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studegary
07-19-2007, 04:10 PM
I have owned more than 50 stock Studebakers and three modified Studebakers. I try to appreciate them all and be tolerant of other's desires in vehicles.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
07-19-2007, 04:10 PM
I have owned more than 50 stock Studebakers and three modified Studebakers. I try to appreciate them all and be tolerant of other's desires in vehicles.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
07-19-2007, 04:12 PM
Here is another good example of how the posting times are in error on this forum. The response that I posted shows as being 49 minutes earlier than the post that I was responding to, yet other posts that I just made have the correct Central Time.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
07-19-2007, 04:12 PM
Here is another good example of how the posting times are in error on this forum. The response that I posted shows as being 49 minutes earlier than the post that I was responding to, yet other posts that I just made have the correct Central Time.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studebakerjeff
07-19-2007, 04:59 PM
I see some people putting Chev engines in Studebaker,or diffrent sub-frame under it and trying to sell them as Studebakers. Instead of putting a Chev engine in,why don't they just buy a Chev with a chev engine. To me it takes alot of effort to restore a Studebaker back the way is was. On e-bay they should have a misc section just for that. Misc parts car.

1950 Champion business coupe

StudeRich
07-19-2007, 05:25 PM
Is West Virginia where Jeff is in a different time zone than you are? I always thought it was the time zones vs the Central time they use, but nothing seems to make any sense when it comes to that posting time and placement on the forum string!


quote:Originally posted by studegary

Here is another good example of how the posting times are in error on this forum. The response that I posted shows as being 49 minutes earlier than the post that I was responding to, yet other posts that I just made have the correct Central Time.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
07-19-2007, 05:25 PM
Is West Virginia where Jeff is in a different time zone than you are? I always thought it was the time zones vs the Central time they use, but nothing seems to make any sense when it comes to that posting time and placement on the forum string!


quote:Originally posted by studegary

Here is another good example of how the posting times are in error on this forum. The response that I posted shows as being 49 minutes earlier than the post that I was responding to, yet other posts that I just made have the correct Central Time.

StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

52hawk
07-19-2007, 05:46 PM
If everybody with a Studebaker insists on having a Studebaker engine,there might not be enough engines to go around.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
07-19-2007, 05:46 PM
If everybody with a Studebaker insists on having a Studebaker engine,there might not be enough engines to go around.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

Dick Steinkamp
07-19-2007, 05:47 PM
Yea...49 minutes wouldn't be a time zone thing. Must be something else.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
07-19-2007, 05:47 PM
Yea...49 minutes wouldn't be a time zone thing. Must be something else.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

DilloCrafter
07-19-2007, 06:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52hawk

If everybody with a Studebaker insists on having a Studebaker engine,there might not be enough engines to go around.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk


...unless, of course everybody with a Studebaker wanted a six-cylinder Studebaker motor. Then, there'd be enough to go around :D

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

DilloCrafter
07-19-2007, 06:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by 52hawk

If everybody with a Studebaker insists on having a Studebaker engine,there might not be enough engines to go around.

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk


...unless, of course everybody with a Studebaker wanted a six-cylinder Studebaker motor. Then, there'd be enough to go around :D

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

Roscomacaw
07-19-2007, 06:31 PM
Take it from someone who's been "shown the light". I've got a horn button that I took from a '57 Silver Hawk. The Hawk was gonna be really expensive to restore as it was pretty rough. So, in a moment of inspriation, I simply drove a running, driving, 42" cut, riding lawn mower up under that horn button - secured the mower's steering wheel to the bottom of the Hawk horn button - and created a HIGHLY modified Studebaker.[:0]:D
It was easier, cheaper and it makes cutting the lawn a bit less odious since I get to drive a Studebaker in the process.;)

Yes, I'm in a "time zone" all my own.:(Deal with it.

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
07-19-2007, 06:31 PM
Take it from someone who's been "shown the light". I've got a horn button that I took from a '57 Silver Hawk. The Hawk was gonna be really expensive to restore as it was pretty rough. So, in a moment of inspriation, I simply drove a running, driving, 42" cut, riding lawn mower up under that horn button - secured the mower's steering wheel to the bottom of the Hawk horn button - and created a HIGHLY modified Studebaker.[:0]:D
It was easier, cheaper and it makes cutting the lawn a bit less odious since I get to drive a Studebaker in the process.;)

Yes, I'm in a "time zone" all my own.:(Deal with it.

