I am still looking for a nice solid driving convert. Let me know if you have one or know of one.Tom
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Originally posted by klifton1 View PostTry Ellingson Classic Cars. 763-428 7337 He has a beautiful R1, Automatic.
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Originally posted by Chopper View PostCandbstudebakers
Castro Valley,
California
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I would like to see the vin number to verify it's a real R1. They only made 12 R1 Convertibles, 6 packaged, 6 non-packaged. Denny Lockman has one of the fullpackaged cars, I have the other, the other 4 are unaccounted for. The colour of this car appears to be Golden Sand, they didn't make a R1 Convertible in that colour, only one R2 which I have been trying to find for years. Could only be a R1 engine transplant, if it is the real deal then it's worth evey cent the guy is asking for.
Good luck with your search 9-34.Brian Greenall
Melbourne, OZ
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Hi, Brian: Denny Lockmon sold his red, full-package R1 convertible last year, or possibly early this year. That was the one used in both my and my daughter's wedding.
As for the subject car, I was able to blow up the one photo that includes the driver's door pillar post. The Serial Number is hard to read, but it is clearly a post-January 1, 1964 Hamilton Serial Number and Serial Number plate: Studebaker of Canada, Ltd.
Further, it looks like it has been removed from the car at one time (spot weld areas pulled through), and is currently attached with pop rivets. You may draw you own conclusions about that.
Nobody has seen the engine serial number...or if they have, they haven't reported it.
It could be a real R1 transplant, or a 259 tarted up to look like an R1, for all we know. The current seller is a broker who professes little knowledge of any particulars. BPWe've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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Originally posted by packardHawk58 View PostThanks Bob for verifing that, I didn't know Denny was selling the car, I would have been interested in buying that one. Just it gripes me these guys who advertised cars with certain titles like R1 when they are not.
What happened was that one of his retired "car buddies" out there in the Phoenix area became enamored with Denny's '64 about the time Denny found a street rod he wanted to buy. The guy up and offered Denny a doggone good price for the car, IMHO, and Denny grabbed it. 'Can't say that I blame him.
Then Denny bought "his" street rod.
Agreed on people advertising R-engined cars without disclosing they are clones, and providing the engine's actual serial number so prospective buyers can do their own research and arrive at their own conclusions. In this case, Nelson Bove called the seller and the seller professed ignorance. 'Not a good idea when you are talking to "Nels!"
Again, don't feel bad about Denny's '64 getting away. If anyone would have wanted it, it would have been me, given the history of our two family weddings in it, per the April 2006 Turning Wheels. But even I couldn't have afforded to get in the "auction" considering the opening and final bid. BP
We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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It was a hard decision to let the car go but I had been wanting the 40 President Club sedan since I missed buying it in 1994. When it came available something had to go and the convertible was the one that had to go. I enjoyed it for 31 years. It went to a good home as that person had dibs on it for at least 10 years. If we still lived in Omaha where I still have a large garage and would have still been working it would have stayed. I do miss it but garages are a problem for me here in Arizona.
Denny Lockmon
1964 Avanti
1953 Champion Starliner modified
1940 President Club Sedan street rod
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Thanks guys for enlighting me on the sale of your car Denny, 31 years is a long time to own a car, proves one thing that R cars are the go! I missed out earlier on another one owned by Gary Firce of PA, another genuine R car but needing an extensive restoration.
I have one sitting in my back door here in OZ , original delivered brand new as a CDK, but again it needs everything and the guy is talking stupid prices, we will keep chipping away at it though, he might weaken.
Bob, you can't track down 9077 for me?Brian Greenall
Melbourne, OZ
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I went done to Ellingsons and looked at the convertable. It is nice. Engine number is JTJ320. Vin number is C501773
It was born Bermuda Brown, W/4speed, Engine #VCC419, Disc brakes +. It also has rear sway bar, TT, and Studebaker traction bars. The car looks like a frame off. Basecoat Clear coat. Looks to have placed in Texas, Class 6, 399 points 1998
Klif55 Speedster/Street Machine
63 Avanti R2
64 Convertible R1
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Originally posted by packardHawk58 View PostThe colour of this car appears to be Golden Sand, they didn't make a R1 Convertible in that colour, only one R2 which I have been trying to find for years.
Last edited by mbstude; 10-15-2012, 02:05 PM.
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Originally posted by packardHawk58 View PostThanks guys for enlighting me on the sale of your car Denny, 31 years is a long time to own a car, proves one thing that R cars are the go! I missed out earlier on another one owned by Gary Firce of PA, another genuine R car but needing an extensive restoration.
I have one sitting in my back door here in OZ , original delivered brand new as a CDK, but again it needs everything and the guy is talking stupid prices, we will keep chipping away at it though, he might weaken.
Bob, you can't track down 9077 for me?
I saw it maybe 20 years ago when I was thinking of buying it and you're right, it was only worth "doing" because it was the last factory R-engine convertible...and you still would have been better off rebodying it, as rusty as it was. But at least the OEM R1/4-speed were present and accounted for.
I didn't know I was supposed to be finding 64V9077; the Golden Sand R2 convertible. I'll get right on that 'first thing in the morning... BP
We've got to quit saying, "How stupid can you be?" Too many people are taking it as a challenge.
G. K. Chesterton: This triangle of truisms, of father, mother, and child, cannot be destroyed; it can only destroy those civilizations which disregard it.
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