I have resently acquired a 1965 Daytona Wagonaire and in the process of removing the hood,front fenders and grille.I was surprised that during the dissassembly that the wagons have the same cast weights in the front lower panel and the same saddle arrangement to mount the radiator as the 63- 64 Cconvertibles. I realize they have the same frame as the converts but what is the purpose of the weights and saddle for a station wagon that has a complete body?? Anyone know
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The sliding roof wagons had the same counterbalance weights as convertibles due to the lack of a complete roof structure. Wagons without the sliding roof did not have these weights (IIRC).Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
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Originally posted by mrjazzmillcreek View PostI realize they have the same frame as the converts but what is the purpose of the weights and saddle for a station wagon that has a complete body?? Anyone know
Craig
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On the Wagonaires and Ragtops, the "doghouse" "floats" on that one mount under the radiator. Since the X-member really ridgid-ized the center section, this had an effect on the doghouse that wasn't there in the sedans. Having only that one, central mount point, the front fenders tended to oscillate at certain under-way frequencies. The weights were employed to dampen those oscillations.
BTW, the frames are NOT the same between the Wagonaires and Convertibles.No deceptive flags to prove I'm patriotic - no biblical BS to impress - just ME and Studebakers - as it should be.
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Ray , sounds like your not wasting any time with the wagon....going to have to come see it before you have it in pieces! <g>sigpic
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Originally posted by rockne10 View PostNo sliding roof?
StudeRich
Second Generation Stude Driver,
Proud '54 Starliner Owner
SDC Member Since 1967
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Originally posted by StudeRich View PostSince this car is a "Wagonaire" and has the "X" frame, both radiator support to frame Brace AND front panel weights, it is not a "Wagon", so it would have a sliding roof.
Gary L.
Wappinger, NY
SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer
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I had my 1963 Lark Daytona Wagonaire apart years ago and found the weights in the front as you mentioned. I had no idea what they were there for untill now. Thanks for filling a old blank. Thankfully I just put them back when I reassembled the front clip. Wish I still had that wagon!sigpic1957 Packard Clipper Country Sedan
"There's nothing stronger than the heart of a volunteer"
Lt. Col. Jimmy Doolittle
"I have a great memory for forgetting things" Number 1 son, Lee Chan
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Malcolm Berry removed them and put them in the rear quarters of his Wagonaire in the late 60's, in an attempt at better traction on the drag strip.
He's since driven that car (and continues to do so) all over the country, without the weights installed at all.
Seems as though some specific cars need them, and others don't. I've heard the same regarding convertibles.
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I removed the weights on a couple of 6 cylinder wagonaires I owned. I never noticed an oscillation but those weights are right were you dont want them at the very front of the vehicle. You can always put them back on if you notice a problem.StudeRick & Johna
Sacramento CA
1964 GT Hawk, 1963 GT Hawk, 1962 GT Hawk
1957 Silver Hawk
1963 Avanti
1961 Lark Wagon
1963 Lark Daytona
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