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luma
03-18-2013, 08:42 PM
I saw a great video of the original R5 Avanti racing at Bonneville in 1963 posted on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAYrKW1vxjc

1st car shown is the gold #9 Avanti. Please note the plumbing in the back window area.

Watch for the red Avanti!

My question does any one out there have any other footage of the 1963 Bonneville Record Runs?
It looks like maybe Ashland or Valveoline was doing some filming.
I remember back in the late 60's films were offered to Club members for meetings. I saw the 62 Avanti at Bonneville then.
I was told if you see numbers on the Avantis, you are watching the 63 footage. Anyone have the original videos?

If the link above above does not work type in " 1963 Studebaker Bonneville " in the You Tube search.

Sorry to say there is no sound but its still a great clip and has great resolution! Enjoy, Luma

DEEPNHOCK
03-18-2013, 10:56 PM
Couple of things caught my eye in that video.
I have no clue, or expertise, but.....

It looks like they have the backup light lenses removed from the trunk lid.
Also saw that the package tray door looks like it was removed, too.

Maybe trying to draw a vaccum to keep the back window in?

Inquiring minds....

And who was that little kid at the end of the movie?
Where is he today?
Just curious.....
Jeffhttp://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/images/icons/icon6.png

Green53
03-19-2013, 12:10 AM
I have one that I think is called "Chasing the wind". It has the Stude runs plus other runs

Denny L

Warren Webb
03-19-2013, 12:41 AM
I also noticed the upper windshield moulding missing on the red Avanti and also it had extra braces to retain the back glass.

8E45E
03-19-2013, 08:27 AM
Couple of things caught my eye in that video.
I have no clue, or expertise, but.....

It looks like they have the backup light lenses removed from the trunk lid.
Also saw that the package tray door looks like it was removed, too.

Maybe trying to draw a vaccum to keep the back window in?

Inquiring minds....

And who was that little kid at the end of the movie?
Where is he today?
Just curious.....

Same video here:http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?69105-Studebaker-Bonneville-Video&highlight=valvoline

More on the R5 here:http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?9715-R5-Avanti&highlight=bennett, here: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?48772-Shades-of-Bonneville&highlight=cone

and here: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?30920-From-the-Archives-24-(Avanti-Bonneville)&highlight=bennett

Threads in those posts explain the 'missing' backup lights, fake glovebox door, etc.

Craig

Gunslinger
03-19-2013, 08:44 AM
We know the Avantis that ran at Bonneville still exist and where they're located...but what about the Hawk and Larks? Even the 6-cylinder Lark that ran at Bonneville...and even the support vehicles...at least one Studebaker truck is visible in the video. Does any documentation identifying the serial numbers of those vehicles exist? If so, does anyone know their whereabouts?

I think it's possible that if they exist, the current owners may not know their history.

stude dude
03-19-2013, 08:56 AM
We know the Avantis that ran at Bonneville still exist and where they're located...but what about the Hawk and Larks? Even the 6-cylinder Lark that ran at Bonneville...and even the support vehicles...at least one Studebaker truck is visible in the video. Does any documentation identifying the serial numbers of those vehicles exist? If so, does anyone know their whereabouts?

I think it's possible that if they exist, the current owners may not know their history.

Lionel Stone used to own the truck and trailer that was used to transport the cars out to the salt. So we know that at least that one is still around.

The 6 cylinder Commander was later displayed at the Chicago auto show.

Chris.

DEEPNHOCK
03-19-2013, 08:59 AM
:rolleyes: <lol>... Thanks, Craig....
Amazing to see what we forget...
I went and (happily) re-read both of those older links, and saw where my recent observations were actually older, completely forgotten, observations:o...
Aging is not for the graceful;)...
Good read!
Jeffhttp://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/images/icons/icon6.png



More on that car here:http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?9715-R5-Avanti&highlight=bennett

and here: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?30920-From-the-Archives-24-(Avanti-Bonneville)&highlight=bennett

Threads in those posts explain the 'missing' backup lights, fake glovebox door, etc.

Craig

Avantict
03-20-2013, 03:34 PM
Owner of Due Cento featured speaker at Avanti Bonneville Seminar at SNM May 3rd. See separate post

Deaf Mute
03-20-2013, 05:15 PM
I think the Hawk is in Bell's museum in Bellingham, Washington, isn't it?

63avanti.
03-20-2013, 11:37 PM
I can't answer any of your questions but just wanted to say that is a very cool Clip! watched a few others of his and its very interesting!

dean pearson
03-21-2013, 12:03 AM
Couple of things caught my eye in that video.
I have no clue, or expertise, but.....

