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52-fan
03-26-2013, 01:57 PM
It's no secret that I have a soft spot for 52 Studebakers after owning one for 40 years and I would like to have a Commander. This car on eBay looks like a solid example of a Commander Starliner. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1952-Studebaker-Commander-Starliner-Hardtop-/271178568821?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f23809475 I know all the down side, shipping, rare parts, lots of chroming, etc, but it doesn't keep me from wanting it. Somebody talk me down!

StudeDave57
03-26-2013, 02:06 PM
As well as I know The Bell's collection- this is one I don't recall ever seeing!!!

Give James some time. I'm sure he'll be along to comment soon.

2R5
03-26-2013, 02:43 PM
I like 52s as well , I've owned 2 in the past and wish I still had one.My personal opinion is , if you want one buy the best you can find for the money you have to put into one.

52-fan
03-26-2013, 03:04 PM
I hear you. Even if I could afford it, I would hate to get a nice restored car. I would modify one much like Jim Turner's 52 convertible with a 289 and such. Stock appearing, but not stock.

DieselJim
03-26-2013, 03:07 PM
I have a soft spot for 52's also. A Commander 4 door was my first car in '59.

ST2DE5
03-26-2013, 03:21 PM
Howard.... Go get it. You can use my trailer.

ddub
03-26-2013, 03:42 PM
Anyone wanting to build one of these unique cars this looks like a great place to start.

57pack
03-26-2013, 03:46 PM
Buy It! Save a Studebaker today!

52-fan
03-26-2013, 04:04 PM
Howard.... Go get it. You can use my trailer.

Hmmm....First I have to scrape up the money to buy the car, then how many gallons of fuel? Time off from work...No Colorado Springs if I do....Been wanting to see Washington again......Got to sell the Scout....I've got some of the NOS 52 parts already...
You guys are not helping. You're supposed to coax the jumper off the ledge.

41 Frank
03-26-2013, 04:16 PM
I knew it would happen sooner or later Howard, I should have never let you sit in mine in Branson!


Hmmm....First I have to scrape up the money to buy the car, then how many gallons of fuel? Time off from work...No Colorado Springs if I do....Been wanting to see Washington again......Got to sell the Scout....I've got some of the NOS 52 parts already...
You guys are not helping. You're supposed to coax the jumper off the ledge.

52-fan
03-26-2013, 04:26 PM
I knew it would happen sooner or later Howard, I should have never let you sit in mine in Branson!

I already had the sickness, you just made the fever worse. I'm trying to tell myself I would be better off with a coupe. Tighter, no torque boxes, less trim, but it's a hard sell.
BTW Anyone else notice that the car in question only has front fender trim on the left fender?

41 Frank
03-26-2013, 04:32 PM
There is a 52 Hardtop sitting here in Bellevue, Ne. for sale Howard. Motivated seller, I have talked about on the Forum. It is a Champion but needs lots of work and has torque box issues. Claims engine has been rebuilt, nice interior,new brakes. All trim, including bumpers, has been painted over. Was asking $3500.00.

52-fan
03-26-2013, 04:35 PM
Champion with bad torque boxes. Closer....but worth the difference? Have you posted pictures before?

41 Frank
03-26-2013, 04:47 PM
No I haven't posted pics Howard. And I am not currently close to my stuff, as I am still in AZ. We will go home when it stops snowing!If it was me I would look for a better one, I told the guy he was too high for what he had. His reply was that he had too much money invested in it and could not take less. If you like I can see if I still have his info at the house when I get back. Have to make sure he still has it too in case you decide you want it later.



Champion with bad torque boxes. Closer....but worth the difference? Have you posted pictures before?

55s
03-26-2013, 05:19 PM
If you guys are really serious about wanting and buying a 52 HT, I have a two tone green Commander, a two tone blue Champion, and an NOS 52 grille. (although the chrome on both cars is good.)

52-fan
03-26-2013, 06:01 PM
You guys are killing me. If the right car comes along I'm all for it, but I can't afford a perfect car and I don't need a car requiring a huge amount of work to get running. The pretty stuff can come a little at a time.
I hope that makes sense.

thunderations
03-26-2013, 06:30 PM
Make the deal. Have a member transport it from Oregon to Colorado for the International, and pick it up there. I should have been a marriage counselor............

StudeDave57
03-26-2013, 06:57 PM
With all the hipe over this car I wonder how things would'a went down had
I posted about the one I saw during a SoCal CraigsList search just last week!!!
I already looked- the ad expired... :ohmy:




Make the deal. Have a member transport it from Oregon to Colorado for the International, and pick it up there.
I should have been a marriage counselor............

If you mean the eBay car- it is in Washington- about 15 miles from the Canadian border.