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

studebakerjeff
07-19-2007, 06:44 PM
So your driving a Studebaker lawnmower?


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Take it from someone who's been "shown the light". I've got a horn button that I took from a '57 Silver Hawk. The Hawk was gonna be really expensive to restore as it was pretty rough. So, in a moment of inspriation, I simply drove a running, driving, 42" cut, riding lawn mower up under that horn button - secured the mower's steering wheel to the bottom of the Hawk horn button - and created a HIGHLY modified Studebaker.[:0]:D
It was easier, cheaper and it makes cutting the lawn a bit less odious since I get to drive a Studebaker in the process.;)

Yes, I'm in a "time zone" all my own.:(Deal with it.

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe




1950 Champion business coupe

studebakerjeff
07-19-2007, 06:44 PM
So your driving a Studebaker lawnmower?


quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Take it from someone who's been "shown the light". I've got a horn button that I took from a '57 Silver Hawk. The Hawk was gonna be really expensive to restore as it was pretty rough. So, in a moment of inspriation, I simply drove a running, driving, 42" cut, riding lawn mower up under that horn button - secured the mower's steering wheel to the bottom of the Hawk horn button - and created a HIGHLY modified Studebaker.[:0]:D
It was easier, cheaper and it makes cutting the lawn a bit less odious since I get to drive a Studebaker in the process.;)

Yes, I'm in a "time zone" all my own.:(Deal with it.

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe




1950 Champion business coupe

DEEPNHOCK
07-19-2007, 06:58 PM
Why are you trying to start something with a post like this?
There are a lot of people with modified and custom Studes out there that have put a huge amount of time and money into, and a post like this is a slap at them.
C'mon...
Love a Stude for being a Stude and quit picking at nits.
Jeff[8D][8D]



quote:Originally posted by studebakerjeff

I see some people putting Chev engines in Studebaker,or diffrent sub-frame under it and trying to sell them as Studebakers. Instead of putting a Chev engine in,why don't they just buy a Chev with a chev engine. To me it takes alot of effort to restore a Studebaker back the way is was. On e-bay they should have a misc section just for that. Misc parts car.

1950 Champion business coupe


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DEEPNHOCK at Gmail.com
Brooklet, Georgia
'37 Coupe Express (never ending project)
'37 Coupe Express Trailer (project)
'61 Hawk (project)
http://community.webshots.com/user/deepnhock

DEEPNHOCK
07-19-2007, 06:58 PM
Why are you trying to start something with a post like this?
There are a lot of people with modified and custom Studes out there that have put a huge amount of time and money into, and a post like this is a slap at them.
C'mon...
Love a Stude for being a Stude and quit picking at nits.
Jeff[8D][8D]



quote:Originally posted by studebakerjeff

I see some people putting Chev engines in Studebaker,or diffrent sub-frame under it and trying to sell them as Studebakers. Instead of putting a Chev engine in,why don't they just buy a Chev with a chev engine. To me it takes alot of effort to restore a Studebaker back the way is was. On e-bay they should have a misc section just for that. Misc parts car.

1950 Champion business coupe


http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/Jeff%20Rice%20Studebaker%20Pictures/1937StudebakerCoupeExpressJeffRicee.jpg

DEEPNHOCK at Gmail.com
Brooklet, Georgia
'37 Coupe Express (never ending project)
'37 Coupe Express Trailer (project)
'61 Hawk (project)
http://community.webshots.com/user/deepnhock

N8N
07-19-2007, 07:03 PM
Hey, I actually HAVE driven a Studebaker lawn mower! I guess that would really be the first Stude I ever drove, and also the first one I ever worked on (helped my grandpa replace the starter when it stopped working)

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

N8N
07-19-2007, 07:03 PM
Hey, I actually HAVE driven a Studebaker lawn mower! I guess that would really be the first Stude I ever drove, and also the first one I ever worked on (helped my grandpa replace the starter when it stopped working)

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

gordr
07-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Biggs, I have a Studebaker steering wheel on my little old 5HP Massey riding mower. Really. It's a '57 Hawk wheel, I think, but it has the same splines as the steering column in the Massey.

