Studebakers". Well after a year and a half and ruining the car in ways I couldn't begin to catalog, I had to sell it to a friend that is a good mechanic. This shop destroyed the car to the point it was beyond my skills to fix. My friend has it squared away after going through all the major systems of the car. Some of the things this shop did are unbelievable. Maybe he will sell it back when he gets bored with it. Here is my response to another old friend when he let me know of a couple of Studes that have come up for sale. Both cars need more than everything. But this is an addiction. Much worse than drugs (I imagine).

Bob,

I don't remember the cars, but that doesn't mean anything. I can't remember much. I traded out the guy who advertised all the Stude trucks awhile back ago for two of the T-Cabs. One is Terry's old truck (but with a 5 speed and a full flow). The other truck is a '63 with a 3 and over with a Rambler (!) twin stick. I have title on one and can get the title for the other. Both the trucks are way better than Terry's cars. The problem is I have no desire to work on them. After getting ripped off by the shop that "restored" the '56 Power Hawk (a car I really liked) I am hesitant to take my vehicles to anyone else. I really took a bath and sold the car for a pittance of what I had in it. I just had to stop the bleeding.

If I could find anyone who would do the work honestly, I would feel different. I also have a MGB that I bought from my friend Don's estate. It has been down at a shop in Phoenix, but I'm having déjà vu all over again. Mechanic won't call, doesn't give updates, But we'll see. After literally scores of cars (have you ever tried to add up all your cars?), including almost thirty Studebakers (I have a list), I would like one car that drives nice, doesn't break down, doesn't need paint, rust repair, a leaky carb, brakes that pull, sparking wiring, on and on and on.

At two years disability work terminates me. I have been off work for one year and ten months (not counting a six week attempt to go back). I then can collect my 401-K. Maybe then I can buy someone else's back breaking, tear producing, divorce causing tale of woe that they sunk too much money into, project.

Whew. There I got that off my back.

Still love old cars, but I don't think they love me. Never the less I sent Terry a note on the Daytona. I'm a glutton for punishment.

KM
I know the feeling about just having to, "stop the bleeding". Long story, but I am into a GT Hawk about X3 what most GTs will ever be worth, and did not need the car in the first place. But am not quite ready to throw in the towel just yet.

63 R2 Hawk
07-01-2013, 11:34 AM
At the risk of being called the "C" word (CASO), I perform almost all the necessary work on my Studebaker myself. So far, I have been very satisfied with the quality of work done and I know exactly who to blame if the work isn't top notch. I dread the day when I don't have the energy to work on my car any more. Finding honest, capable mechanics who understand these cars and live nearby is getting harder all the time.

Roscomacaw
07-01-2013, 01:25 PM
Hell, even keeping a contemporary car running right can be a nightmare if you just park it at the entrance to the "service" area. I still do most of my own work - even on our rice burners. Not necessarily CASO - just wanting to know it's done the way I'd like!

StudeRich
07-01-2013, 03:13 PM
Kelly; it is a little hard for me to understand the talk directed at your friend. There seems to be no other mention of this Daytona anywhere, mentioned only at the end?

Also, are YOU saying that you still own these 2 cool Champs one with a neat twin stick Overdrive Mod? :!:

55s
07-01-2013, 05:51 PM
I have a similar story.

20 years ago, I took my car to the local gas station for a SAFETY TEST because one of the mechanics was familiar with Studebakers. I had door panel clips on order, (panels already made and in the trunk), all interior handles off, new transmission cover and master cylinder covers on order and some gaskets to install.

I got a call from the mechanic saying that it had passed, except one front brake shoe needed to be replaced and it would cost about $50 - $100 for everything. A day later, I took a new set of shoes to the mechanic, then left on a short family vacation. Little did I know, the mechanic also went on holiday, leaving a note for another mechanic.

The other (new) mechanic started doing everything he could think of to the car - he started attaching everything with tons of silicone glue and sealing up all "leaks" with silicone. The glue was everywhere - all over the carpet, door panels, every bolt hole screw hole and wiring hole, with door handles attached with incorrect screws. It was a disaster. I was presented with a $700 bill for the work. I was furious at first, but stayed level-headed while I tried to find out what had happened. Then I found out. The new mechanic was completely written word illiterate. Although he could speak English, he did not understand any of the notes left for him.

My heart went out to him immediately. Relunctantly, I paid most of the money and made a pact with myself that I would always follow car work and money and never go on vacation while work was being done. I cleaned up the silicone mess - it took over two days. Never again!

kelmbaker
07-09-2013, 12:19 AM
StudeRich. I re-read my post. It doesn't make a lot of sense. I apologize for my poor grammar. Yes I have both Champs. And I have found a local who is a member of the local Stude chapter, and on occasion takes in work to pay for his car addiction. I went over to his place and viewed an example of his work. Absolutely beautiful, a true craftsman. So there are places to take your car. And it turns out my MGB mechanic is doing good work. I stopped by and put eyes on what he was doing. He just isn't thrilled with customers. I can understand that, I have my anti-social streak too. That makes me feel better. We (the new mechanic and I) are most likely going to take the two Champs and make one truck. That means I'll have to decide what to keep, such as 5 sp/OD vs the 3 sp/OD transmission. Yes the Rambler Twin Stick is neat. I am still looking for a no fin Hawk coupe, or a GT Hawk. One that can easily be restored. The Champ truck for everyday driving, a GT when the wife wants to come along, and the MGB in tribute to a good friend. Thanks for listening to my rant. When it comes to my addiction to Studebakers no one else would remotely understand.

kelmbaker
07-09-2013, 12:24 AM
The '63 Daytona is still available (1K), and he has a '63 R-1 Cruiser that needs everything. He doesn't want to shoot that car in the head, but no one wants it. He has the engine (completely rebuilt), but it doesn't come with the car unless someone had to have the car and threw big money for the engine. The car itself is 1K. Write me at my home e-mail if anyone is interested. kelmbaker at msn dot com Both cars are Arizona cars.

studebakerjoe
07-09-2013, 06:05 PM
Too bad you weren't in nys my husband could've helped you. He has a stellar reputation of being an honest tech, he's an honest man and people around this area bring their classics to him. Most people who bring their cars in to get done want no one but him.

SScopelli
07-09-2013, 06:24 PM
The '63 Daytona is still available (1K), and he has a '63 R-1 Cruiser that needs everything. He doesn't want to shoot that car in the head, but no one wants it. He has the engine (completely rebuilt), but it doesn't come with the car unless someone had to have the car and threw big money for the engine. The car itself is 1K. Write me at my home e-mail if anyone is interested. kelmbaker at msn dot com Both cars are Arizona cars.

Here is the craigslist link to the cars..
http://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/3902652467.html