StudeDave '57 :cool:

aenthal
03-26-2013, 07:21 PM
Talk you out of getting a 1952 Studebaker? Why would I want to do that?
I was a 1954 baby (whose parents drove me home from the hospital after I was born in their 1952 Commander) who accidentally found a 1952 Land Cruiser as an adult. It just followed me home like a lost puppy.
That's 2 1952 Studebakers for me, and no other years of them.
Parts are easy to find for it. Other than the toothy grille, there really isn't all that much chrome on them.
As a child I saw lots of bullet noses on the road, but rarely saw another 1952. That made them special.
True, the 1950-51's are the iconic image of post war car boom Studebaker. And the 1953's are the next generation of then-futuristic styling with their loger, lower, and leaner lines.
Which is all the more reason to save another 1952.
Try and talk anyone out of it? No way.

52-fan
03-26-2013, 08:21 PM
I love the 52 Studes, I am just not sure that this is the car or the time to buy. It is one of the most solid looking unfinished 52 hardtops that I have seen in a while.
Regarding the amount of chrome, other than the grille there's not too much more than on most models. The hardtop is an exception. The pot metal trim around the belt line is extensive and expensive to refurbish. Just ask michidan.

snowy_buffalo
03-26-2013, 08:30 PM
Howard,
There's a '52 Hardtop Champion in the Tulsa Craigslist for $2500 and a '52 Hardtop Commander in the Tucson Craigslist for $2500. Both much closer to home than the Washington one. Are we teasing you enough yet??? Just go buy one of them.

ST2DE5
03-26-2013, 09:03 PM
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/3641577055.html

52-fan
03-26-2013, 10:06 PM
I saw the ad for the Tulsa one. Another Champion. I'm not knocking Champions, but I would like to try a Commander next time. I'll look at Tucson. You guys are pouring gasoline on the fire.

dean pearson
03-26-2013, 10:13 PM
No talking you down from me. I have one the exact same original color. Mine (when I got it) was better in some ways and not in others but I paid considerably more for it.
I think this car is a good deal if you like the body style.
Like I do!

Dean.

Lou Van Anne
03-26-2013, 10:20 PM
What would you trade me for mine?...I'm getting a little bored. (31,000 miles, rust free California car)

52-fan
03-27-2013, 08:18 AM
Unfortunately, not much to trade. I have a 1980 Scout II with a 392 IHC engine that I need to sell, and a 30+ thousand mile 1947 M series pickup that I foolishly disassembled in 1975. Neither would go far in trade for a car like yours. Pictures?

Michidan
03-27-2013, 08:22 AM
Hmmm....First I have to scrape up the money to buy the car, then how many gallons of fuel? Time off from work...No Colorado Springs if I do....Been wanting to see Washington again......Got to sell the Scout....I've got some of the NOS 52 parts already...
You guys are not helping. You're supposed to coax the jumper off the ledge.

Like anyone here was going to talk you out of it! Hey the best you could hope for here was the sound advice to buy the best one you can afford. The ebay car looks pretty good and you should talk to the seller. I also noticed the missing front fender trim, but maui blue fenders were not that rare, one must be a replacement. 5 days left on the auction, plenty of time to check out some of the other very intruigng options popping up on this thread!

You don't want no ole starlight coupe.
It's funny, I had to sell my own beloved 78 Scout to finish my Studebaker. I miss it, but not putting gas in it.

rodnutrandy
03-27-2013, 08:30 AM
Not a 52 (older) and I believe a 4 dr., but price seems fair, its on Cincinnati craigslist. It has came down and may take less.
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/3683154275.html

52-fan
03-27-2013, 08:47 AM
The Cincinnati car wouldn't do it for me.
BTW Dan, the Starlight coupe does have the advantage of being the lightest.

Michidan
03-27-2013, 09:16 AM
When I was looking for a 52 in 1997 I had a couple leads on starlights. One in Utah was very tempting. But IMHO the best proprtioned stalights are the 47-49 Commanders. A bit longer front - Very pretty cars.
With a 52, what's a couple pounds for the style and pizazz of a flashy Studebaker hardtop? :)

In all seriousness on the pot metal though. It's easy to say those things can wait, as they can. But not many folks can justify droping 3 or 4 grand on trim pieces. Not today, and not 5 years from now either. That day does not come. If you hadn't set me up with a good deal on grill parts I'd still have a horrendous one. Pick a good car to start with, and know that the trim is good enough for you, or plan on painting it down the road.

Bellingham Studenut
03-27-2013, 10:27 PM
As well as I know The Bell's collection- this is one I don't recall ever seeing!!!

Give James some time. I'm sure he'll be along to comment soon.

Dave, it has been stored in our other building for the last 5 years, so you probably haven't seen it.
It's a nice solid car to restore.
It has already met the reserve by someone on the east coast, so it will be sold to highest bidder.

