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candbstudebakers
04-06-2013, 11:35 PM
Last Aug. one of our good chapter members while on his way to my shop to help my grandson work on his Datson 240Z he never made it to the shop as he was involved in a head on collision in is 240 by all rights he should have been killed but was not , as of today he is still recovering and trying to get his life back together and walking is still a problem, My grandson and I went to his place last Wed. and took him out for a few hours and talked Studebaker's. after taking him home I snapped a couple of pictures of his broken Z, his Studebaker is a very nice 53 Commander coupe with 3 speed and overdrive and he figures because it is a 3 speed he will never drive it again so he might be in the market for something with an auto. but in no real hurry, I told him if and when it comes to that we will come up with something would like and could enjoy, he has always been one to drive his 53 to any and all events that he would attend, his name is Bill Avery and here is a picture or two of the Z.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/SAM_0152_zpsb870d748.jpg

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/SAM_0153-1_zps8791be37.jpg

Chris_Dresbach
04-06-2013, 11:55 PM
Hope he gets back in good health soon.

junior
04-07-2013, 09:25 AM
wow, he really is lucky to be alive...that Z really took a hard whack. Have a real soft spot for z-cars, had to sell my 72 to make room for my Stude in the garage. Best wishes to Mr. Avery for a full recovery. Junior.

sweetolbob
04-07-2013, 09:35 AM
Last Aug. one of our good chapter members while on his way to my shop to help my grandson work on his Datson 240Z he never made it to the shop as he was involved in a head on collision in is 240 by all rights he should have been killed but was not , as of today he is still recovering and trying to get his life back together and walking is still a problem, My grandson and I went to his place last Wed. and took him out for a few hours and talked Studebaker's. after taking him home I snapped a couple of pictures of his broken Z, his Studebaker is a very nice 53 Commander coupe with 3 speed and overdrive and he figures because it is a 3 speed he will never drive it again so he might be in the market for something with an auto. but in no real hurry, I told him if and when it comes to that we will come up with something would like and could enjoy, he has always been one to drive his 53 to any and all events that he would attend, his name is Bill Avery and here is a picture or two of the Z.


You always feel for someone that goes through anything like this. I certainly hope he fully recovers and can enjoy his vehicle again.

If he loves the car, how about a few club members getting together and just putting an automatic in his favorite vehicle. Much easier than going the other way.

Bob

hausdok
04-07-2013, 12:39 PM
Ouch!

That photo is eerily familiar, except mine was a Karmann Ghia. I think I know exactly what Mr. Avery is going through. 1971 - Dozed off, hit an International Loadstar 1600 head-on. Broke my left femur in two places fractured some vertebra. They had to cut me out. Very long convelescence.

I agree. If he's really attached to the car, why not swap out the transmission, column and pedals? Finding a transmission won't be that hard and finding a parts doner for the rest shouldn't be that hard either.

Sending as much positive energy Bob's way as I can.

Don Jeffers
04-07-2013, 12:49 PM
If he's really attached to the car, why not swap out the transmission, column and pedals? Finding a transmission won't be that hard and finding a parts doner for the rest shouldn't be that hard either.


No need to swap out the pedals! The 53 automatic just uses a wide pedal pad that bolts to both the clutch and brake pedal arms.

hausdok
04-07-2013, 01:10 PM
No need to swap out the pedals! The 53 automatic just uses a wide pedal pad that bolts to both the clutch and brake pedal arms.Oh, didn't know that. Back in the day when I worked for dealerships they'd occasionally buy fleets of rental cars to fill up inventory on the used car lot. Then they'd sell a car off the lot where the buyer liked the car but not the fact that it didn't have power brakes or an auto (or a standard) and we'd have to swap out the brake booster and pedal or column and transmission and pedals from standard to auto and vice versa. Instead of ordering the parts and waiting for them to come in, they'd have us swap everything out of an identical car off the lot. It was a royal pain in the keester but I didn't get paid for my opinion; I just did whatever service order I was handed.

A transmission swap still seems like it would be the way to go.

Pat Dilling
04-07-2013, 04:28 PM
Glad that he is recovering even if it is slow. I agree with the others, that 53 sounds like a great candidate for automatic w/OD conversion. Best wishes for his continuing improvement.

jlmccuan
04-07-2013, 04:59 PM
Long term recoveries to accidents are no fun. There is generally lots of support early on, but then people naturally get back to their lives. Glad to see you're helping out in the later stages as the victim tries to restart "normal" life and activities. It will be appreciated, I'm sure.

Corvanti
04-07-2013, 05:16 PM
prayers and positive thoughts to Mr. Avery!!! recovery is a long, slow process. BTDT. substitute the "Z" car for a 250 Yamaha Enduro vs. an old lady in a '66 Cadillac pulling out from a side street without looking (in 1970)...

the trans swap sounds like an excellent idea!!!:!:

57pack
04-07-2013, 05:49 PM
Yes, Best wishes and a speedy recovery!
Yes, converting to a automatic is the best way to go, plus a power brake upgrade would make driving easier.

57 Thunderbolt
04-11-2013, 06:01 PM
Bob and Clayton: A little bit of Studebaker makes the medicine go down. Thanks for visiting with me last Wednesday.