Much easier maneuvering the mower with a big Stude wheel instead of the dinky little stock wheel. No horn button, though.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

gordr
07-19-2007, 07:37 PM
Biggs, I have a Studebaker steering wheel on my little old 5HP Massey riding mower. Really. It's a '57 Hawk wheel, I think, but it has the same splines as the steering column in the Massey.

Much easier maneuvering the mower with a big Stude wheel instead of the dinky little stock wheel. No horn button, though.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

Guido
07-19-2007, 08:11 PM
Studebaker did not make lawnmowers, but their Gravely subsidiary did. We had one at a summer camp I worked at in the early '70's. I also have an Onan generator built during the time Studebaker owned them (a $5.00 auction find :D).

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
07-19-2007, 08:11 PM
Studebaker did not make lawnmowers, but their Gravely subsidiary did. We had one at a summer camp I worked at in the early '70's. I also have an Onan generator built during the time Studebaker owned them (a $5.00 auction find :D).

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

53k
07-19-2007, 08:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

Studebaker did not make lawnmowers, but their Gravely subsidiary did. We had one at a summer camp I worked at in the early '70's. I also have an Onan generator built during the time Studebaker owned them (a $5.00 auction find :D).

I have three Gravely tractors- a 1962 Model L (two-wheel) that says Division of Studebaker-Packard on the serial plate, a 1972 Model 430 (12 hp four wheeler) that says Division of Studebaker on the control panel. It has an Onan engine which also says Division of Studebaker and a 1990 Model 20G (20 hp four wheel)- it doesn't mention its Studebaker heritage. I use these tractors not because of their Studebaker heritage, but because they are the safest small tractors I can buy. With their rear engine, cast iron transaxles, cast front axles and I-beam frames (four-wheel models), they have the lowest center of gravity of any small tractor. I regularly mow running along a 45-degree angle. I have to put my right foot on the outboard strut of my 60-inch mower, hang on to the steering wheel and bear down on the left wheel brake to do it. The 20G weighs a little over 1,000 pounds and the 60-inch deck weighs 350 pounds- no tin tractors for me. They are all gear driven- only belts are on the mower decks running the blades (the Model L 30" mower/bush hog is all gear driven). The two older tractors have two-speed transmissions with high and low ranges (total of four speeds forward and reverse). The '90 has four speeds and the high-low ranges (8 speeds total in both forward and reverse). The Ls had more than 70 accessory implements available at the peak of their popularity. My 430 has a rear lift for a plow, disc and harrow. The 20G also runs a 48-inch snow blower and a Quik-Way front end loader.
The Gravely-Studebaker connection goes way back before Studebaker bought them. In 1919 Mr. Gravely used to load his 1911 Studebaker touring car with Gravely motor plows and sell them door to door. When Studebaker bought them they moved Gravely from Dunbar, WV to Clemmons, NC to break the union. Unfortunately they also forced Gravely to discontinue the cast iron engine they built themselves in favor of the Onan line. My '62 Model L has an oil pump and a full-flow oil filter with a five-quart crankcase (one-cylinder engine). All other small engines (including Onan) were splash oilers.
Even sadder, Gravely no longer makes the two-wheel or four-wheel tractors. They have concentrated on high-end specialty mowers.


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

53k
07-19-2007, 08:44 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

Studebaker did not make lawnmowers, but their Gravely subsidiary did. We had one at a summer camp I worked at in the early '70's. I also have an Onan generator built during the time Studebaker owned them (a $5.00 auction find :D).

