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  • Engine: Bad oil filter mounting

    My 1956 Sky Hawk w/289 has a threaded stud which will not accept a new filter. Suggestions, please?
    peter lee

  • #2
    As 56 had the canister type filters it appears you might have a later engine or modified filter on the car. If the spin on filter is on the bottom then you can replace the aluminum assembly that holds the filter. This assembly bolts to the block. If your filter is a spin on on top of the engine then you can also replace the part the filter screws onto. A picture of where your filter mounts might be helpful to help determine which filter, if either, you have. You could also have an aftermarket spin on filter on the car. Both of the original Stude filter mounts are readily available.
    Milt

    1947 Champion (owned since 1967)
    1961 Hawk 4-speed
    1967 Avanti
    1961 Lark 2 door
    1988 Avanti Convertible

    Member of SDC since 1973

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    • #3
      Peter: Is the oil filter on top of the engine or underneath it?

      If it is on top and is a spin-on type, it takes a Fram PB-50 or equivalent. If it is a spin-on unit under the car, it takes a Fram PH-25 or equivalent (or the longer PH11, if you can find one).

      PB-50 and PH-25 are not interchangable.

      In either case, if it does have a spin-on filter, it is not the original engine...or someone adapted a later, upper, spin-on filter to your car's original engine. BP
      Last edited by BobPalma; 04-15-2013, 02:22 PM.
      We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

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      • #4
        If your engine has a spin on type filter up on top, then is should take a Fram (or Luber-finer) PB50 oil filter.
        That takes a 5/8"-18 thread per inch filter)

        If you are trying to put on a PH24 (Luber-finer) or a PH25 Fram... That filter is for the later 'full flow' engine and takes a 13/16"-16 thread per inch filter.

        Something to check out first....


        Originally posted by plee4139 View Post
        My 1956 Sky Hawk w/289 has a threaded stud which will not accept a new filter. Suggestions, please?
        HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

        Jeff


        Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



        Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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        • #5
          Boy, Jeff; I sure wish AC and Fram had agreed on what a #24-suffix and what a #25-suffix filter would fit, eh?

          Constantly confusing. BP
          We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

          G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
            Peter: Is the oil filter on top of the engine or underneath it?

            If it is on top and is a spin-on type, it takes a Fram PB-50 or equivalent. If it is a spin-on unit under the car, it takes a Fram PH-25 or equivalent (or the longer PH10, if you can find one).

            PB-50 and PH-25 are not interchangable.

            In either case, if it does have a spin-on filter, it is not the original engine...or someone adapted a later, upper, spin-on filter to your car's original engine. BP
            Actually Bob it's a Fram PH11 for the FULL sized (Real) Oil Filter, but I prefer the NAPA GOLD (WIX) 1049 full sized 1 Qt. Oil Filter for full flow Engines.

            That way, you don't have to worry about no PH nothings!
            StudeRich
            Second Generation Stude Driver,
            Proud '54 Starliner Owner
            SDC Member Since 1967

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            • #7
              Yessir... Two different companies.. Two different times... Now three different companies, two of them combined..
              And the numbers don't have a logical meaning, anyways.
              (Multiply your confusion by 6900 SKU's)

              Originally posted by BobPalma View Post
              Boy, Jeff; I sure wish AC and Fram had agreed on what a #24-suffix and what a #25-suffix filter would fit, eh?

              Constantly confusing. BP
              HTIH (Hope The Info Helps)

              Jeff


              Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain



              Note: SDC# 070190 (and earlier...)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by StudeRich View Post
                Actually Bob it's a Fram PH11 for the FULL sized (Real) Oil Filter, but I prefer the NAPA GOLD (WIX) 1049 full sized 1 Qt. Oil Filter for full flow Engines.

                That way, you don't have to worry about no PH nothings!
                Right, Rich; thanks for the correction. Big fingers! . BP

                We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.

                G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.

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                • #9
                  The early spin-on filter base (part #1544217) was all aluminum and the threads were known to strip. This is probably what's wrong with yours. That filter base was replaced with part #1551374 which has a steel stud insert.
                  Restorations by Skip Towne

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                  • #10
                    Oil filter

                    Actually, my mechanic found another filter (Hastings) which will fit.




                    1544217) was all aluminum and the threads were known to strip. This is probably what's wrong with yours. That filter base was replaced with part #1551374 which has a steel stud insert.[/QUOTE]
                    peter lee

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                    • #11
                      So inquiring minds want to know, does that mean he just never had the Correct Fram PB50 or it's alternate Brand of Element and finally found the Correct Element or did he replace the whole Filter Base with a aftermarket replacement from Hastings?
                      StudeRich
                      Second Generation Stude Driver,
                      Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                      SDC Member Since 1967

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