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  • What color should the grills on 1950 cars be???

    I know they used two type of grills in 1950 cars, one was aluminum finish and the other later style was chromed.

    I am repainting a 60,000 original 50 commander starlight. I do not think it has ever been repainted. The grills in it are chrome but are painted over with the paint coming off in the front. It appears these grills were factory painted as the back of them still has good aqua green paint on them and I would not expect the back to be painted on a repaint. At the national meet this year I was looking at the grills in all the 50's I saw and they appeared to have an aluminum like finish and were not painted body color. Again, I do not think this car has been repainted or wrecked as I see no signs of that and the paint is thin and gone on the top of the fenders.

    I was surprised when I saw these chrome grills were painted. I would have expected them to be left chrome. I compared them to NOS aluminum and chrome ones I have and they are definitely chrome, my eyes are not fooling me this time around.

    Does anyone know what they should be? 1) Painted body color or 2) left aluminum or chrome in finish

    Could it be they left the chrome ones chrome on the front and painted the webbing and back body color????


    Thanks again
    Milt

    1947 Champion (owned since 1967)
    1961 Hawk 4-speed
    1967 Avanti
    1961 Lark 2 door
    1988 Avanti Convertible

    Member of SDC since 1973

  • #2
    I was a teenager when the 50's came out my father worked at the factory and bought a new 50 Champion. IIRC all of the "eggcrate" grilles on 1950 Champions and Commanders were left in the natural finish (not painted or chromed, sort of a gray color not aluminum), all of the sheetmetal was body color. Some folks chromed the trim ring that was around the grille opening but I do not believe the factory did. The 1951 grilles were chrome.
    Last edited by Jackson; 09-22-2012, 07:22 AM.

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    • #3
      Doesn't it depend on the trim level of the car? This is Perry Knopf's car and Perry does EVERYTHING right.

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      • #4
        My 50 Champion grills are body color.

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        • #5
          I've had some 50 Studebakers with original, unadulterated paint jobs back in the day.

          The early 50's had chrome grilles and painted headlight rings. Sometime during the year the company chromed the headlight rings and left the grilles un-chromed. They got more bang for their plating buck that way.

          The early chromed grilles were all chrome, but were painted farther back from the front. Studebaker must have a had a paint mask that covered the leading edges of the grill and about a 1/16" back. That left chrome showing and the rest of it was painted body color.

          When they switched to un-chromed, it seems like they may not have painted the grilles at all, but I am not sure of that.

          It depended on when the car was built, not the level of trim.

          Do not count on what you see at the car shows. Accurately researching a Studebaker seems to be something that very few really want to do.
          Last edited by RadioRoy; 09-22-2012, 09:11 AM.
          RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.


          10G-C1 - 51 Champion starlight coupe
          4H-K5 - 53 Commander starliner hardtop
          5H-D5 - 54 Commander Conestoga wagon

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          • #6
            thanks to everyone that responded
            Milt

            1947 Champion (owned since 1967)
            1961 Hawk 4-speed
            1967 Avanti
            1961 Lark 2 door
            1988 Avanti Convertible

            Member of SDC since 1973

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            • #7
              Serial numbers documenting the change are listed in the parts catalog. For a '50 Commander produced at South Bend the aluminum painted grill began at serial number 4433317. There may have been two reasons for the change. There probably wasn't an efficient method of polishing the inner parts of the grill mesh during the plating process so they just did the front edges and painted the rest. Another factor may have been the Korean War. We generally associate 'Korean Chrome' with the 1951-52 model years, but some concessions were made earlier.
              Over the years many cars have had new or used replacement body parts installed, so there's probably quite a mix out there today.






              edited to include the word 'aluminum'.
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              • #8
                Mine looks to be bare aluminum which I think looks fine. I may try polishing it a bit if I can...
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                Regal Deluxe Trim
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                • #9
                  I thought the grills were made from pot metal (zinc alloy); not aluminum. They are definately pot metal on my 51.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by StudeMann View Post
                    I thought the grills were made from pot metal (zinc alloy); not aluminum. They are definately pot metal on my 51.
                    They ARE pot metal. I think the word aluminum came up in reference to the color of the paint, but am not sure.
                    RadioRoy, specializing in AM/FM conversions with auxiliary inputs for iPod/satellite/CD player. In the old car radio business since 1985.


                    10G-C1 - 51 Champion starlight coupe
                    4H-K5 - 53 Commander starliner hardtop
                    5H-D5 - 54 Commander Conestoga wagon

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                    • #11
                      Whoops, sorry -- I said mine looked to be bare aluminum. I just assumed that's what they were made of. If the experts say they are zinc alloy, that's good enough for me...
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                      Automatic transmission
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                      • #12
                        Just pulled my grilles out to clean thoroughly and ended up repainting them silver/aluminum and coating with clear. They looked good before, but look amazing now. Man, those things were pretty hefty! I just love the quality manufacturers USED to put into their cars.
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                        1950 Commander Starlight Coupe
                        Regal Deluxe Trim
                        Automatic transmission
                        46k original miles, 4th Owner

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by deco_droid View Post
                          Just pulled my grilles out to clean thoroughly and ended up repainting them silver/aluminum and coating with clear. They looked good before, but look amazing now. Man, those things were pretty hefty! I just love the quality manufacturers USED to put into their cars.
                          '50 Studebaker Commander Starlight Coupe.............WHAT A CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                          • #14
                            I'm seeing quite a few of the 1950's champion/commander/starlight cars for sale, and not very expensive compared to their mid 50s countreparts, and I don't know why, maybe they haven't grown on me yet, but the front and rear design just aren't my fancy.
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                            Coral/Beige 1953 Studebaker Commander Starlight.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Spannerbird View Post
                              I'm seeing quite a few of the 1950's champion/commander/starlight cars for sale, and not very expensive compared to their mid 50s countreparts, and I don't know why, maybe they haven't grown on me yet, but the front and rear design just aren't my fancy.
                              Aren't MOST of them in "questionable" condition, meaning very close to junk? So even if you actually WANTED one, not a great investment.
                              StudeRich
                              Second Generation Stude Driver,
                              Proud '54 Starliner Owner
                              SDC Member Since 1967

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