I have three Gravely tractors- a 1962 Model L (two-wheel) that says Division of Studebaker-Packard on the serial plate, a 1972 Model 430 (12 hp four wheeler) that says Division of Studebaker on the control panel. It has an Onan engine which also says Division of Studebaker and a 1990 Model 20G (20 hp four wheel)- it doesn't mention its Studebaker heritage. I use these tractors not because of their Studebaker heritage, but because they are the safest small tractors I can buy. With their rear engine, cast iron transaxles, cast front axles and I-beam frames (four-wheel models), they have the lowest center of gravity of any small tractor. I regularly mow running along a 45-degree angle. I have to put my right foot on the outboard strut of my 60-inch mower, hang on to the steering wheel and bear down on the left wheel brake to do it. The 20G weighs a little over 1,000 pounds and the 60-inch deck weighs 350 pounds- no tin tractors for me. They are all gear driven- only belts are on the mower decks running the blades (the Model L 30" mower/bush hog is all gear driven). The two older tractors have two-speed transmissions with high and low ranges (total of four speeds forward and reverse). The '90 has four speeds and the high-low ranges (8 speeds total in both forward and reverse). The Ls had more than 70 accessory implements available at the peak of their popularity. My 430 has a rear lift for a plow, disc and harrow. The 20G also runs a 48-inch snow blower and a Quik-Way front end loader.
The Gravely-Studebaker connection goes way back before Studebaker bought them. In 1919 Mr. Gravely used to load his 1911 Studebaker touring car with Gravely motor plows and sell them door to door. When Studebaker bought them they moved Gravely from Dunbar, WV to Clemmons, NC to break the union. Unfortunately they also forced Gravely to discontinue the cast iron engine they built themselves in favor of the Onan line. My '62 Model L has an oil pump and a full-flow oil filter with a five-quart crankcase (one-cylinder engine). All other small engines (including Onan) were splash oilers.
Even sadder, Gravely no longer makes the two-wheel or four-wheel tractors. They have concentrated on high-end specialty mowers.


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine

JDP
07-19-2007, 08:54 PM
I have a 425 Caddy in my Studebaker truck and it seems much happier then it was with the rod knocking, tired six, and so am I. My motivation was simple, I was looking at $1000 or so to fix up the flathead six, saw the Caddy for $500 and thought, what the hell, if Studebaker could use a 352 Packard, why not a 425 Caddy. :)

JDP/Maryland
64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
64 GT R2
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
07-19-2007, 08:54 PM
I have a 425 Caddy in my Studebaker truck and it seems much happier then it was with the rod knocking, tired six, and so am I. My motivation was simple, I was looking at $1000 or so to fix up the flathead six, saw the Caddy for $500 and thought, what the hell, if Studebaker could use a 352 Packard, why not a 425 Caddy. :)

JDP/Maryland
64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
64 GT R2
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

Roscomacaw
07-19-2007, 09:07 PM
So you bought the Caddy - bolted it right up to the T-86 - hooked up the hoses and off you went!:D Damn! NOW I'm "gettin' it"![}:)]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
07-19-2007, 09:07 PM
So you bought the Caddy - bolted it right up to the T-86 - hooked up the hoses and off you went!:D Damn! NOW I'm "gettin' it"![}:)]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

JDP
07-19-2007, 09:21 PM
Nope, but it was actually as easy as doing a Studebaker V8. The Caddy mounts only needed two plates bolted on the six cylinder pads, the rear mount on the TH400 was easier to do then finding a Studebaker V8 truck housing. The most expensive part of the swap was a $200 custom drive shaft. The Caddy is so close dimensionally to the Stude that it even looks right.

JDP/Maryland
64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
64 GT R2
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
07-19-2007, 09:21 PM
Nope, but it was actually as easy as doing a Studebaker V8. The Caddy mounts only needed two plates bolted on the six cylinder pads, the rear mount on the TH400 was easier to do then finding a Studebaker V8 truck housing. The most expensive part of the swap was a $200 custom drive shaft. The Caddy is so close dimensionally to the Stude that it even looks right.

JDP/Maryland
64 Daytona HT/R2 clone
64 GT R2
63 GT R2
63 Lark 2 door
59 3E truck
58 Starlight
52 & 53 Starliner
51 Commander

curt
07-19-2007, 11:03 PM
I have had posting times that are not corect, homeland security , hope not.

curt
07-19-2007, 11:03 PM
I have had posting times that are not corect, homeland security , hope not.

37CoupeE
07-20-2007, 02:54 AM
The debate of restoration or modifing ones vehicle will never please everyone.

I enjoy all types of vehicles and admire the amount of work that each takes whether stock or modified.

I have done a few restorations over the years with my 37 Coupe Express as the last one so far. Prior to doing that I had a modified 69 El Camino that I used to show and is now parked in my garage along with my first restoration, my high school car a 1950 Starlight Coupe.

A comment that was made to me at a show made me wonder. Someone said about my CE, "It's a nice truck but all you did was take apart what the factory did and rebuild it". Since I am only the second owner and did find a really complete CE it seemed logical to me to restore my truck. It was difficult to try and keep things close to original. I have learned that there is a discipline to learn when you restore a vehicle. If the truck had not been as complete as it was it might have gone in a different direction.

In 2000, I bought a 1937 Dictator Coupe. What I got was a stipped out body and running gear with no engine or trans and a GM rear axle. I wanted the car so I knew what I was getting. To restore this car while possible would be extremely difficult to find everything that is missing. My plans are already forming for this Coupe, I have a Jaguar rear axle with a Dana center unit, I plan on getting a Fatman front axle kit. Drive train will be a Studebaker 289 with a 4 speed setup out of a 62 GT Hawk.

At present I'm building a non-Stude street rod. This project started with a cab and box on a frame. The reason I'm doing this is to learn what it is like to have to plan an entire vehicle from the frame up not a restoration but a complete build.

The bottom line is both my 37 Coupe and present rod project are just that "projects". Most people would not even look at what I am starting with. But, cars are my hobby and I enjoy working on them. After a bad night at work, a couple of hours in the garage and everything is better. And when the time comes that they are done, it will be time to take them to the road and enjoy the fruits of my labor. Also at that time I will be able to say that I'm a restorer and a builder.

37CoupeE
07-20-2007, 02:54 AM
The debate of restoration or modifing ones vehicle will never please everyone.

I enjoy all types of vehicles and admire the amount of work that each takes whether stock or modified.

I have done a few restorations over the years with my 37 Coupe Express as the last one so far. Prior to doing that I had a modified 69 El Camino that I used to show and is now parked in my garage along with my first restoration, my high school car a 1950 Starlight Coupe.

A comment that was made to me at a show made me wonder. Someone said about my CE, "It's a nice truck but all you did was take apart what the factory did and rebuild it". Since I am only the second owner and did find a really complete CE it seemed logical to me to restore my truck. It was difficult to try and keep things close to original. I have learned that there is a discipline to learn when you restore a vehicle. If the truck had not been as complete as it was it might have gone in a different direction.

In 2000, I bought a 1937 Dictator Coupe. What I got was a stipped out body and running gear with no engine or trans and a GM rear axle. I wanted the car so I knew what I was getting. To restore this car while possible would be extremely difficult to find everything that is missing. My plans are already forming for this Coupe, I have a Jaguar rear axle with a Dana center unit, I plan on getting a Fatman front axle kit. Drive train will be a Studebaker 289 with a 4 speed setup out of a 62 GT Hawk.

At present I'm building a non-Stude street rod. This project started with a cab and box on a frame. The reason I'm doing this is to learn what it is like to have to plan an entire vehicle from the frame up not a restoration but a complete build.

The bottom line is both my 37 Coupe and present rod project are just that "projects". Most people would not even look at what I am starting with. But, cars are my hobby and I enjoy working on them. After a bad night at work, a couple of hours in the garage and everything is better. And when the time comes that they are done, it will be time to take them to the road and enjoy the fruits of my labor. Also at that time I will be able to say that I'm a restorer and a builder.

sumf
07-21-2007, 03:21 AM
quote:Originally posted by studegary

Here is another good example of how the posting times are in error on this forum. The response that I posted shows as being 49 minutes earlier than the post that I was responding to, yet other posts that I just made have the correct Central Time.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)


Ahem! "to which I was responding."

sumf
07-21-2007, 03:21 AM
quote:Originally posted by studegary

Here is another good example of how the posting times are in error on this forum. The response that I posted shows as being 49 minutes earlier than the post that I was responding to, yet other posts that I just made have the correct Central Time.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)


Ahem! "to which I was responding."

sumf
07-21-2007, 03:24 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

Hey, I actually HAVE driven a Studebaker lawn mower! I guess that would really be the first Stude I ever drove, and also the first one I ever worked on (helped my grandpa replace the starter when it stopped working)

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel


Gravely? Karl

sumf
07-21-2007, 03:24 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

Hey, I actually HAVE driven a Studebaker lawn mower! I guess that would really be the first Stude I ever drove, and also the first one I ever worked on (helped my grandpa replace the starter when it stopped working)

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel


Gravely? Karl