James

52-fan
03-28-2013, 09:13 AM
Well after checking my resources, I have decided not to jump in on this one. This is one of the nicest looking prospects I have seen in a long time, but not today. When it comes to Studebakers I could drive any of them, but this particular model is my favorite. I hope it gets the attention it deserves.

Lou Van Anne
03-28-2013, 08:19 PM
Unfortunately, not much to trade. I have a 1980 Scout II with a 392 IHC engine that I need to sell, and a 30+ thousand mile 1947 M series pickup that I foolishly disassembled in 1975. Neither would go far in trade for a car like yours. Pictures?
Pictures? If only I were smart enough to figure out how to post...

dean pearson
03-28-2013, 10:49 PM
Buy Lou's car and send me the NOS beltline trim you've been holding back on!!!!
Call it a Win Win Win!

Dean.

52-fan
04-15-2013, 10:01 AM
I usually don't dredge up old posts, but in this case it seemed to fit. I have been in contact with an older SDC member who does not visit the forum and has a 52 Commander Starliner for sale. He stalled out on getting the car repainted and back on the road because of health issues. Chrome redone, 3,000 miles on engine, lots of new and refurbished parts. The price is within my range and he is only about a days drive from here. I am planning a trip to see him before long. This may be the one. Time will tell.

Pat Dilling
04-15-2013, 10:51 AM
Cool, hope you get it!

candbstudebakers
04-15-2013, 10:54 AM
I just found out 2 weeks ago that the Bell's 52 commander is coming south near me, one of our club members bought it but sadly to say he will never get it on the road and running as he buys things before even thinking what he is doing, so some day I might just end up with it he has a number of older ones he now want to sell that he bought just that way, here are a couple of pictures I took of the ones he wants to sell and at a good price also.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/SAM_0113_zps5da79513.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/canbstudebakers/media/SAM_0113_zps5da79513.jpg.html)

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/SAM_0119_zps345ba290.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/canbstudebakers/media/SAM_0119_zps345ba290.jpg.html)

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/SAM_0129_zps27a07921.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/canbstudebakers/media/SAM_0129_zps27a07921.jpg.html)

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/SAM_0134_zpse40cbeb0.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/canbstudebakers/media/SAM_0134_zpse40cbeb0.jpg.html)

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/SAM_0135_zpsb44bf722.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/canbstudebakers/media/SAM_0135_zpsb44bf722.jpg.html)

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/SAM_0136_zps41669498.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/canbstudebakers/media/SAM_0136_zps41669498.jpg.html)

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv271/canbstudebakers/SAM_0138_zpsab086644.jpg (http://s691.photobucket.com/user/canbstudebakers/media/SAM_0138_zpsab086644.jpg.html)

He says all run and are drivable and under $7000.00 each anyone interested ????

41 Frank
04-15-2013, 11:28 AM
Howard, this may be the one for you. I plan to bring our '52 Hardtop to Tulsa next week. If you are planning to attend I'll help push you over the edge to buy. <G>

I usually don't dredge up old posts, but in this case it seemed to fit. I have been in contact with an older SDC member who does not visit the forum and has a 52 Commander Starliner for sale. He stalled out on getting the car repainted and back on the road because of health issues. Chrome redone, 3,000 miles on engine, lots of new and refurbished parts. The price is within my range and he is only about a days drive from here. I am planning a trip to see him before long. This may be the one. Time will tell.

GEEMAC
04-15-2013, 11:43 AM
Hey Howard, If you are a little short of that green stuff i,m sure old Joe would reach drown deep in his pocket and give you a big hand full!By the way how are you guys doing, haven,t heard from you lately. Mac

52-fan
04-15-2013, 12:09 PM
Gerald, Joe may well have to be in this one. The seller has a collection of other Studebaker parts he wants to sell with the car.
Frank, I doubt I will make it to Tulsa. Not enough days off from work for everything and I have to save the money for the car. I am trying to allow for the SDC international meet the this summer. We'll see if it all comes together.

snowy_buffalo
04-15-2013, 03:02 PM
I usually don't dredge up old posts, but in this case it seemed to fit. I have been in contact with an older SDC member who does not visit the forum and has a 52 Commander Starliner for sale. He stalled out on getting the car repainted and back on the road because of health issues. Chrome redone, 3,000 miles on engine, lots of new and refurbished parts. The price is within my range and he is only about a days drive from here. I am planning a trip to see him before long. This may be the one. Time will tell.

Howard, Must not be this one on Southern Ill Craigslist then if you say it's a Commander. The craigslist one would be about a day from you also but it's a Champion with the 170 engine. http://carbondale.craigslist.org/cto/3715597460.html

Hope you find a decent one to acquire.

52-fan
04-15-2013, 03:12 PM
This one's southeast of me. It is blue and hasn't been on Craigslist. The one in your link looks like a good one for someone.