Bill A

nibbs53
04-11-2013, 06:25 PM
Hi Bill glad you are feeling better. Usually out and about with Bob. Missed the trip this time will make it next time will bring Allanah. Here is a picture of her and Pinky at the Christmas party.http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv280/hisnibbs/BlueBeltTest043.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/hisnibbs/media/BlueBeltTest043.jpg.html)Patrick

57 Thunderbolt
04-11-2013, 06:27 PM
A little bit of Studebaker makes the medicine go down. Thanks for the visit last Wednesday Bob and Clayton. And thanks to all the Studebaker Forum guests who expressed concern and encouragement for my recovery. "Mr. Green" my 53 Commander Coupe and I are looking forward returning to the road.

Bill A

GThawkwind
04-11-2013, 08:34 PM
Bob and Clayton: A little bit of Studebaker makes the medicine go down. Thanks for visiting with me last Wednesday.

Bill A
I'm sorry about your Z car, and far more sorry about the damage the accident caused to you, your lucky to have left that lttle car with your life, although I'm sure the last thing you feel like right now is lucky. I hope you recover well and will be up and cruising again soon. Good luck. P.S. You should post up here every now and then, it's a fun site if you stude guy, or even just a car guy.

candbstudebakers
04-11-2013, 08:49 PM
See Bill you can teach an old dog new tricks, now when you learn to post pictures you will unstoppable.

GThawkwind
04-11-2013, 10:41 PM
Hey Bob, completely un-important but when you said " while on his way to my shop to help my grandson work on his Datson 240z" did you mean the the Z in question or your grandsons. Pretty much irelivent but does that mean your grandsoon has a Z too? Or did I just misunderstand.

candbstudebakers
04-11-2013, 11:35 PM
Yes he has a 240 and also a 62 ford pick up with a 302 in it along with all his other Studebakers.

GThawkwind
04-12-2013, 01:25 AM
Yes he has a 240 and also a 62 ford pick up with a 302 in it along with all his other Studebakers.
Lucky bastard, does he drive it daily?

candbstudebakers
04-12-2013, 09:39 AM
More than he should as he is still with his learners permit, but a very good driver has already driven my 08 dodge mega cab hemi powered truck with the trailer and Avanti from the bay area to Sacramento with no problems, and will get his share of driving on the way to SB.

GThawkwind
04-12-2013, 01:36 PM
So are you responseable for him having all these sweet cars then?

brian6373
04-13-2013, 12:33 AM
Good luck with your recovery. I know how you feel. We had our Cruiser taken out in a head on last Aug. Girlfriend had two broken vert. Mostley she has recovered, but not all there yet.

Brian

57 Thunderbolt
04-13-2013, 01:33 PM
Thanks for your encouragement. I like the 53 Sunroof prototype.:)

57 Thunderbolt
04-13-2013, 01:39 PM
Sorry to hear about your accident. Last August is when I was hit head on. My mending is slow and almost inmeasurable for me, hope your Girlfriend is making steady progress. Thanks for your thoughts.


Bill

57 Thunderbolt
04-13-2013, 01:51 PM
To a person, those who have looked at my "wacked" Z say how did you live through that? I am thankful to still be on the planet... every day my recovery is both a challenge and a blessing.

Thanks for your thoughts Junior

Bill

57 Thunderbolt
04-13-2013, 02:37 PM
Hey Cat Herder, Third Class: Thanks for your positive thoughts. They are very much appreciated. Back in 1971 you picked one of my favorite designs (Karmann Ghia) to get smushed in. Speaking of eery similarites: my accident was a head-on collision, two lane state highway, blind curve, a two car length warning, caused by the other party who fell asleep coming home from grave yard shift work. Glad we are both here to talk about transmissions and swapping out parts on my 53 Commander Coupe. To close the erry side of things, I also enjoy discontinued/orphan cars, like Nash Healy, Hudson, Kaiser.

Bill Avery, aka "57 Thunderbolt"
Boulder Creek, CA
avery_w@comcast.net

57 Thunderbolt
04-13-2013, 02:43 PM
Hello Don, Appreciate the technical point regarding the conversion to wide pedal pad.

Bill

57 Thunderbolt
04-13-2013, 02:51 PM
Info for GTHawkwind: I am the guy who owns the Orange Crushed Z...Bob's Grandson has a 240Z. I was going to Bob's shop that day...


Bill

57 Thunderbolt
04-13-2013, 02:55 PM
Hello Pat

Thanks for your kind support. Am I understanding that a 53 automatic transmission has a "OD conversion"?

Bill

57 Thunderbolt
04-13-2013, 03:00 PM
Interesting concept, Bob

Thanks for your support.

Bill

avery_w@comcast.net

57 Thunderbolt
04-13-2013, 03:13 PM
Hi Bob,

Thanks for the encouragement, The Studebaker Forum is fun and informative....I will be taking the photo posting process later.

Bill

Don Jeffers
04-14-2013, 06:14 AM
If doing the swap to automatic transmission, I would think a late model Chevy OverDrive automatic using an adapter plate would be a great improvement at both ends of the operating speed range.

Almost all of the Stude automatics are, for all practical purposes, a 2 speed since they start in second gear with a lot of torque converter slip. Although first gear starts can be made manually, I don't find it a pleasant way to drive the cars.

Stude automatic cars usually rev a bit high at Interstate speeds, so an OD automatic would be a very useful upgrade at the upper speed range as well.

I have not personally made the swap to Chevy OD automatic transmission, but there are several on the Forum that have and can offer advice. I've seen the adapter plates advertised in Turning Wheels.

My '53-'54 swap experience has been from Stude automatic to Stude 3 speed Overdrive.