It looks like they have the backup light lenses removed from the trunk lid.
Also saw that the package tray door looks like it was removed, too.

Maybe trying to draw a vaccum to keep the back window in?

Inquiring minds....

And who was that little kid at the end of the movie?
Where is he today?
Just curious.....
Jeffhttp://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/images/icons/icon6.png

Couple of things in this video caught my eye too, The girl driver had both of them. No doubt it would be cool to find the youngster being that he could be the lone survivor considering when it was made.
Looks like a once in a lifetime experience for all involved.

Dean.

Deaf Mute
03-21-2013, 11:50 AM
Female driver was probably Paula Murphy. http://www.thehenryford.org/exhibits/racing/wiwc/bios/trailblazers/PaulaMurphy.pdf

64V-K7
03-21-2013, 02:39 PM
Is John Shanahan on this Forum? Looking at the Bonneville film and an old picture I have, was he the one who was fueling the cars from the Valvoline truck?

jlmccuan
03-21-2013, 06:31 PM
John checks in from time to time. I'll ask him about the picture.

PlainBrownR2
03-21-2013, 09:47 PM
Just for giggles, and if you didn't see it, this was the location of the #9 Avanti back at the International Meet last year in South Bend. It was on the first floor of the Studebaker National Museum:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/International%20Studebaker%20Meet%20South%20Bend%202012/P1060248_zps0a81c62a.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/International%20Studebaker%20Meet%20South%20Bend%202012/P1060249_zps417f1f47.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/International%20Studebaker%20Meet%20South%20Bend%202012/P1060251_zpsb8d8ebf6.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/International%20Studebaker%20Meet%20South%20Bend%202012/P1060250_zpsb5936aa3.jpg

As you can tell, it had undergone some cosmetic changes since the movie was filmed. I may be thinking of something else, but whatever plumbing that was behind the backglass was removed, and the advertisements on the side of the car had been removed. I don't have any photos of the back the car, so I can't say whether the backup lamps were removed or not. Since it was also being run at Bonneville, it also had some extra gauges under the console, and a column mounted tach. It also apparently had a much stouter rollcage installed behind the front driver and passenger seats. The vehicle was also, what I presumed to be an extensively reworked R3 with a 4 speed, or so the sign and the decals stated :).

8E45E
03-21-2013, 09:51 PM
I don't have any photos of the back the car, so I can't say whether the backup lamps were removed or not. Since it was also being run at Bonneville, it also had some extra gauges under the console, and a column mounted tach. It also apparently had a much stouter rollcage installed behind the front driver and passenger seats. The vehicle was also, what I presumed to be an extensively reworked R3 with a 4 speed, or so the sign and the decals stated :).

There's a photo of the back of it here: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?31561-Granatelli-takes-3-Avantis-to-Bonneville-(-)&highlight=granatelli

Craig

PlainBrownR2
03-21-2013, 09:58 PM
Aye yep, in those shots the Avanti has backup lamps! Whether they were on the car at Bonneville is another story, but in those pictures they're back there!! :cool:

Stude8
03-22-2013, 01:56 PM
To answer the question in post #14, no I was not present at any of the Granatelli Bonneville runs in 1963.

I did help Ron Hall for several years in putting together his Bonneville record holding Avanti in the 1990's (we both lived in the Western Chicago suburbs then) and went to his Sept 22nd 1993 record setting run (200.426mph) at Wendover, Utah.
John Shanahan

Alan
11-22-2015, 12:11 PM
Funny I didn't see this thread years ago. I have 8 mm home movies of 63 at Bonnie, but I was with Tom Beatty. The only footage I have of the Studes was of Burke changing engines on the car Silver Hawk Dan had for a year or 2. That COE Stone had I built the engine, B112. It is now in the hands of Bob K.

SN-60
11-22-2015, 12:21 PM
Couple of things caught my eye in that video.
I have no clue, or expertise, but.....

It looks like they have the backup light lenses removed from the trunk lid.
Also saw that the package tray door looks like it was removed, too.

Maybe trying to draw a vaccum to keep the back window in?

Inquiring minds....

And who was that little kid at the end of the movie?
Where is he today?
Just curious.....
Jeffhttp://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/images/icons/icon6.png

The car was run without those lamps to alleviate air pressure buildup inside the vehicle.....also, most authentic 'Granatelli Avantis' had extra gauges installed under the dash....The unusual fuel pressure gauge was critical! :ohmy: